Jürgen Klopp Watch | "Man United had more penalties in two years than me in five and a half years"

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When you sack a coach in October (like they did with Rodgers) you have to get a new long-term solution immediately, so I am quite sure they were in contact with Klopp before sacking Rodgers and I agree that could have made that decision easier.

Some kind of "Hey man, what's up?" after he left Dortmund (or similar talk with his agent) is still quite possible (with the probable answer like "nothing for now, just taking my time off work, you got a nice club there I like it"). But I don't believe there was much more contact than this at the time, Rodgers had a contract until 2018 at that point, so I don't think that there was something planned like "Klopp will take over after a sabbatical for season 16/17".
Yes... I agree there...

Not sure, but isn't the rumors on managers waiting for a curtin job quite common these days. I'm not comfortable with this, and I guess our history with managers is a reson to that.
So many clubs do change managers easily, to easy if you ask me. For me it looks like the contact between managers agents, and clubs is quite frequent and ongoing over years.
 

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He is a great coach but the free ride he gets from the media for his results and his rants against pundits is astonishing. Even sir alex didn't get this much leeway if I remember correctly. When we finished 3rd in 04-05 season, some media started questioning sir alex and his management. Even Jose after winning 2 titles with chelsea in his first stint had media backlash when he had somewhat poor 3rd season where they finished 2nd and won two domestic trophies. May be wrong but even pep was questioned last season and in his first season. What's with Klopp and his escape of criticism. The only manager who I remember getting so much leeway for a long time was Wenger.
 

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He is a great coach but the free ride he gets from the media for his results and his rants against pundits is astonishing. Even sir alex didn't get this much leeway if I remember correctly. When we finished 3rd in 04-05 season, some media started questioning sir alex and his management. Even Jose after winning 2 titles with chelsea in his first stint had media backlash when he had somewhat poor 3rd season where they finished 2nd and won two domestic trophies. May be wrong but even pep was questioned last season and in his first season. What's with Klopp and his escape of criticism. The only manager who I remember getting so much leeway for a long time was Wenger.
The media is full of ex-Pool and afraid-of-Pool tw*ts.
 

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He is a great coach but the free ride he gets from the media for his results and his rants against pundits is astonishing. Even sir alex didn't get this much leeway if I remember correctly. When we finished 3rd in 04-05 season, some media started questioning sir alex and his management. Even Jose after winning 2 titles with chelsea in his first stint had media backlash when he had somewhat poor 3rd season where they finished 2nd and won two domestic trophies. May be wrong but even pep was questioned last season and in his first season. What's with Klopp and his escape of criticism. The only manager who I remember getting so much leeway for a long time was Wenger.
It's easy to see why, the way he improved Liverpool was just brilliant and for what he achieved with them he will escape criticism, especially when you don't see any dressing room fights.
 

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It's easy to see why, the way he improved Liverpool was just brilliant and for what he achieved with them he will escape criticism, especially when you don't see any dressing room fights.
I get that but then once you reach that success you should be judged according to that or try to remain competitive. Liverpool this season have been awful. From being champions to be this deserves criticism. Every manager I mentioned in my op took the team to great heights but yet got criticised when they even had one bad to average season.

Klopp had made some questionable decision this season so to say VVD's injury is the sole cause of their downfall is bs. Their play of style this season just stinks so it's not like they are playing some entertaining football and losing.

Ultimately one has to be questioned and I feel Klopp escapes that. And when I say criticism I don't ask for him to be sacked or question his achievement but one has to call spade a spade. When manager like sir alex or Pep didn't get free escape why should klopp is my point.
 

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I get that but then once you reach that success you should be judged according to that or try to remain competitive. Liverpool this season have been awful. From being champions to be this deserves criticism. Every manager I mentioned in my op took the team to great heights but yet got criticised when they even had one bad to average season.

Klopp had made some questionable decision this season so to say VVD's injury is the sole cause of their downfall is bs. Their play of style this season just stinks so it's not like they are playing some entertaining football and losing.

Ultimately one has to be questioned and I feel Klopp escapes that. And when I say criticism I don't ask for him to be sacked or question his achievement but one has to call spade a spade. When manager like sir alex or Pep didn't get free escape why should klopp is my point.
They got criticism because of how good the team was and how much they spent, it's all relative.

I'm not saying Klopp don't deserve criticism, it's easy to see why he didn't get, especially when he was the one who won league title for Liverpool after 30 years.

If I was Liverpool fan I wouldn't have criticised Klopp.
 

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They got criticism because of how good the team was and how much they spent, it's all relative.

I'm not saying Klopp don't deserve criticism, it's easy to see why he didn't get, especially when he was the one who won league title for Liverpool after 30 years.

If I was Liverpool fan I wouldn't have criticised Klopp.
Yeah I don't expect Liverpool fans to criticize the guy who won them their first PL. I was more of why media doesn't. Also, it's funny how last season some pundits were arguing this Liverpool side is one of the best in PL history but now they are again treated like underdogs.

Anyways I do see your point but still don't agree that he deserves this much leeway.
 

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His next presser will be spicy.

“United fans disrupted the flow of our season by getting the game cancelled”
"Because of United we now have to play 5 games in 15 days, no one has ever played that many games before in such a short period in the history"
"We felt life threatened with the United mob waiting for us outside the hotel, it was like a war zone"
"Gary Neville has blood on his hands. He was fist-bumping with the protestors, he was desperate to get this game cancelled because of his hate for Liverpool"
 

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More ammo for Klopp when we send out the reserves vs Leicester :drool:
The post-match presser with Klopp if our first XI beat the scouse after Ole chucks the Leicester game by playing the U23s would be glorious. :drool:
 

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We aren’t making top four anyways. A team that can’t beat Newcastle at home at the moment.
 

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"Playing in an empty Old Trafford disrupted our flow"
It sounds like he's trying to say its a disadvantage to United to play in a full fixture list like this, but it's obviously an advantage to Liverpool to have an away game without fans at OT, so the balance of the advantage is unknown.
 

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His comments on Oles team selection were fair enough
Pretty much every manager would have done the same, and fact is we were 1:1 when we subbed on Cavani and Rashford.

If James and Martial weren't injured, they would have started instead of Amad and Elanga.

The early comments on the Liverpool subreddit are pretty reasonable too

 

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Pretty much every manager would have done the same, and fact is we were 1:1 when we subbed on Cavani and Rashford.

If James and Martial weren't injured, they would have started instead of Amad and Elanga.

The early comments on the Liverpool subreddit are pretty reasonable too

I reckon the quality of those comments will deteriorate very quickly :lol:
 

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Fair play to Klopp, he's not deluded as his acolytes. The title race was settled a long time ago and Ole had little choice but to rotate and hope the best from youngsters.
 

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He is always totally against the congested schedule the Premier League comes up with. Not the first time he has used crime/criminal to describe it and he is right.
 

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Williams and Philips starting tomorrow. If Kabak misses the rest of the season then theyre truely fecked
 

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Well done to Klopp, he didn't pick easy choice of blaming others and even said he would have done the same.
Well isn't he blaming the FA with this statement? As he is doing for the whole season now (and at least partly rightfully so).
 

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Well isn't he blaming the FA with this statement? As he is doing for the whole season now (and at least partly rightfully so).
I don't know, that schedule was insane and he said it. He also said its their fault if they cant finish top 4, not anyone's. So he is taking that on him and the team.
 

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I mean, yes he was fair and reasonable, then he couldn’t help himself and ended it with this:
“We get more and more used to that things barely go in your favour or direction, we just accept it. That’s how it is.”
Poor Jurgen :(
 

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Fair play to an extent but he's backed into a corner as he's been banging on quite rightly about fixture congestion and Sky matches the whole time.
 

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I mean, yes he was fair and reasonable, then he couldn’t help himself and ended it with this:


Poor Jurgen :(
He also rightfully said it's their fault they won't be playing in the Champions League this season - not us for allegedly downing tools last night, not the Premier League for the stupid fixtures, but because of the silly points they've been dropping all over the place.

He had to draw the line somewhere in admitting culpability. :D
 

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Pretty much every manager would have done the same, and fact is we were 1:1 when we subbed on Cavani and Rashford.

If James and Martial weren't injured, they would have started instead of Amad and Elanga.

The early comments on the Liverpool subreddit are pretty reasonable too

Yet you had Chelsea fans on here calling the team selection "small-time and petty", and saying that United being allowed to have a game postponed with no punishment then throwing another game was fecked up.
 

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Yet you had Chelsea fans on here calling the team selection "small-time and petty", and saying that United being allowed to have a game postponed with no punishment then throwing another game was fecked up.
I expect they soon shut up when witnessing their line up and result yesterday.