Probably a loan move with an option to buy would be more realistic this summer.
No one would spend up to 40m and 350k wage on someone who does nothing on the pitch.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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No one would spend up to 40m and 350k wage on someone who does nothing on the pitch.
What shit player did Dortmund sell us? He’s atrocious
I sold all my Sancho stock. Thought he was a rolex, but he's cernucci.
Nihao, brother. Time to learn Chinese.
It's over.
Nihao, brother. Time to learn Chinese.
It's over.
Sancho and Garnacho from the left provided such better balance moving forward with Martial and Antony, with Bruno from behind.
And this was without Rashford. There's a clear difference of control and passing build up without Rashford, but decision making is still poor overall thanks to Antony. Wolves weren't the best either.
He was good in the first half and not as influential in the second but still had a very good chance and it was the correct decision using a run, etc.
If he moves abroad, he'll thrive as it's more tactical, slower, and less chaotic.
And this was without Rashford. There's a clear difference of control and passing build up without Rashford, but decision making is still poor overall thanks to Antony. Wolves weren't the best either.
He was good in the first half and not as influential in the second but still had a very good chance and it was the correct decision using a run, etc.
If he moves abroad, he'll thrive as it's more tactical, slower, and less chaotic.
Starting to look that way. Such a shame
Presumably Leverkusen would be happy to take him in p/exchange for Wirtz? Or Dortmund for Bellingham? He would tear it up in the Bundesliga again. I think if we wanted to get rid, we wouldn't have any shortage of buyers. Even Bayern would probably throw their hat into the ring.
As regards his wages, Jadon may be willing to cut his pay to become the player he once was at another club. I get that things aren't working out for the guy, but he seems like a good lad who isn't just here to collect a paycheck.
As regards his wages, Jadon may be willing to cut his pay to become the player he once was at another club. I get that things aren't working out for the guy, but he seems like a good lad who isn't just here to collect a paycheck.
He's a rolex. Very similar to the one I bought on Khaosan Road all those years ago.
If we're still here saying the same thing this time next year then maybe, but loads of players need to go long before Sancho does.
The thing is whenever I watched him for Dortmund I was never really impressed either. He is only useful with acres of space, I never saw him score an outrageous goal, lots of tap ins after a counter attack.
He isn’t doing things differently at utd imo. It’s a bit like Sterling, he scored a lot of goals for City because of the system but was he ever really the main influential creator like Bruno is for us? I don’t think so.
Lots of English players seem to be quite limited. That other great prospect Foden is also stalling. Grealish turns out isn’t all that special as we (and I) thought he was. I wouldn’t bank on Bellingham or Rice to become world beaters either at this rate.
He isn’t doing things differently at utd imo. It’s a bit like Sterling, he scored a lot of goals for City because of the system but was he ever really the main influential creator like Bruno is for us? I don’t think so.
Lots of English players seem to be quite limited. That other great prospect Foden is also stalling. Grealish turns out isn’t all that special as we (and I) thought he was. I wouldn’t bank on Bellingham or Rice to become world beaters either at this rate.
I think it's about time we gave up on this one.
We have Rashford, Antony and now Garnacho all showing more than him. Really hard to see how he has a future here if he wants to be starting every week.
We have Rashford, Antony and now Garnacho all showing more than him. Really hard to see how he has a future here if he wants to be starting every week.
This season has felt like more of the same from Sancho like last season. Some good moments, scored 5-6 goals but ultimately you'd expect much more from winger at United. There's obviously bunch of players that have to be sold before Jadon but it's not like he's not on the list either.
Anonymous again, it’s a real worry as can’t see any redeeming features that a standard premier league winger would show. Big pre season needed.
Had a good preseason last year that means nothing ,as games are all friendly affairs no intensity and nothing at stake suits sancho down to ground.
Though I agree very much with what you are saying, there are two big factors that influence that:
1) I dont agree with people saying we cant sell him on, he is probably one of if not the most valuable expendable players we have
2) As things stand Garnacho and Rashford are way ahead of him on the left and he hasnt been effective on the right...and we have Antony, Pellestri and the returnign Amad there.
Elanga is very much surplus to requirements in my opinion, but what does he bring in £10-20m maybe as a guess, Sancho I still think is somewhere around a £50m player...if you count the lazy but obvious likes of Newcastle as an example.
I could name 12+ players need to go above Sancho, so I agree, but in a summer where personally I believe we need to make six signings....and I dont buy into the vast vast majority of free transfers people keep mentioning, just speculating, but selling Sancho pretty much makes a negative spend out of Kim Man-Jae relase clause and Varane/Jae and Garnacho/Rashford looks to be more valuable than Lindlof as the option and Sancho as a third winger. We cant make all six signings without good funds incoming, which can be achieved with the number of players should be outgoing anyway, SAncho sale if there is interest, makes it far easier though, thats why it shoul dbe a consideration, lets be honest he has done little more than another fantastic winger was here in Sanchez in a similar timeframe
No club on the planet would pay more than £30m for him now.
Thing it's never as straight forward as that with transfers, the fact we might get £40 million for Sancho, doesn't then mean we can use that money to get another player in, we'll still owe Dortmund said amount on the books, and if we sell him now for less than half what we paid for him then it'll be reflected on our books. Plus we spent 2 years chasing this guy, and he has clearly had his issues, whether people sympathise or not it doesn't take away from the fact that this must have had a big impact on him.
Personally I want to see him next season with hopefully better players around him, and with him been injury free with a clear mind, if he's still crap then I'll be the first one to be calling for him to go this time next year.
Very good post, I agree with I with pretty every point.
He's so meek in everything he does. He reminds me of Van der Beek in that I think they both would struggle to kick a ball further than fifteen yards.
If that goal went in, it would be different
And if United sold everyone redcafe “gave up on” then we’d have about 6 players left
It’s not clicked yet, but I would give him a whole season with a pre season before making any final judgement
And if United sold everyone redcafe “gave up on” then we’d have about 6 players left
It’s not clicked yet, but I would give him a whole season with a pre season before making any final judgement
Sancho had three back to back seasons with +20 goals/assists by the time he was 21. The idea that he wasn't an influential creator for Dortmund is laughable. It hasn't workedout for him at United, but let's not write crazy things.
Also, United/United fans would do well by moving away from these notions of "main creator", all elite teams have multiple efficient attacking outlets
Sancho got a lot of playing time recently. more I watched him play, more sure am I that we just don’t know how to play him or don’t have the situation to figure it out. Maybe, we will never be able.
Hes had 2 seasons?
Garnacho should be prioritised ahead of him and we should also sign another wide player for RW (unless Amad comes into the squad).
We don’t have time to wait for him
Weghorst had 2 +20g/a seasons for Wolfsburg. Bundesliga stats mean feck all
Nobody said that he didnt have good stats, but the point the poster made r.e. the goals he scored and the defenses he was playing against is very valid. I watched him a lot back then. Quickest way to review is to see his Bundesliga goals in his final season.
I agree. He's been pretty poor considering his price tag. Pep had no problem letting him go. Maybe that should've been a warning sign. The biggest problem in my opinion, is that he lacks steel. If you're not a danger to the opponent, the least you can do is throw yourself into tackles and be aggressive. He is nothing like that. Never going all in in a duel. If everyone is fit, Sancho has no chance getting a place in the starting XI.
I don't know if it's a reading comprehension issue on this forum, but I often see people responding to entirely different things than the one being addressed - this being one of those instances. Clearly the point I'm contesting is the one regarding his influence at Dortmund. Regardless of what you think of the quality of the league, or quality of goals scored, to question the creative influence of a player that has THREE back to back seasons with +20 goals/assists is comical.
Bundesliga is an awful league with only 2 good teams max in it. Bayern have been winning the league there since 2012 non stop, that's what, 9 or 10 years in a row? Even PSG doesn't have that record in Ligue 1.
We should stop buying overhyped players from this awful league.
We should stop buying overhyped players from this awful league.
You're so passive aggressive with your replies and for no reason
Hugging his own players at the start and finish of the game and when he was subbed was the most work he put into the game.
Different only in the sense that'd it'd be something to allow the sycophants in the media to stay the verbal axes. And also for the more naive United fans to cling onto.
He was still shite for 80 minutes goal or no goal. Same as Martial.
I just don't see it in Sancho. Is he really a winger? He sure doesn't seem like it. I sometimes wonder what he would be like as a midfielder. I think there is a player there, I just don't think it's as a winger...
I stopped posting in this thread a few months ago when it started to feel like I had an agenda against the lad. I don't think he was too too bad today, more his usual uninvolved self. Still convinced we should give him next season to find something and decide after that. I think - more hope - he has the talent to succeed here, but he is still missing that spark. Hopefully it works out for him and us.
There was one moment in the game that I felt sums up his current malaise.
Someone did a play switch from the right to him with a high ball, the ball came slightly behind and he killed it dead and brought it infront of his body in one motion, top tier technique, then he proceeded to stare down his marker, faked a run and passed back.
It’s just mind boggling that a player with such sublime technical capacity can be so utterly bereft of any urgency, aggression or confidence in his game. On the other hand, you have Garnacho who miscontrols or get tackled plenty of times but keeps his head up and just try again and again and again until something comes off.
Someone did a play switch from the right to him with a high ball, the ball came slightly behind and he killed it dead and brought it infront of his body in one motion, top tier technique, then he proceeded to stare down his marker, faked a run and passed back.
It’s just mind boggling that a player with such sublime technical capacity can be so utterly bereft of any urgency, aggression or confidence in his game. On the other hand, you have Garnacho who miscontrols or get tackled plenty of times but keeps his head up and just try again and again and again until something comes off.
Is he slower than Bernardo Silva?
Know they overspend, but com eon Chelsea paid £35m for Mudeake, you really think nobody pays over £30m for Sancho despite his struggles, he has still been in and around the England squad and is still playing quite regularlyYes that's the thing with Garnacho. He's not that great technically, but he's so cocky and single-minded that it doesn't matter. He'll play the numbers game with the fullback until the end. Nightmare to defend against relentless players like that.
Sancho, on the other hand, is a piece of piss to play against. One hard tackle on him, and you won't have to worry about him for the rest of the game.
All the bloody trouble we went to because people at the club were so set on him and he just looks lost.
Needs to be given one more season with a focus on transforming him into a pure #10 and if that fails, move him on for whatever we can get.
Again, terrible, terrible management by the football brains, giving a player a contract that large means the likelihood of being able to recoup much of a fee is very low
Again, terrible, terrible management by the football brains, giving a player a contract that large means the likelihood of being able to recoup much of a fee is very low
The sad thing is that we can't even string one single purple patch out of him like we did for Lingard.
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