A lot of people just have agendas and twist the narrative to suit that agenda.
Jamie Carragher: Spits in the face of 14 year old girl | Suspended by Sky
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He should be sacked. Absolutely disgusting behaviour.
@Berbaclass
Theres only one side of this twisting facts to suit narratives now, lets be honest.
Didn't you say he was aiming at the driver but the wind bent it away?
Good stuff.
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Theres only one side of this twisting facts to suit narratives now, lets be honest.
Didn't you say he was aiming at the driver but the wind bent it away?
Good stuff.
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What is Jeremy Kyle?
You don't think he violated any employment contract about acceptable behaviour in this instance?
Please be so kind as to explain how I’m twisting facts.
So after a bit of jovial banter Carragher fails to respond with that famous Scouse wit we are so regularly reminded about ........ Its never their fault !!!!
Possibly. You can say the same for Kirsty Gallacher though can’t you?
Alot of people saying Jamie should keep his job. Wonder if they would say the same if it was their daughter, albeit most are likely to not be cnuts like the dad in this example. If there was some altercation between myself and any of the pundits, and it escalated to him spitting in the face of my minor daughter. I would expect his company to fire him.
I don't see any way Sky could let this slide.
Personally think he should lose his job, pay a VERY hefty fine, donated to charity. Alongside damages to the girl. Should also publically apologies. Should definitely have to undergo some form of rehabilitation, anger management seems suitable.
Father should face action for driving violation too.
I don't see any way Sky could let this slide.
Personally think he should lose his job, pay a VERY hefty fine, donated to charity. Alongside damages to the girl. Should also publically apologies. Should definitely have to undergo some form of rehabilitation, anger management seems suitable.
Father should face action for driving violation too.
Seems like a story full of bellends. Apart from the poor girl stuck between the two bellends.
Strong poll, lacks E)boue, for shame.
That’s clearly what happened is it not?
Ooer.
Someone on Talksport, who's from Merseyside, said they'd read in the Liverpool Echo that he's been done on two separate occasions for road rage. Man's got issues I suppose.
Ahh that's rubbish.
Most on here respect Carra as a pundit and appreciate his level knowledge within the game, myself included, to claim there is some twisted agenda against him is just stupid and a blatant copout.
After seeing his interview I agree with this. I don't think he deserves to be sacked but he will likely be on a final warning as to his future conduct.
There's two questions here. What is the suitable punishment for what he did? It's technically assault, but not particularly serious - slap on the wrist would seem appropriate - in other circumstances you might expect to get lamped by the poor girl's father.
The other, separate, question is, what should Sky do? They have far more to consider than dishing out suitable punishment/retribution here. They're a broadcaster and he's one of their headline talents, and, along with Neville, the face of their premier sports show. Given the opprobrium, it is difficult to see how they can return him to our screens - they have a brand to protect. Although it might strike many of us as overly harsh, dispensing with his services probably what they should do.
Would people react the same if this was Gary Neville? I don’t think so.
@Berbaclass
I see a man aiming through an open window with a girl he admitted seeing sitting there. The point is he wasn't thinking.
But hey, wind trajectory and all that.
Is this not twisting a story versus taking the video as it is?
I see a man aiming through an open window with a girl he admitted seeing sitting there. The point is he wasn't thinking.
But hey, wind trajectory and all that.
Is this not twisting a story versus taking the video as it is?
. Damn thats so true.The girl have reminding his dad for the whole time to stop doing that stupid thing but he ignored her. She seems upset and rightly so. If i was that little girl i will smash that phone to his dad face for being bellend. His sound at the end of video sounds so cocky.
If he's back, I'd love the big story of the first week for him to cover would be another on pitch spitting incidence.
He was an idiot for doing what he did, but I think that punishment is a bit too much and it sucks cause he is the only pundit there who speaks sense.
On the topic of sacking; if a delivery driver or Lorry driver was caught doing that on camera they’d be sacked because they’re representing the company as well as themselves
Wouldn’t be surprised to see him sacked. That being said I’d say it’s slightly unfair especially if the guy goading him gets away without consequence
Wouldn’t be surprised to see him sacked. That being said I’d say it’s slightly unfair especially if the guy goading him gets away without consequence
Enjoy.
Apology, some community work or donation to a charity and some time off TV or something like that.
If you saw such a video of a regular person you don’t know, sure you’d think what a vile creature but your reaction definitely wouldn’t be “that man has to lose his job!”.
I wouldn’t care if they do sack him fwiw, just saying that I think some on here on overreacting.
Sky are cnuts. What are they getting out of doing this?
I think you’re misunderstanding me. I’m simply taking exception to people insinuating that he deliberately spat at the young girl. Which is clearly not the case.
How is it unreasonable of me to suggest that based on what we have seen. He looks directly at the guy who is driving and spits at him. This narrative that “He spat at a 14 year old girl” is not correct because to me that implies intent.
People seem to be bypassing this. Spitting at people is disgusting of course I’m not defending that.
I don't think he should get the sack now.
What I meant is he is wrong to react. Spitting at someone (not just sensationalized teen) should be condemned even if there is provocation involved. However, it's not like he's doing this on his job. Sure he would lose plenty of fan, but until we know the stats, losing him just make Sky punditry significantly worse. He is one the bearable in this shite show of punditry world.
What I meant is he is wrong to react. Spitting at someone (not just sensationalized teen) should be condemned even if there is provocation involved. However, it's not like he's doing this on his job. Sure he would lose plenty of fan, but until we know the stats, losing him just make Sky punditry significantly worse. He is one the bearable in this shite show of punditry world.
Do you think you would keep yoir Job if you spat at someone at work?
Yes, he wasnt at work, but he is a public figure, and is accountable to different standards to the rest of us.
This is what happened.
He is basically lying through his teeth. He was fully aware that the guys daughter was in the car, yet preceded to spit in the general direction to which she was sitting.
A suspension is fair punishment. Regardless of what was said you can’t go reacting that way. The one thing I do sympathize with him is everyone reads the headlines or watches 20 seconds of a video and assumes they know the full story. The way the headline reads in nearly every article is like he spit on a 14 year old girl which clearly isn’t the case.
I'd probably have sworn (feck off ya' cnut) in the heat the moment but I don't think spitting would ever cross my mind.
Lol of course they would.
Worlds gone mad if he avoids a caution by the police for this
Watched the video. Absolutely disgusting behavior, and the guy was just having a friendly banter (he didn't even insult him or anything). Still, Carragher is a good pundit and he should get a heavy fine for this, but getting sacked over a spit seems a tad too much.
But that's with them doing it on the job with company property, vehicle, uniform... being displayed. Carragher is off job.
Yep, she was the only one who behaved like an actual adult.
Put it this way, I worship the ground Eric Cantona walks on, I'd willingly lose my anal virginity to him and bare his children should he request as much, but if I found out he pulled a stunt like this I'd disassociate myself with him, or any United player for that matter.
Spitting at someone is absolute filth.
I get what you’re saying but I don’t think there’s any way of knowing if he saw her or not at the time if the incident. It’s all hearsay. From what I remember she’s not visible in the video and would be reasonable to assume that he saw the video before making a comment to the newspaper.
I’m talking strictly about the reaction on this forum. Not the general reaction.
I think more people are inclined to be unbalanced in this discussion due to the perpetrator being Jamie Carragher.
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