Jermaine Jenas in line to replace Gary Lineker - Ian Wright leaving MOTD

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Can someone shed some light on why Jackass Morgan is on Lineker's side? I always assumed that the Ronaldo fancying, dead schoolgirl's phone hacking bellend was the Toriest of all the Tories.
I think, like Clarkson, he wants to take aim at the BBC rather than defend refugees.
 

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There is no issue with him having an opinion, but you are working for a government funded broadcaster. Promoting a strong political view either way whilst being paid by the organisation is clearly a conflict of interests, in some cases it could even be considered corruption. If he is so moral, skip the pay and truly use your platform to promote your view uninhibited.
What could he say about the government’s new policy on refugees that wouldn’t be considered a “strong political view either way”? That’s the madness here. Everything is so polarised it’s not possible to express an opinion on something like that without being accused of supporting one side or the other.

And is it reasonable for the BBC to ask its employees to never use their private social media to share their opinion on a topic like this? Because that seems to be the only way to actually be impartial.
 

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Can someone shed some light on why Jackass Morgan is on Lineker's side? I always assumed that the Ronaldo fancying, dead schoolgirl's phone hacking bellend was the Toriest of all the Tories.
He’s a colossal bellend but I don’t think even he’s a Tory. He was hugely anti-Johnson and Hancock et al and was a big advocate of new Labour at the mirror. Plus he’s anti-cancel culture etc.
 

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There is no issue with him having an opinion, but you are working for a government funded broadcaster. Promoting a strong political view either way whilst being paid by the organisation is clearly a conflict of interests, in some cases it could even be considered corruption. If he is so moral, skip the pay and truly use your platform to promote your view uninhibited.
So why was he allowed to promote a particular opinion on Qatar during the world cup? Why was Neil allowed to write for the spectator while working for the BBC? Why was Clarkson allowed to carry on doing his other journalistic work while working on top gear (unless someone corrects me)?
 

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Can someone shed some light on why Jackass Morgan is on Lineker's side? I always assumed that the Ronaldo fancying, dead schoolgirl's phone hacking bellend was the Toriest of all the Tories.
He was really good mates with Gordon Brown, ran the only labour tabloid, was massively for gun control in the USA, probably the biggest and one of the outspoken critics of the Tories during COVID. Politically he’s Labour other than during the Corbyn era.

Not all bellends are Tories.

Fyi fairly certain he isn’t linked to phone hacking and has threatened legal action regarding it
 

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Of course vast numbers will disagree with the policy and that’s fine but that really isn’t the issue it’s the suggestion that it’s akin to the holocaust that’s the bigger issue
 

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So why was he allowed to promote a particular opinion on Qatar during the world cup? Why was Neil allowed to write for the spectator while working for the BBC? Why was Clarkson allowed to carry on doing his other journalistic work while working on top gear (unless someone corrects me)?
I guess that’s because he’s not commenting on the politics of the state that employs him.

I have no answer to your other questions.
 

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So why was he allowed to promote a particular opinion on Qatar during the world cup? Why was Neil allowed to write for the spectator while working for the BBC? Why was Clarkson allowed to carry on doing his other journalistic work while working on top gear (unless someone corrects me)?
Sorry but that is ignoring what GL was inferring
 

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He was really good mates with Gordon Brown, ran the only labour tabloid, was massively for gun control in the USA, probably the biggest and one of the outspoken critics of the Tories during COVID. Politically he’s Labour other than during the Corbyn era.

Not all bellends are Tories.
He was also a vocal supporter of Donald Trump.
 

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Of course vast numbers will disagree with the policy and that’s fine but that really isn’t the issue it’s the suggestion that it’s akin to the holocaust that’s the bigger issue
He never once referenced the holocaust.

1930s Germany doesn't just mean holocaust.
 

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As soon as they let him present the show in his underpants they were never going to be able to keep him grounded. Dickarus.
 

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Henry Winter suggesting that (at least some) players won't do post match broadcast duties with the BBC tomorrow and are being backed up by the PFA as they'll face fines for not doing them
 

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Always found the idea of bbc dumb anyways, you never can be really impartial to begin with and for such a establishment to be funded by the public creates all sorts of dilemmas, it's a miracle it's lasted this long.
 

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He never once referenced the holocaust.

1930s Germany doesn't just mean holocaust.
Technically speaking, the Final Solution didn’t start until 1941, so ‘1930s Germany’ actually can’t refer to the Holocaust at all.

Lineker was comparing the dehumanising language being used by government ministers like Braverman to the language used in relation to Jewish people in 1930s Germany. This may or may not be an accurate assessment, but considering an actual Holocaust survivor made the exact same point to Braverman’s face just a few weeks ago, at the very least it’s debatable.
 

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There is no issue with him having an opinion, but you are working for a government funded broadcaster. Promoting a strong political view either way whilst being paid by the organisation is clearly a conflict of interests, in some cases it could even be considered corruption. If he is so moral, skip the pay and truly use your platform to promote your view uninhibited.
Bollocks.

No one said that about BBC presenter Alan Sugar and his tweets on election day.
 

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Of course vast numbers will disagree with the policy and that’s fine but that really isn’t the issue it’s the suggestion that it’s akin to the holocaust that’s the bigger issue
Only you have said that.

Lineker said the language used was similar to Germany in the 30s which is historically correct.
 

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He said that the language used was reminiscent of the language used in 1930's Germany. The dehumanization of the other so that you can then justify cruel and inhumane treatment. He was correct, it takes no time at all to research the rhetoric of the era and if you substitute asylum seekers for the targets of the Nazi rhetoric it sounds the same. People constantly clutching their pearls and crying "how dare you compare" are generally the ones who would have signed their kids up for the Hitler Youth at the first opportunity.
 

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Of course vast numbers will disagree with the policy and that’s fine but that really isn’t the issue it’s the suggestion that it’s akin to the holocaust that’s the bigger issue
He never suggested that. The Tories did that because it's their standard deflection tactic. They can't argue the point so they make something up.

He said that her language - dehumanising her targets - was exactly like the language used in 1930s Germany. He's not wrong.
 

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Technically speaking, the Final Solution didn’t start until 1941, so ‘1930s Germany’ actually can’t refer to the Holocaust at all.

Lineker was comparing the dehumanising language being used by government ministers like Braverman to the language used in relation to Jewish people in 1930s Germany. This may or may not be an accurate assessment, but considering an actual Holocaust survivor made the exact same point to Braverman’s face just a few weeks ago, at the very least it’s debatable.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/german-jews-during-the-holocaust
 

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So this is how the BBC + License fee ends? With a former England international player who shat his pants on the field, how poetic
 

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So you're say 15 years ago people on the 'left' were saying we should be able to criticise government policy and people on the right were trying to stop that? Isn't that exactly what's happening now?
In this instance, absolutely (as I said in my follow up post).

I was replying to a comment which said that most free speech advocacy occurs on the "right", and pointing out that at different times in recent history it has been the "left" championing free speech because at those times it was the "left" being censored.
 

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Maybe if linekar loaned rishi £8million this may subside.