Pickle85
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Calm down pet, you're an expat I hear! Just be grateful you're not subjected to it.Ever tried the volume/mute button?
Calm down pet, you're an expat I hear! Just be grateful you're not subjected to it.Ever tried the volume/mute button?
Really? You never mention it.
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Expat is a moronic term for immigrant. Why should I be subjected to it?Calm down pet, you're an expat I hear! Just be grateful you're not subjected to it.
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Yeah, I agree. Lineker has always come across as a sanctimonious pr*ck.He has the personality of a sample of beige paint.
Have you been drinking? What exactly about expat is factually incorrect? I honestly don't know why you're losing your rag over this. Have a bubblebath or something.Expat is a moronic term for immigrant. Why should I be subjected to it?
Careful with that continental wine, Paul.Ever tried the volume/mute button?
God I hope you're being sarcastic in responding to a 3 year old comment.Yeah, I agree. Lineker has always come across as a sanctimonious pr*ck.
I'm losing my rag? - never been drunk in my life. Where's the mute button?Have you been drinking? What exactly about expat is factually incorrect? I honestly don't know why you're losing your rag over this. Have a bubblebath or something.
Expat is what we call ourselves when we move out of country. It's 100% not a term for an immigrant.Expat is a moronic term for immigrant. Why should I be subjected to it?
Mute button?! What are you rambling on about. Leave me alone and bother someone else, there's a good chap.I'm losing my rag? - never been drunk in my life. Where's the mute button?
Which continent would that be?Careful with that continental wine, Paul.
Well it certainly opened Pandora's vaginal canal.As soon as they let him present the show in his underpants they were never going to be able to keep him grounded. Dickarus.
You can call yourself what you like. But don't call me an expat.Expat is what we call ourselves when we move out of country. It's 100% not a term for an immigrant.
Believe me, from somebody that lived in Spain for 6 years as a teenager, learned the language and had a bunch of native friends, even the people that hate us being there they definitely do not call us expats as their insult of choice.
You're in a right pickle. I don't think it was me who started it.Mute button?! What are you rambling on about. Leave me alone and bother someone else, there's a good chap.
If taken literally Expat means someone who leaves the country temporarily to live in another country for a while ,an immigrant is someone who has moved to another country permanently and is thus an immigrant in the country where that person now lives.Since when is Expat an offensive term?
Which continent would that be?
I think, as you've indicated with your air quotes, it's pretty difficult to talk about this stuff using general labels like "left" and "right" without sounding like you're generalising massively. My experience, and what I think the op meant, was that media and people who describe themselves as right-wing tend to talk about freedom, and especially freedom of speech, as one of their core values. They tend to very loudly criticise 'woke' people when they talk about racism, sexism, homophobia as infringing on their rights to free speech, and this is where most accusations of 'cancelling' tend to come from. At the same time it seems to mainly be politicians aligned with these opinions - the conservatives or republicans - who push for the banning of people saying certain opinions.In this instance, absolutely (as I said in my follow up post).
I was replying to a comment which said that most free speech advocacy occurs on the "right", and pointing out that at different times in recent history it has been the "left" championing free speech because at those times it was the "left" being censored.
You come across insane in the last few pages.If taken literally Expat means someone who leaves the country temporarily to live in another country for a while ,an immigrant is someone who has moved to another country permanently and is thus an immigrant in the country where that person now lives.
You didn't have to reply to my post but unfortunately you did. Shame.
Agree and agreeOf course, left-wing and centrist people also use the language of free speech, but within the right-wing sphere there is a particular logical inconsistency showing, which is worth noticing.
Oh dear, are you literally taking all this to heart? I’m an expat/ immigrant or whatever, it’s not offensive, just a statement of fact. Take a time out, you need it…If taken literally Expat means someone who leaves the country temporarily to live in another country for a while ,an immigrant is someone who has moved to another country permanently and is thus an immigrant in the country where that person now lives.
I made a post and all sorts of people began making remarks, not about the post but who I am. Smilies and sarcastic comments.And I'm the one who's insane because I replied back.You come across insane in the last few pages.
It commonly just means someone who lives outside their native country. I've never ever seen anyone offended at the term
I suddenly feel very sorry for FranceI made a post and all sorts of people began making remarks, not about the post but who I am. Smilies and sarcastic comments.And I'm the one who's insane because I replied back.
Can I call you anything I want? Oh go on.
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I can certainly provide examples of the bolded from places other than the UK. I agree with your analysis of the current way the right wing (I'm going to drop the air quotes now that I know we're both on the same page in terms of how counterproductive those labels are) free speech arguments are often logically inconsistent. I think any view of history makes clear that those logically inconsistent arguments around free speech are not exclusive to either end of the political spectrum.I think, as you've indicated with your air quotes, it's pretty difficult to talk about this stuff using general labels like "left" and "right" without sounding like you're generalising massively. My experience, and what I think the op meant, was that media and people who describe themselves as right-wing tend to talk about freedom, and especially freedom of speech, as one of their core values. They tend to very loudly criticise 'woke' people when they talk about racism, sexism, homophobia as infringing on their rights to free speech, and this is where most accusations of 'cancelling' tend to come from. At the same time it seems to mainly be politicians aligned with these opinions - the conservatives or republicans - who push for the banning of people saying certain opinions.
Of course, left-wing and centrist people also use the language of free speech, but within the right-wing sphere there is a particular logical inconsistency showing, which is worth noticing.
I am not aware of a labour-led government vilifying a conservative party leader or removing conservative voices from the BBC programme. So it doesn't seem fair to compare their use of the language of freedom of speech to that of conservatives.
ThisThis is even about the tweet. This is about the beeb bending to political pressure from the government. That’s unacceptable.
Bored every neighbour to tears.I suddenly feel very sorry for France
Yeah they're too close to England.I suddenly feel very sorry for France
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Editors, producers etc next?
"Footballers should stay out of politics" will be the response from the political party currently trying to set up a new way to govern football in England.Tweet
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Bored every neighbour to tears.
Of course they will, they know that footballers are more popular than they are!"Footballers should stay out of politics" will be the response from the political party currently trying to set up a new way to govern football in England.