I don't care if that quote is true or not, I still have never wanted us to as rid of a player as much as this big ego, low skilled beans beans beans player, absolute trash from start to finish for us yet he's still somehow hanging around stealing a wage. Criminal he's been allowed to remain at the club this long
Jesse Lingard 'to leave on a free'
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The 12 million is just like add-ons. If he helps keeps them up you pay us 12 million and if relegated you don’t pay. I don’t see the issue. Are they not the richest club in the world? Pay up
Newcastle getting a taste of what its going to be like
a deal is gonna happen here, because everyone wants it.. don't blame the club for trying to get the most out of them one bit
a deal is gonna happen here, because everyone wants it.. don't blame the club for trying to get the most out of them one bit
The club gets a few million that they won't get if Lingard leaves on a free on June 30th. I'm not acting like he's done the club a favour. I'm saying that he's been with the club since he was 7 years old. He has been here long enough for them not to be arseholes and to act in a fair manner. If he wasn't at the required level, the club should have sold him, then. I said the club should act fairly and let him leave for a fair amount. Asking for around £15m for a player that's leaving us in 5 months is ridiculous. We're not asking any other club for that.
It doesn't matter what we do. Newcastle are going to rise towards the top of the league within a few seasons. Even without Lingard, they will most likely stay up with the signings they'll likely make over the next few days.
Okay. I want players that want to leave out of the club. They're most likely the one's that keep leaking shit and keeping the drama surrounding the club flowing everyday. It's not like they're even wanted. They don't start. They only occasionally get subbed in. Those minutes could go to some younger players. Take the money you can for them and let them leave. I said the same about Martial. I say the same about VDB, Henderson, and any other player that wants to go. Let them leave if they're not playing. We free up the wage bill. Some of the toxicity and negativity will hopefully leave with them. With the money saved in wages, I hope that means the club will bring in someone that will actually play.
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A few million does us nothing. And if Lingard didn't want the club to be act like "assholes", then he shouldn't have acted like one in the first place. He knew he wasn't going to get any gametime this season, yet he decided to wait and collect his paycheck before getting another big paycheck, refusing to sign a contract and thus depriving the club of a transfer fee for him. And as far as our asking price, I don't see how it is unreasonable. For one, Newcastle aren't just any other club, they're flushed with cash. It's only fair that United tax them for it, just like how United are taxed for every player under the sun. Second, Lingard is easily good enough to save them from relegation which is far more vital to Newcastle than a measly 15 million which they can wipe their ass with.
It's a great deal for them, and for Lingard himself. If they don't want it, who cares? We're not winning anything from this whichever way it goes.
Yeah, but you would agree that there is no need for us to accelerate their rise, right?
I agree with us holding for more money - Newcastle have enough funds ; Woods for 25 million! But I'd settle for a bit less than what the article states and send Jesse on his way.
I don't blame the club for asking for 12M survival bonus from Newcastle, this is a good approach to send a message across the market, where the club will not be taken advantage of, if you want a player from MUFC, then pay up or forget it, the club can afford Jessi's wages for 100 years and its not a big deal paying Jessi wages until his contract expires, but if Newcastle want Jessi now while he is under contract, then they gotta pay up, and as for Lingard, instead of being childish, he should do his best to convince Newcastle to accept the club's demands.
Newcastle asked 50M for Sean Longstaff. feck them.
We're treating Lingard like shit. There was no huge fee for Martial they just had to cover his wages, the same will be true for Donny.
Feck them? More like thank them.
I guess the intention is to keep them. Martial could well find himself in the thick of things next season when Cavani is gone and what Ronaldo does if we fail to get top 4. Jesse doesn't have a contract beyond this season.
Agreed, it was a blessing in disguise. Imagine they asked for 25-35M and the club went ahead with it.
We’re trying to get some unwarranted money on Jesse like we’ve paid for so many of our players. I see no harm in that. Worst case, we lose the 2.5 million loan fee plus his wages being covered. I have absolutely no problem with the club trying to take someone to the cleaners.
As for Jesse, he should realize that he’s one of those players who’s performance hardly entitles him a quarter of what he’s paid. If the club is trying to earn some of it back, we’re more than within our right. If not, his time to fight for an exit has long gone so he has no option but to suck it.
As for Jesse, he should realize that he’s one of those players who’s performance hardly entitles him a quarter of what he’s paid. If the club is trying to earn some of it back, we’re more than within our right. If not, his time to fight for an exit has long gone so he has no option but to suck it.
He wasn't though mate he only made 3 appearances for United last season 2 starts in the cups and a sub appearance in the cup then he was loaned out. And this after barely playing him the season before once Bruno arrived, it was obvious Lingard wasn't at all in Solksjaer's plans.
''Pointless''
My thoughts on the majority of Lingard's performances for United over the last 4 years.
Exactly, for Martial, VdB, or anyone else under contract with the club beyond the summer, the club can be bit lenient, but if you see Martial's loan, the club insisted on full wages pay but gave up on a loan fee, the same for Tuanzebe with Villa & Napoli in terms of wages, both clubs also paid a loan fee, for VdB, I am certain the club will demand from CP to pay full wages.
for Lingard, the club is losing him for nothing in the summer, so why would the club let any other club benefit from Lingard's services without compensation?!!
On twitter, I keep twitter posts saying.. let Jess go, United being unfair.
Firstly, we get criticised for letting players go too cheap, on the other hand when we hardball, we get criticised by the same fans.
Jesse Lingard does not want to go to Newcastle on a permanent because he wants to go into the summer window to chose from clubs and pick one that will pay him the most in terms of wages and signing on fee, he is looking after himself.
Why should Manchester United look out for Lingard over themselves? why would we loan him? to save on wages? the club isn't short £5m.
Martial wanted out, he found a club and got the Sevilla to put the right offer in.
We have twats like Mark Goldbrige in this fan base that moan moan moan all day all night about this.
Firstly, we get criticised for letting players go too cheap, on the other hand when we hardball, we get criticised by the same fans.
Jesse Lingard does not want to go to Newcastle on a permanent because he wants to go into the summer window to chose from clubs and pick one that will pay him the most in terms of wages and signing on fee, he is looking after himself.
Why should Manchester United look out for Lingard over themselves? why would we loan him? to save on wages? the club isn't short £5m.
Martial wanted out, he found a club and got the Sevilla to put the right offer in.
We have twats like Mark Goldbrige in this fan base that moan moan moan all day all night about this.
Love how we’re weeding out the players with a weak mentality. If this is all it took for Lingard and Martial to throw their toys out the pram in public then good riddance.
I couldn't really give a toss about this one either way. Jessie seemed like a nice enough lad, but should have forced his way out in the summer if he was really that bothered about playing.
Did he think bringing in Sancho and Ronaldo was going to make his chances of forcing his way into the forward line any easier? Come on.
The Martial comparisons are daft, we won't lose him on a free at the end of the season. If Jessie wants to go to F.C Bone Saw, they're going to have to spend some of their blood money.
Did he think bringing in Sancho and Ronaldo was going to make his chances of forcing his way into the forward line any easier? Come on.
The Martial comparisons are daft, we won't lose him on a free at the end of the season. If Jessie wants to go to F.C Bone Saw, they're going to have to spend some of their blood money.
The message makes no sense since he's walking on a free in a few months.
The message is simple, pay up or go somewhere else, clubs usually rinse the club with their high demands, it is only fair and normal the club does the same and get as much money as possible from players under contract with the club, yes he goes on a free in few months, but in those few months, the club has every right to demand what they think is a fair compensation
We are, aren't we? Paying him big money for doing nothing? So he can party with his friends in Dubai. Poor Lingard.
If he wants out and Newcastle are not far off, he just need to dig in his own pockets and pay some of the transfer fee.
Martial is still under contract at United, the loan to Sevilla can add value to his transfer fee.
I don't know why everyone is feeling sorry for Lingard, he doesn't want to go Newcastle on a permanent, wants a loan only. What purpose does it serve to Manutd loaning him for 6 months then he is out of contract?
Secondly, he is desperate to leave but went on holiday to Dubai instead of staying and working for a move? Its not up to the club to find potential suitors for him, its up to him and his agent.
Also, why would we loan him to West Ham or Spurs ? Oh lets look after Jesse, who will leave us on a free over the club?
Let’s loan him to Burnley and ask only for wages to be covered.
I said it in the other thread but I don’t understand the rationale for keeping him for the sake of a few million.
Why not just make the relegation bonus £8m, with a loan fee of £4m and let him go?
They’re going to cover 100% of his wages and we pocket something between 4-12m for a player who’s leaving anyway in 5 months. Keeping him here to take a spot on the bench/reserves helps no one.
Why not just make the relegation bonus £8m, with a loan fee of £4m and let him go?
They’re going to cover 100% of his wages and we pocket something between 4-12m for a player who’s leaving anyway in 5 months. Keeping him here to take a spot on the bench/reserves helps no one.
For a few seasons Jesse Lingard was our best player ..' without the ball'. His cross field diagonal runs, his darting and breaking-in between the lines, created space and distractions for those around him, but much of which was never really made to pay. However he was never quite that effective with the ball at his feet, but he had some standout moments... should have stayed at West Ham.
If its true, Good Luck and thanks for the memories Jesse.
If its true, Good Luck and thanks for the memories Jesse.
Chill. You obsessed with him or something? All of your recent posts are about Lingard. A bit weird. He hasnt done anything wrong so no need for this
Yup, That’s basically Lingard during most of his time here.
He can feel free to behave unprofessionally. It reduces the risk of the club doing something stupid like offering him an extension.
Yeah but the other club just has to wait six months. It's a very hollow threat.
When your player has six months left on their contract you've already lost. No amount of huffing and puffing is going to change that.
Newcastle carry the risk of relegation in the next few months, Lingard might be a very good player for them to have in relegation fight (he did very well with hammers last year), United is taking advantage of their desperation, and staying up is worth a lot especially to Newcastle who currently got an uber rich and ambitious new owners.
Or Lindgard could agree to a lower wage and that way the deal could get done. But that greedy little ....'s only ability is to complain.
I have no issue with the club playing hardball with richest club in the world Newcastle here, they can easily afford this. In every negotiation they enter from now on paying 25M for Chris Wood is going to keep cropping up in the conversation. Would not be surprised if all the other EPL clubs have discussed this and agreed to ride them bareback for all they can over the next few years. Just imagine them calling Daniel Levy 
I love how everyone knows exactly what Lingard is thinking. I mean you all know right? You’re not just making assumptions up?
best case is find a compromise and let him go. Best all round. Im really sick of the moaning from our fans, it’ll be worse if he’s still here until summer.
best case is find a compromise and let him go. Best all round. Im really sick of the moaning from our fans, it’ll be worse if he’s still here until summer.
That's infuriating35 goals bitches!
*in 8 years
What is?
It was the only way to not buy him. Thanks them !
I didn't think another persons hands would ever irritate me but here we are.
Everything.
Agreed.
Newcastle didn't want them though.