Another left forward/winger?Wouldn't Perisic be an obvious signing target?
Yep hard to moan at those signings, both look a shrewd bit business. Big upgrade on both positions with premier league proven players.Seems to me like William and alderwereld would add lots of experience and quality without really splashing much cash. Martial isn't playing anyway.
Beyond that getting deals done for rb lb and whatever cm would be good business. I don't even think the cm necessarily has to be a starter if we still look to play a 10 most games.
Starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel here. We could go into next season with a very strong and experienced regular 11.
Agreed.Instead of doing that, why don't we buy an actual RW! I'm sick and tired of us buying players who don't fit into our system or formation.
Sidibe, Sandro, Alderweireld, Fred, Willian. That's the five I think we'll go for too, possibly Talisca instead of Willian. No need for another CM with Pereira coming back.How realistic and good is:
DDG
Sidibe
Bailly
Alderweireld
Sandro
Matic
Fred
Pogba
Willian
Lukaku
Sanchez
With Martial,Rashford and Lingard rotated in.
I’ve noticed people mentioning Pereira across the forum. I don’t get the hype. I get he is talented but doesn’t seem like a player that will settle in the EPL. Him leaving rather than staying said quite a bit and with all the injuries we had last year, he would’ve definitely got playing time.Sidibe, Sandro, Alderweireld, Fred, Willian. That's the five I think we'll go for too, possibly Talisca instead of Willian. No need for another CM with Pereira coming back.
Don't think anyone will be able to get passed our right side with the aggressiveness and agility of Willian, Fred, Sidibe and Bailly. Imagine that compared to Mata, Herrera, Valencia and Smalling.
I believe so too. I think if we can do business like we're being tipped to do, we'll be a bit of a machine next year with no glaring weaknesses. We might not play like Barcelona but I think we'll be a lot better to watch.Seems to me like William and alderwereld would add lots of experience and quality without really splashing much cash. Martial isn't playing anyway.
Beyond that getting deals done for rb lb and whatever cm would be good business. I don't even think the cm necessarily has to be a starter if we still look to play a 10 most games.
Starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel here. We could go into next season with a very strong and experienced regular 11.
Yep, the first step to becoming any sort of great side is to have balance first and foremost.I believe so too. I think if we can do business like we're being tipped to do, we'll be a bit of a machine next year with no glaring weaknesses. We might not play like Barcelona but I think we'll be a lot better to watch.
Mourinho didn't want him to go on loan last summer, which suggests he rates him and wants him here.I’ve noticed people mentioning Pereira across the forum. I don’t get the hype. I get he is talented but doesn’t seem like a player that will settle in the EPL. Him leaving rather than staying said quite a bit and with all the injuries we had last year, he would’ve definitely got playing time.
I’m pretty certain he goes out on loan or just as likely gets sold. Team is looking to add 2 CMs... that would mean 6-7 midfielders already (Pogba, Matic, Herrera, Mata, McTominay, new CM, new CM). I just don’t see where he’d fit in and quite frankly think his time at United is over.
@ the latter, true...worlds a part and how refreshing would that be lol
True but from what I recall him not staying got him on José’s naughty listMourinho didn't want him to go on loan last summer, which suggests he rates him and wants him here.
Pereira, although a different type of player, is on a different level to the massively over hyped Mctominay. We need to give Pereira chance this year, we will regret selling him, he is a real talent.I’ve noticed people mentioning Pereira across the forum. I don’t get the hype. I get he is talented but doesn’t seem like a player that will settle in the EPL. Him leaving rather than staying said quite a bit and with all the injuries we had last year, he would’ve definitely got playing time.
I’m pretty certain he goes out on loan or just as likely gets sold. Team is looking to add 2 CMs... that would mean 6-7 midfielders already (Pogba, Matic, Herrera, Mata, McTominay, new CM, new CM). I just don’t see where he’d fit in and quite frankly think his time at United is over.
@ the latter, true...worlds a part and how refreshing would that be lol
Highly doubt we would spend that much and sell that many players. Too disruptive and far too risky to the current squad.If we where to buy 6 players in these positions:
Prices based on transfer rumors, tried to pick from reliable sources but might not be right at all...
LB: Kieran Tierney £30m. (Alex Sandro for £40m including Darmian is a better but more expensive option.)
CB: Samuel Umtiti £53m release clause.
CM/CDM: Lucas Torreira £35m.
RW: Paulo Dybala £115m.
Optional RB: Djibril Sidibe £40m. (The position with most players available for a reasonable amount: Sidibe, Joao Cancelo, Ricardo Pereira and Odriozola are all viable alternatives.)
Optional CM/CAM: Jean Michael Seri £35m.
Total: £308m (£233) - (With the "standard" 15% agent/player fees: £355m (£267))
Our rumored budget is at £175m - £200m
Selling: Darmian £15m, Jones £20m, Rojo £10m, Shaw £25m, Mata £20m, Blind £15m and Fellaini £0m (Optional Herrera £20m, Smalling/Lindelof £20m, Romero £10m)
Total: £115m (£165m)
Buying all players within assumed transfer budget, and assumed prices for the players should be doable, but highly unlikely that we buy 6 players and sell 7/8/9 players.
Making us able to play the following set up if all transfers proposed were made:
DDG(Romero/Joel Pereira)
Sidibe(Valencia/TFM) - Bailly(Smalling) - Umtiti(Lindelof/Tuanzebe) - Tierney/Alex Sandro(Young)
Torreira(Seri/Herrera) - Matic(Torreira/Mctominay) - Pogba(A. Pereira)
Dybala(Lingard) - Lukaku(Martial) - Sanchez(Rashford)
Highly unlikely? yes.Highly doubt we would spend that much and sell that many players. Too disruptive and far too risky to the current squad.
Very much doubt Dybala would want to come over here. If he came to the EPL, he'd probably want to go to City or Liverpool (if they could afford him). As it is, we're already balking at SMS for a lower price, so I doubt we'd bid for Dybala at that price. TBH, it would be good to see prices get a bit moderated.If we where to buy 6 players in these positions:
Prices based on transfer rumors, tried to pick from reliable sources but might not be right at all...
LB: Kieran Tierney £30m. (Alex Sandro for £40m including Darmian is a better but more expensive option.)
CB: Samuel Umtiti £53m release clause.
CM/CDM: Lucas Torreira £35m.
RW: Paulo Dybala £115m.
Optional RB: Djibril Sidibe £40m. (The position with most players available for a reasonable amount: Sidibe, Joao Cancelo, Ricardo Pereira and Odriozola are all viable alternatives.)
Optional CM/CAM: Jean Michael Seri £35m.
Total: £308m (£233) - (With the "standard" 15% agent/player fees: £355m (£267))
Our rumored budget is at £175m - £200m
Selling: Darmian £15m, Jones £20m, Rojo £10m, Shaw £25m, Mata £20m, Blind £15m and Fellaini £0m (Optional Herrera £20m, Smalling/Lindelof £20m, Romero £10m)
Total: £115m (£165m)
Buying all players within assumed transfer budget, and assumed prices for the players should be doable, but highly unlikely that we buy 6 players and sell 7/8/9 players.
Making us able to play the following set up if all transfers proposed were made:
DDG(Romero/Joel Pereira)
Sidibe(Valencia/TFM) - Bailly(Smalling) - Umtiti(Lindelof/Tuanzebe) - Tierney/Alex Sandro(Young)
Torreira(Seri/Herrera) - Matic(Torreira/Mctominay) - Pogba(A. Pereira)
Dybala(Lingard) - Lukaku(Martial) - Sanchez(Rashford)
Too many who would be expected to start though? One of those and bringing through a younger player, be it McTominay or preferably Pereira would be ideal. The squad feels bloated as it is for some reason, letting more go than come in but upping the quality with 4 or 5 cast iron 1st teamers and opening squad spots to youngsters is what I would like to see. RB, LB, one CM and a RW is what I would like. Toby as well if we can move Jones/Rojo on.Fred and Fabinho would be excellent replacements for Fellaini and Carrick.
This was part of the initial aggressive investment period when Roman took over the club. A settled club shouldn't have the need to swap out that many players, especially when the manager is struggling to show that he can win with the players he has bought the past two transfer cycles.Highly unlikely? yes.
Is it what we should do? Yes
The squad is already disrupted/unsettled.
Mourinho at Chelsea 2004/2005 season: Bought 9 players, sold 14 players. Most of these players were either 1. 11 or playing regularly. Won the EPL and league cup, semi final in CL
Mourinho at Chelsea 2005/2006 season: Bought 5 players, sold 8 players. Won the EPL
Mourinho at Chelsea 2006/2007 season: Bought 6 players, sold 8 players, 2. EPL, Won League cup and FA cup, semi final in CL.
Mourinho at Inter 2009/2010 season: Bought 5/6 new players for the 1. 11, won Serie A, Coppa Italia and the champions league.
So the argument that many changes in the squad will be disruptive and risky, and potentially not bring success can be argued against. In fact, some of his best seasons have been when he has done major changes to the squad.
Every player at the club has been/is on jose's naughty list though.True but from what I recall him not staying got him on José’s naughty list
I guess time will only tell
What’s different from Fellaini contract and Martial how he’s holding the club to ransom? Both are well within their right imo.Some of the people in here are in full muppet mode, no way are we buying Willian, Talisca and Bale.
No way are we selling 7 or 8 players and bringing the same in, no way.
N'zonzi & Fred would be ideal signings to replace carrick and the disloyal Afro.
If we are to sign an attacking player, one will have to leave, and sadly that might be Martial.
Yes, we shouldn't have that need.This was part of the initial aggressive investment period when Roman took over the club. A settled club shouldn't have the need to swap out that many players, especially when the manager is struggling to show that he can win with the players he has bought the past two transfer cycles.
He's obviously going to buy several players and we are going to lose a few. But we shouldn't expect that transfers are going to magically liberate us from the problems we've had over the past two years, which are more down to squad ethos and the players not galvanizing around Mourinho's tactics and managements style. Only Jose himself can fix that.Yes, we shouldn't have that need.
But if the manager is not getting fired and this is the only way the manager is able to improve the club he is at. What other options are there?
Dybalas price it not the issue, and he'd be interested at the same wage as Pogba.Very much doubt Dybala would want to come over here. If he came to the EPL, he'd probably want to go to City or Liverpool (if they could afford him). As it is, we're already balking at SMS for a lower price, so I doubt we'd bid for Dybala at that price. TBH, it would be good to see prices get a bit moderated.
Actually don't mind the other IN's, but I can't see Umtiti coming either. We've probably sounded him out, but I'd think net cost would be the same or even lower with Alderweireld (figure we're luring Umtiti with a crazy wage). Not that Alderweireld would be on a cheap weekly wage, but if Umtiti was cheaper and actually wanted to come, we'd have sorted it out by now.
I think he’s been hamstrung with key positions much like city last year with their full backs. Once we have full backs capable of getting up and down and not just supporting but over lapping we’ll see more fluidity in our attack and will open options for our midfielders imo. Full back is the key but midfield and right wing are needing upgrades also. Will be interesting as that’s 4 positions and I think signing 4 is the top number we’ll sign maybe only 3 and with Jose looking at or rumoured to be interested in Alderweireld and Fred then that leaves both full backs and right back not touched and we have a big budget but not unlimited given we signed Sanchez in January.He's obviously going to buy several players and we are going to lose a few. But we shouldn't expect that transfers are going to magically liberate us from the problems we've had over the past two years, which are more down to squad ethos and the players not galvanizing around Mourinho's tactics and managements style. Only Jose himself can fix that.
I don't think that buying players will fix the problems we had. But it seems to be the managers viewpoint.He's obviously going to buy several players and we are going to lose a few. But we shouldn't expect that transfers are going to magically liberate us from the problems we've had over the past two years, which are more down to squad ethos and the players not galvanizing around Mourinho's tactics and managements style. Only Jose himself can fix that.
I agree with the latter but then I also think it leaves us thin if Pogba goes down. We all saw how meh we were without him.Every player at the club has been/is on jose's naughty list though.
You cant blame a player for wanting to go out on loan after being given no gaurentee of first team action here. Periera wasn't too know we'd have all the injuries at the time. And he's done well over at Valencia.
We should sign one CM and use him next year
I’ve always felt we’ve been short in CM. I’ve felt this way since 2008 and it’s never been properly addressed. We are an injury away from being very weak in there as it is, I’d love more than anything for Pereria to be given a go but let’s face it the odds are against Jose doing that.Too many who would be expected to start though? One of those and bringing through a younger player, be it McTominay or preferably Pereira would be ideal. The squad feels bloated as it is for some reason, letting more go than come in but upping the quality with 4 or 5 cast iron 1st teamers and opening squad spots to youngsters is what I would like to see. RB, LB, one CM and a RW is what I would like. Toby as well if we can move Jones/Rojo on.
I fully expect this to be the case in truth. I think we will see 3 come in. It isn't enough but I think that's what Jose will do.My fear is not so much who we bring in, or the quality, but actual numbers.
I’d hate to think we end up only signing two players, possibly three.
To beat city to the title we need more than 3 players.I fully expect this to be the case in truth. I think we will see 3 come in. It isn't enough but I think that's what Jose will do.