Zoo
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Time to start getting ruthless in January.
We are second in the league and doing much better than last season.I'll give him January and the summer transfer windows to get things right before I even think about turning on him. But if our attack is still a shambles next season serious questions will need to be asked.
Of course he was. It’s not really tactics when you play that many second string players. The fringe players let him down tonight.Let down by the players tonight imo.
I get that he didn't tell his players to be shit, but is it not fair to ask what he actually did tell his players? Because they all looked like the Championship team tonight. Didn't look like anyone had any idea what they were actually doingLet down by the players tonight imo.
No way he instructed his defenders to be flat footed and half asleep. No way he instructed his big guns to be complacent and half arsed.
And hire who?Can him in the summer.
Wouldn't give him any more money.
He's not going to win any major titles with United
Same question for you as well, hire who?I don't think he is tactically good enough anymore. Also mentally something is not right. He is not the big confident winner anymore and the same can be said with our team. I think we need to let go in the summer. We will win enough games in the league, but that edge to win titles is gone.
He’s a professional manager. He almost certainly treated this as any other game in terms of preparation. Any doubts about that are just ridiculous.I get that he didn't tell his players to be shit, but is it not fair to ask what he actually did tell his players? Because they all looked like the Championship team tonight. Didn't look like anyone had any idea what they were actually doing
I wonder if he genuinely rates McTominay or is he trying to buy into United way of giving youth a chance, we got dominated in the center for the millionth time. This time it was Bristol fecking City, it's infuriating how many second balls we don't contest never mind win, you see City playing midgets in midfield and they run and tackle more than our supposed powerhouse.
I don't doubt for a second that Mou is a professional, and a very, very good manager, but there's been more occasions this season where questions can be raised about what our gameplan actually is, because very often it looks like he spends a lot of time making the defence right, then tosses a lot of attacking players out there and expect them to just get things done.He’s a professional manager. He almost certainly treated this as any other game in terms of preparation. Any doubts about that are just ridiculous.
As others have stated perhaps changing the team to the extent he did was an issue...but those players have the capacity to do the job that was needed. They just didn’t, and I imagine that’s natural complacency which we’ve witnessed on many occasions (Leeds at Home in the FA Cup, MK Dons away in 2014).
Darmian, Rojo, Blind, were all quite fecking shocking, take your pick.Who was he referring to when he said some players looked like didn't want to be in the office? Reckon it's Blind?
That's just the usual line he uses when we drop points.Who was he referring to when he said some players looked like didn't want to be in the office? Reckon it's Blind?
Yeah was thinking that for a while, he tactically not the most flexible but what made him great is game management and that sense of invincibility sort of aura if you will but doesn't feel like it's still there with him. Let's see though.I don't think he is tactically good enough anymore. Also mentally something is not right. He is not the big confident winner anymore and the same can be said with our team. I think we need to let go in the summer. We will win enough games in the league, but that edge to win titles is gone.
Yeah we lost because of the balance alrightI think he made a mistake playing both Rashford and Martial. Mata should have played.
Normally I'd give any youth player plenty of time but I always felt exactly that - mctominnay is more to do about pleasing us alongside not having to change the style of football too much.I wonder if he genuinely rates McTominay or is he trying to buy into United way of giving youth a chance, we got dominated in the center for the millionth time. This time it was Bristol fecking City, it's infuriating how many second balls we don't contest never mind win, you see City playing midgets in midfield and they run and tackle more than our supposed powerhouse.
And hire who?
Same question for you as well, hire who?
Well we needed more control of the game. There was issues with Blind, Mctominay and Darmian as well. No need to make snide remarks.Yeah we lost because of the balance alright
Who do you suggest replaces him mate? Whoever it is, when the media blow torch gets turned up they will go to water. Just ask LVG and Moyes.Second season of Mourinho, and we got knocked out of the first competition now. Let’s see what’s gonna happen on CL and FA cup. If he doesn’t get any trophy this year. I wonder should United stick with him anymore as his record on third season was awful.
Ot maybe he inherited too many players from LVG who don't have right mentality?I don't think he is tactically good enough anymore. Also mentally something is not right. He is not the big confident winner anymore and the same can be said with our team. I think we need to let go in the summer. We will win enough games in the league, but that edge to win titles is gone.
I don't think it's either. Terry said he was the same in his second Chelsea stint, I don't see why he'd change so drastically in 2 years. The players aren't thick either imo, it was just a case of them getting complacent. With the players that played today, albeit they were mostly all second string, we should be beating Bristol City with or without a manager.Reading that interview with Terry and how meticulous he is at preparation, then watching us at many, many points this season I have to wonder if he's still that good, or if our players are just thick.
How did he have us play like a league 1 team tonight?Has us playing like a league one team.
We’ve been very lucky recently. A few of the wins could easily have been dropped points. Tonight the luck ran out!
Jepp it has not been the same since his days in Real Madrid I think. I think maybe getting tactically outclassed by Pep hurt him with his methods not being enough. The defeat against Pep now again must hurt really deep as well. It is difficult, but we should keep on fighting. Overall the results have been good, but we are not performing at our best in the most important games. I think that is a huge problem. Similar to Arsenal under Wenger for a long time.Yeah was thinking that for a while, he tactically not the most flexible but what made him great is game management and that sense of invincibility sort of aura if you will but doesn't feel like it's still there with him. Let's see though.
It is the basic attacking tactics that is not there. That is something you should have worked on over 1,5 years. You can have specific tactics and changes in different games, but basic methods of attacking and breaking down teams is something you should work on over time. You can see that with Pep. They struggled last seasons, but now the work they have done is paying off and they are attacking better as a team.The squad isn't good enough so when we make 10 (!) changes it shows.
Im not sure what tactial work can be done with those players when theres so many changes in a week of 3 games in 6 days though
A team with Zlatan,Pogba,Rashford and Martial in it should be able to beat most teams. Let’s not forget the rest of the internationals that were on the pitch. ‘The squad isn’t good enough” honestly some people are having an absolute wum.The squad isn't good enough so when we make 10 (!) changes it shows.
Im not sure what tactial work can be done with those players when theres so many changes in a week of 3 games in 6 days though
If we make CL for next season, not even a doubt he stays.Second season of Mourinho, and we got knocked out of the first competition now. Let’s see what’s gonna happen on CL and FA cup. If he doesn’t get any trophy this year. I wonder should United stick with him anymore as his record on third season was awful.