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Here we go
Our fanbase is a joke.
Exactly. The team is just being very poorly managed.A team with Zlatan,Pogba,Rashford and Martial in it should be able to beat most teams. Let’s not forget the rest of the internationals that were on the pitch. ‘The squad isn’t good enough” honestly some people are having an absolute wum.
Probably shows that we didn't really care much about this cup, if we win - good, if we don't - move on. However our fans act like we just lost a CL final. It's Carabao or whatever it's called now cup FFS.TBF though while I think the players were far too complacent, I'd argue so too was Jose. Basically playing a whole new squad of fringe players who for the most part haven't featured in our team for a while was the wrong decision imo. Especially when Rojo and Ibra have barely played since their injuries and are probably still building fitness.
Why should he have to get them to focus? They're not kids, they're supposed professional football players but obviously couldn't be fecked tonight.Mourinho: “It was another day in the office and for some of our players they probably didn't even want to come into the office today.”
Interesting comment. Surely he is able to get them all to focus and be up for a cup game?
Yes, partly. It's still the league cup against Bristol City in the heads of the players though.Mourinho: “It was another day in the office and for some of our players they probably didn't even want to come into the office today.”
Interesting comment. Surely he is able to get them all to focus and be up for a cup game?
They said that because of the bad year he had after he won them the league?Chelsea fans I know were laughing at me when he was appointed United manager. They all said the same thing, he isn’t the same Mourinho any more.
He needs to find his mojo again.
it was a striking thing to say, and reminded me of the Herrera comment a few weeks ago after losing to HuddersfieldMourinho: “It was another day in the office and for some of our players they probably didn't even want to come into the office today.”
Interesting comment. Surely he is able to get them all to focus and be up for a cup game?
I see you are still trying to win worst post of the year award. I think you are just in time.The sooner fans and those that work in the big offices accept that he doesn't suit our club the better.
Can’t argue with that. The lack of movement to create or give options all over the pitch is just horrid. Bristol Just gave us a footballing lesson and I refuse to believe it’s down to just our players. If they’d made it this far in to a proffesional career not being able to do simple things like give someone an option or play a simple pass and move then something somewhere went wrong.Exactly. The team is just being very poorly managed.
The attacking play from our team is some of the worst that I have ever seen from a premier league club.
Individual player brilliance saves our bacon more often than not.
It kills me that we didn't get Pep. We are so badly run it's sickening. Moyes, then LVG then Mouriho. All just throwing money about. If we fire Mou and don't let him develop his plan then we would have wasted almost half a decade and achieved nothing. We are too deep in this so I reckon we have to stick with him.The sooner fans and those that work in the big offices accept that he doesn't suit our club the better.
I feel like the team he put out just showed they weren't up to it and/ or not quality enough. Choices are slim, we couldnt play matic, young, valencia or jones and arguably lukaku for fear of injury or fatigue. Our only real options from our so called first team would be mata and smalling (both not the best game changers). We've been waiting for pog, he needs time to settle but this means we'll keep seeing performances like this. I think our squad is just below averageTBF though while I think the players were far too complacent, I'd argue so too was Jose. Basically playing a whole new squad of fringe players who for the most part haven't featured in our team for a while was the wrong decision imo. Especially when Rojo and Ibra have barely played since their injuries and are probably still building fitness.
In Jose's defence I think he's done a decent job cleaning up the terrible mess the last two managers made. Aside from Mkhitaryan I wouldn't say he's wasted money. It's the other two clowns who squandered hundreds of millions and left us with loads of shit to clear out.It kills me that we didn't get Pep. We are so badly run it's sickening. Moyes, then LVG then Mouriho. All just throwing money about. If we fire Mou and don't let him develop his plan then we would have wasted almost half a decade and achieved nothing. We are too deep in this so I reckon we have to stick with him.
I would personally try and get Conte if he leaves Chelsea or try and get Tuchels as a second choice.
and the award goes to.....I see you are still trying to win worst post of the year award. I think you are just in time.
It kills me that we didn't get Pep. We are so badly run it's sickening. Moyes, then LVG then Mouriho. All just throwing money about. If we fire Mou and don't let him develop his plan then we would have wasted almost half a decade and achieved nothing. We are too deep in this so I reckon we have to stick with him.
I would personally try and get Conte if he leaves Chelsea or try and get Tuchels as a second choice.
ThisHere we goOur fanbase is a joke.
and the award goes to.....
Its not too late, how can it be? Its just his second season after all.It kills me that we didn't get Pep. We are so badly run it's sickening. Moyes, then LVG then Mouriho. All just throwing money about. If we fire Mou and don't let him develop his plan then we would have wasted almost half a decade and achieved nothing. We are too deep in this so I reckon we have to stick with him.
I would personally try and get Conte if he leaves Chelsea or try and get Tuchels as a second choice.
Said it before but players can't just switch between styles. They can't alternate between tight, compact stuff to expansive, flowing football week by week. You end up with a bunch of confused guys not sure of how to go about their work. Which to me is exactly how we look in the final third.We should be smashing Bristol City with no manager. It was just complacency (mixed with some players just being shite *Darmian) from the players. You could argue it's his job to get them ready for the game, which I agree with, but that's not a good enough reason to excuse them.
Don't worry, you'll open your eyes and use your brain in due time.I see you are still trying to win worst post of the year award. I think you are just in time.
Other pragmatic teams can manage it, why can't we?Said it before but players can't just switch between styles. They can't alternate between tight, compact stuff to expansive, flowing football week by week. You end up with a bunch of confused guys not sure of how to go about their work. Which to me is exactly how we look in the final third.
In other words its a problem we've been developing for a while. Can't be solved in the build up to a game.
Been saying this for ages..... but people on this forum say we just need better players. No. Our offensive coaching is s.h.i.t.Can’t argue with that. The lack of movement to create or give options all over the pitch is just horrid. Bristol Just gave us a footballing lesson and I refuse to believe it’s down to just our players. If they’d made it this far in to a proffesional career not being able to do simple things like give someone an option or play a simple pass and move then something somewhere went wrong.
It’s just ridiculous.
I can't think of another team that flicks between styles like we do. Especially amongst the top teams.Other pragmatic teams can manage it, why can't we?
Juventus did it in the CL last season, Chelsea can do it, Atleti are capable (prior to this season anyway, they've just been shite this season). Also tactics don't necessarily reflect what was taught in training though.I can't think of another team that flicks between styles like we do. Especially amongst the top teams.
Players need consistency, you can't in the build up to a game like this ask the players to create angles, run off the ball and create overlaps etc when for most of the time you've drilled them into being solid and defensive.
Which ones? I’ll grant you Darmian.He’s made a big mistake and now he is slowly realising it.
Where as Pep was smart and had a big clear out. Which Jose should have done also.
There’s quite a few players I’m still perplexed are still at the club.
I'm not even sure you're flicking between styles deliberately. It all seems haphazard. LvG settled on a system that worked, then abandoned it permanently. Mourinho's followed suit. He has had United looking composed - which is the least you can expect - but recent play and tactics have become incoherent at best.I can't think of another team that flicks between styles like we do. Especially amongst the top teams.
Players need consistency, you can't in the build up to a game like this ask the players to create angles, run off the ball and create overlaps etc when for most of the time you've drilled them into being solid and defensive.
Darmian, Blind, Mata, Fellaini and Shaw.Which ones? I’ll grant you Darmian.
As a squad player I’ve got no issues with Blind, he’s done his job when asked and I’m not sure you’ll find a better option for the bench.Darmian, Blind, Mata, Fellaini and Shaw.
You can add Herrera and Mkhitaryan to the list after their showings this season.
Not signing proper fullbacks or even a winger in two years is madness. Yeah I know we wanted Perisic, but surely Jose had other targets.
City strengthend all their weaknesses in the summer. The only upgrade we got from last year is Matic. Lukaku effectively replaced Ibrahimovic. Lindelof has been decent the last few games, but he hasn’t been better than Jones or Smalling.
Wide areas have been a problem for a while yet the club and manager have not addressed it.
Yeah I’ve encountered the same response many times. Someone earlier said today’s defeat was down to our squad being poor. Zlatan,Pogba,Martial,Rashford were included in today’s team with a load of internationals yet it’s not good enough.Been saying this for ages..... but people on this forum say we just need better players. No. Our offensive coaching is s.h.i.t.