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Jose Mourinho | Sacked by Roma
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Winner of conference league 2022
Winner of Europa league 2023 possibly, though he has to get past sevilla…
Winner of Europa league 2023 possibly, though he has to get past sevilla…
Fair play they showed bottle when it looked like going out of Europa League,hope they win it now for Smalling & Matic
We came so close to Mourinhoing Mourinho out of the EL. 5 fecking minutes.
Yes and the reason for this is horrible PR from picking some of the most toxic and impossible jobs.
Also, this step down means zilch, Ancelotti was managing Everton not that long ago. Give the man the support and he will deliver - always has and always will.
Bollox. He had plenty of support at United and all he delivered was toxicity and horrible football. Likewise his last stint at Chelsea.
Also. Look at the Serie A table. What is he delivering for Roma in their league campaign?
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I hope we get a Roma-Sevilla final.
20 years ago he led his Porto team to glory in this competition (despite the different name and format), which was built on half the budget compared to their opponents in the final Martin O'Neill's Celtic team (even before we consider what happened in the Champions League the following season that was an outstanding achievement in its own right). It would be pretty cool if he was to win it with Roma 20 years later, and it would be interesting to see how his team did against the competition kingpins Sevilla.
20 years ago he led his Porto team to glory in this competition (despite the different name and format), which was built on half the budget compared to their opponents in the final Martin O'Neill's Celtic team (even before we consider what happened in the Champions League the following season that was an outstanding achievement in its own right). It would be pretty cool if he was to win it with Roma 20 years later, and it would be interesting to see how his team did against the competition kingpins Sevilla.
He didn't deliver at United.
And before you bring up the 2 trophies, he wasn't brought in to win the Europa League and League cup.
He failed here. Spectacularly.
I new his acolytes would come out of the woodworks
I wouldn't swap him for Arne Slot even if he paid us for it 
He got sacked in shame from 3 Premier League jobs in a row.
He is still 14 points away of doing better than his predecessor though. Although Roma improved the xGA, they got worse in the xG and had won a lot of games where players quality made the real difference.
Not saying JM cannot go back to the top, but for that to happen it would be necessary to have a squad that would get into his mindset, and a lot of nowadays players won't accept an extremely authoritarian figure as he is, and the bellicose mindset he tries to instill.
Not saying JM cannot go back to the top, but for that to happen it would be necessary to have a squad that would get into his mindset, and a lot of nowadays players won't accept an extremely authoritarian figure as he is, and the bellicose mindset he tries to instill.
I'm far from a José fan but credit where it's due. He's done brilliantly with Dybala.
When I was watching Juventus from 2020-22, he looked done for both seasons. I thought he was finished. Watching him for Roma this season and I think it's the best I've ever seen him play.
Too bad his body can't handle it for long. If he weren't so prone to injuries, I think his current form would've attracted some of the bigger clubs attention he's been that impressive.
When I was watching Juventus from 2020-22, he looked done for both seasons. I thought he was finished. Watching him for Roma this season and I think it's the best I've ever seen him play.
Too bad his body can't handle it for long. If he weren't so prone to injuries, I think his current form would've attracted some of the bigger clubs attention he's been that impressive.
My view is that the support he was given at United is not enough to challenge for the top honors in the modern era. I think that the only real blemish (result-wise) in the first two seasons is the CL exit to Sevilla and I absolutely do not think he was properly backed between seasons 2 and 3.
For Roma, he is delivering a CL spot + another excellent European run, which was in line with their preseason expectations.
Or you think that Pep/Klopp/Tuchel/whoever could win La Liga with Betis?
Mouriniho signed Bailly who was shite and then Lindelof who was shite and then moans in his final Summer that he wasn’t backed for a CB. He didn’t get the best out of our current players and he was fully backed but didn’t get the best out of our new signings. He was a toxic disaster.
He spent an absolute feck load and bought utter dross that we are still burdened with.
And yet he was expected to compete with a guy who inherited Aguero, KDB, Silva etc and was allowed to quickly replace his own transfer flops.
His transfer record is hit and miss, as is with most managers, but in order to push on after the second season, he should have been additionally backed.
I do not see how he could have achieved more in the first two seasons (bar second season's CL run).
We don't know if he was really behind the transfers, that's why talking about managers and buying players it's weird, only on some specific cases that we have more info about we know if it was the club or the manager.
Occam's razor says that given that Utd generally has been buying badly for the last 10 years or so then there is a cause that isn't tied to Mourinho...
He won some titles in the first year (turns out winning the Europa League is not so easy, now is it?) and got a second place in the 2nd year (realistically did anyone expect that United team to challenge City???) and Mourinho didn't feel backed by the transfer policy after that. Was he right? We don't know because we don't know what happened behind the scenes.
Regardless of what he wanted or not he was correct that the team needed other players, would it be worse to spend money on the players he wanted instead of the expensive but bad players you bought in the meantime?
There isn't a right answer to this because we can't predict different outcomes but I think imho he gets too much hate for his sporting merits at United. Yes he is a bitter man when things don't go his way, everybody knew it, yet others like Conte get a funny pass when they do it.
Why not? He is our most (and only?) successful manager in post Fergie era.
Did he deserved sack? Of course he did. But hate that he gets here is mind blowing.
He gets the hate for a reason because he was a toxic and pathetic cnut who downed tools.
As he said; " what is a disaster for me is considered as a great success for others".
Yeah he talks shit and his disciples laps it up.
Would not surprise me if he wins the Europa League. I thought they might at the start of the season.
Just too good at winning cups. Tottenham were nuts to sack him just before a final.
Just too good at winning cups. Tottenham were nuts to sack him just before a final.
I am in front row when he talks
Never liked him, never will like him. His teams play shit football and they've always played shit football. He has a formula that works for a couple of years then it stops working and all you're left with is the shit football. So then he has to move on.
To be fair, although sacking him was 100% correct decision, and absolutely necessarily, he is still our most successful manager during post Fergie era.
Under 2.5 seasons:
- 2nd in PL
- League cup champion
- Europa league champion
Sacking him was the right choice. We played some amazing football on the first half of the second season, but then the team got jaded due to little rotation and things went downhill from there.
He shouldn't had started the 3rd season because it was rumoured he openly said to some players that if it was him deciding, they wouldn't be part of next season squad (Shaw, Pogba, etc).
Also, loosing José Morais from his technical team was a huge blow he probably never fully repaired in terms of training quality. Morais was an amazing tactical analyst
He shouldn't had started the 3rd season because it was rumoured he openly said to some players that if it was him deciding, they wouldn't be part of next season squad (Shaw, Pogba, etc).
Also, loosing José Morais from his technical team was a huge blow he probably never fully repaired in terms of training quality. Morais was an amazing tactical analyst
Napoli's winning the league though....
That said Mourinho has done very well in league this season although Juve getting points back means they could still miss out on top 4.
Think Leverkusen will have bit too much for them in the SF.
That said Mourinho has done very well in league this season although Juve getting points back means they could still miss out on top 4.
Think Leverkusen will have bit too much for them in the SF.
What exactly is disrespectful? Is he supposed to pretend he likes Roma’s playing style ?
This tweet is missing context. According to Sky, José was pissed because Slot refused to shake hands on the touchline.Never change Jose. Never change
Last year, before the Conference League final, he said "Roma only play long balls, we know what to expect". He's been talking a bit too much.
As a typical arrogant Dutchman who thinks that football was invented in the Netherlands haha.. i am totally on Joses side here Slot got what he deserves haha
It's just too bad in this thread you can't talk about him without posters bringing to acolytes up and the stuff. Let bygones be bygones.
Mourinho never lost his ability. It's his mentality that caused him the problems.
He went from the special one to the bitter deluded one. Seems like he was utterly joyless after leaving Real Madrid. Never been the same.
If the happy version of Mourinho returns, he'd still be a world class manager.
He went from the special one to the bitter deluded one. Seems like he was utterly joyless after leaving Real Madrid. Never been the same.
If the happy version of Mourinho returns, he'd still be a world class manager.
If he took some time away from football and reinvented himself, then maybe. However, I think we all know he's way too stubborn for that.
As things stand, the game has left him behind.
The budget argument is a strange one seeing the squad they had and what they were sold for or valued at.
Vitor Baia
Deco
Ferraria
Maniche
Carvalho
Derlei
Postiga
Costinha
A few names off the top of my head. Celtic reaching that final was a bigger achievement.
Can't take it away from him though, that and the following year were great successes.
A bit of a yesterday man Jose and despite his ending with us, would still be funny to see him win the EL.
I think judging those players in 2002/2003 with the benefit of hindsight and how their careers eventually panned out doesn't really work. Many of them were not big names at all at the time - I doubt Ferreira, Maniche, Carvalho, Derlei, Postiga were particularly well known names outside Portugal / within football before that season and in some cases even before that final.
Carvalho had just turned 25 but was still uncapped for Portugal at the time of that final (and I'm not sure if he was a regular starter for much of the previous 2001/2002 season), Maniche also 25 years old had been let go by Benfica and had only recently made his debut for Portugal, Ferreira had been signed from Vitoria Setubal and had appeared a few friendlies for Portugal that season and that was only his 2nd season playing in the Portuguese top flight , Derlei was an incredibly cheap signing from Leiria where he had previously worked with Mourinho, Postiga was still a young prodigy and made his first start for Portugal in a friendly the following month etc. I'd say that the likes of Larsson (though a huge bargain signing himself, who had scored in big European games, Old Firm matches and major international tournaments), Lambert a previous CL winner with Dortmund, Sutton (a former Premier League winner and expensive signing) were bigger names than many of the players in the Porto team. And Deco already at Porto before Mourinho (a very talented player but not considered to a world class superstar at the time) became more consistent and productive under him.
5-6 players that Celtic had already signed during Martin O'Neill's time cost more than any of Porto's signings during Mourinho's time - they paid about twice as much for Momo Sylla as Porto paid for Derlei. Celtic also had a noticeably higher wage bill than Porto at the time of that final and throughout that period in general - that period was the peak era for spending by Old Firm clubs. I think that money was tight for Porto due to the building of their new stadium ahead of Euro 2004, and the value of player sales exceeded the value of player purchases during his time there. Even if Porto hadn't won the Champions League the following season and had lost to Utd in the round of 16, Lyon in the quarter-finals (though they wn that tie comfortably), winning the UEFA Cup alone (in terms of continental silverware) still would have been a very big deal IMO.
FFSGOAT
Maybe goat balls or goat shit.
