Yeah no need for the American people to take responsibility at all. If the US president is free to do as be pleases no reason why people like this should be held to account.
Julian Assange arrested in Ecuadorian Embassy
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That's on America not Assange. I don't like the guy. He's a self absorbed narcissist but he exposed serious wrong doing by the US. Ecuador has thrown him under a bus but tbh, he didn't make it easy for them to keep him by constantly communicating with people like Stone.
What's he doing in Ecuador?
He's not allowed to take coke, is he?
He's not allowed to take coke, is he?
Being a day walker.
Home office has confirmed extradition request is concerned with “computer offences”.
If it's the Chelsea stuff, then it's not even going to help anyone's Trump/Russia fixation - she leaked those things herself, and straight to him.
For those asking why he was let go by Ecuador now - it's been some time in coming, but was a prospect the moment Lenin (wrong name huh) Moreno replaced Rafael Correa.
For those asking why he was let go by Ecuador now - it's been some time in coming, but was a prospect the moment Lenin (wrong name huh) Moreno replaced Rafael Correa.
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So has he been living in that embassy for 7 years? Did he ever leave? Do they have a garden? How did he get shopping?
Edward Snowden has been living in Russia for too long. UK’s secret police = ordinary police.
He expains one tweet below what he means.
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Wasn't he charged by Sweden because he couldn't be directly extradited from UK on US charges?
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If leaking sensitive information is a crime in the US, it doesn't set any kind of precedent because extradition to face criminal charges in the US already happens. It's just on this occasion you deem the crime harmless.
Public opinion on any person who sexually assaulted a woman and then used fear of US extradition to run into hiding is bound to be quite low. He did 95% of this stuff to himself.
The initial tape he leaked and is now being charged for is the tape of use military shooting innocent civilians. You have to be a bit nuanced here instead of simply saying he commited a crime so should be charged. Yes, US may deem that to be criminal but why is UK spending so much time and resource into extraditing an Australian for commiting espionage against USA.
Also, He was charged with sexual assault because he didn't wear a condom and the circumstances surrounding the case are suspicious to say the least.
It's worth noting that publishing a leak is an entirely separate act to the leaking of it. If this were not so the Washington Post would have acted illegally when it published the Pentagon Papers. As far as I know the only way that they could get Assange specifically for leaking is if they have evidence he assisted or otherwise encouraged the leak itself. Just being the recipient and distributor isn't enough.
Edit: According to the 2018 indictment US authorities do indeed claim to have evidence Assange was in contact with Manning while she was leaking and assisted her in the cracking of a password.
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I think they've convinced Chelsea Manning to turn on him. Last I heard She was put in prison for not testifying in front of a Grand Jury even though she's already been pardoned. The judge has ordered her to be imprisoned for not cooperating which sounds seedy to say the least.
Extradition warrant is apparently because he conspired with CM to hack into the dB to retrieve the info...NOT for publishing the leaks.
Talk about arrogance.
Item 7 in the general allegations of the charge state that Assange agreed to assist Manning in hacking a password stored on DoD computers.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/press-release/file/1153481/download
But, the onus of proof lies on the prosecution. So to trial we go.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/press-release/file/1153481/download
But, the onus of proof lies on the prosecution. So to trial we go.
Can someone with a better memory for these things remind me of the precedent set in the UK when it comes to extraditing based on computer hacking charges? I seem to remember high profile cases where the UK courts refused to sanction extradition in similar circumstances, but can't recall the exact specifics.
Sorry but yes, if he committed a crime, he should be charged. There's nothing nuanced about the law.
If the woman reported the sexual assault and felt as though he had sexually assaulted her, whether you deem it a sexual assault or not is irrelevant. If she wanted him to wear a condom and he refused and had sex with her anyway, and Swedish law allows for a conviction in this regard, it's really simple. If someone you like murdered someone you dislike, they shouldn't be exempt from charges of murder just because you like them.
I'm guessing because he was after Hillary and hurt the feelings of some posters but besides that he exposed the US military.
So he didn't hack Manning did it he just published the hacks like Guardian, Der Spiegel, NYT did! So who's going to be arrested besides him?
Would you hold the same opinion about a gay person being stoned to death in Saudi Arabia?
Are you really comparing sexual assault to homosexuality here?
Possibly where the alleged hacker was autistic? I seem to remember a case like that.
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Nope my comment was regarding the bolded part, ie. him being charged for espionage in US.
Was he involved with Putin before his 7-year stay at the embassy? I can understand someone being frustrated with the U.S. if he'd have to stay in one room for years after exposing war crimes and trying to retaliate.
It looks horrible, considering the charges that they're bringing against him. Straight-forward police-regime move. Although perhaps he did something bad over the last few years, as I said, I'm not really in the loop.
It looks horrible, considering the charges that they're bringing against him. Straight-forward police-regime move. Although perhaps he did something bad over the last few years, as I said, I'm not really in the loop.
The decisions on how to apply laws and to whom can be authoritarian. In the real world, people with power make decisions all the time on these matters and shockingly, they arent all applied equally.
Hes still probably a rapist though.
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I thought he wanted Trump?
"whistleblower advocate"