Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch

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Short reign on the Caf? I've been here since 2006 which is 3 years longer than yourself. Stop posting such claptrap and actually back up what you're saying.

You say United have had no injuries then get resoundingly proved wrong. They have infact had more long term issues than Liverpool. You then complain about squads and how much money has been spent. Well guess what. You could afford your new stand so who's fault is it your squad is as thin as the paper in Uncle Rafa's notebook?

2 years Klopp has had.
Ah mixed you up with another poster. What BS re. squad, and this is what some United fans on here like to resort to, didn't know you were one of them .... loadsamoney ! Yaay !
 

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the irony.

"The cups have lost their relevance" says a fan who's team has depended on them for credibility over the past near 30 years. The same people who whined that United "disrespected " these same competitions before following like a bunch of sheep with changed sides. You haven't got a squad because you pissed money away on garbage. You pack your defence with eleven men after being gifted yet another soft pen before defending for the remainder of the 90 mins and then complain about "long ball" before doing the exact same thing, days later. Cb pushed up to grab a late, desperate equaliser ring any bells? Then there's the wind.

Get some credibility.
Well that's a real mixed bag, not much makes any sense in the context you're quoting me, except in your head I guess.
 

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Am I stupid, or does this not make any sense?
I'm guessing it's a vocabulary deficiency from not speaking in his native tongue rather than the stupidity United fans are attributing to it. Most likely he was referring to losing 3 matches on the bounce in the PL thereby dropping us down the league.
 

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I'm guessing it's a vocabulary deficiency from not speaking in his native tongue rather than the stupidity United fans are attributing to it. Most likely he was referring to losing 3 matches on the bounce in the PL thereby dropping us down the league.
You can attribute it to anything you like.

I rather look at reality based on observational facts. And those are the klopp is a very, very bad loser unable to accept responsibility for anything and will spout absolutely any old shite to deflect from it. In other words, he's a tit. He was before he got near liverpool, he remains so now.
 

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You can attribute it to anything you like.

I rather look at reality based on observational facts. And those are the klopp is a very, very bad loser unable to accept responsibility for anything and will spout absolutely any old shite to deflect from it. In other words, he's a tit. He was before he got near liverpool, he remains so now.
Those are YOUR observations, they are not facts.
 

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What happened to the whole "fatigue won't be an issue" thing?
Never said it wouldn't be an issue with 2 games a week. Of course it was going to be an issue. Why do you think I hold such high stock in the other top 5 teams resuming Europe very soon?

We had a run of games plus a spate of absences all happening at once. Remaining in the cups could have seen a repeat of those spates (mainly to Hendo, Matip and Lallana) which we can't afford. We need cover for them in the summer, but no CL and our first choices won't come. They certainly won't come if we finish 5th but won the EFL cup.
 

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Karius - 6 - let down by defenders not defending.

Randall - 3 - simply not good enough at even this level and is a slow, defensive, FB. Should never have been picked for this game.

Gomez - 5 - he's still very young and has just come back from what 12-18 months out ? feck off if you think you can determine how good he's going to be from the few minutes he's had since returning.

Klavan - 4 - he struggles against pace and should never have been selected for this game.

Moreno 3 - please go away and never come back.

Lucas - 2 - dear fecking Christ. Why are you still here ?

Wijnaldum - 4 - really poor game from him. Shocking because he's so much better than that.

Ejaria - 6 - I think this kid has something, an improvement on Can even now.

Firmino - 4 - zero support from midfield. Why oh why play him wide left when we all know that is his worst, least effective, position.

Origi - 5 - zero support from midfield. Often dropped deep to even see some of the ball (where he did OK TBH). A goal.

Woodburn - 6 - zero support from midfield. Better in the second half but he's 17 years old FFS. He's an out and out striker and he's being played as a makeshift winger / wingback ? When we also have Ojo (who played well when brought on the other day) and Wilson (very tricky and scores a lot of goals, 19 this season for the U23's), both speed merchants with skill, even if both very young, so really Klopp ... WTF ?

Subs.
Coutinho - 6 - couldn't do it alone, though he tried to.

Can - 4 - who ? I didn't even notice him, zero affect on the team. he's gone backwards this season.

Sturridge - 4 - he's gone hasn't he. Skill is still there but pace and willingness to put in the effort aren't there any longer.

Klopp - 0 - Wrong team (though I agree with saving some players for Chelsea, they've already had a very hard month and a few are just back from injury too), wrong substitutions, wrong tactics.
What's the deal with this dude - heard big things but everytime I've watched him he's been ineffective and aside from that great header vrs City I haven't seen him do anything of note
 

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Their next three games are Chelsea (H) Hull (A) and Spurs (H), there's a very good chance this utter tit can lose 3 in one competition within those games.
 

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What's the deal with this dude - heard big things but everytime I've watched him he's been ineffective and aside from that great header vrs City I haven't seen him do anything of note
To paraphrase Wijnaldum himself ' Klopp has a new role for me, one I haven't played before .... '

I was expecting to see him wide left or at #10 (where we don't need him) so this is indeed a new, rather withdrawn, role he's playing. Actually I've been impressed with him most of the time (though he was awful vs Wolves but I'll put that down as much to those around him also having an awful day). It is a role that isn't going to attract much attention though, playing as the fulcrum for attacks, so linking the midfield (particularly on the left and centre) with the attackers.
 
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''Twas actually a good Monday all-in-all. I'm unusually chirpy for a Monday.

I caught those kisses, thanks :angel:
Ha ha - hey I only sent one !

Well I finally got my logo for my new website finalised and I'm delighted with it, so now looking forward to putting it on my photographs and on the new site so yeah, really good day here too.
 

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What's the deal with this dude - heard big things but everytime I've watched him he's been ineffective and aside from that great header vrs City I haven't seen him do anything of note
He's utter dross. Bizarre that he was signed and Klopp is trying to turn him into a completely different player.

Why not eh sign a player who plays that position naturally. Wijnaldum was always a wide attacking player. Didn't rate him at Newcastle either but he's been horrific for Liverpool.
 

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the deal with wijnaldum is he's a bang average player, simple as that. He's the one player they absolutely need to upgrade if they want to challenge for the title next season
 

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Ha ha - hey I only sent one !

Well I finally got my logo for my new website finalised and I'm delighted with it, so now looking forward to putting it on my photographs and on the new site so yeah, really good day here too.
Ah, I thought it was plural. My bad.

Good stuff dude, best of luck with that. You won't catch me up at 2am though, that's madness.
 

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the deal with wijnaldum is he's a bang average player, simple as that. He's the one player they absolutely need to upgrade if they want to challenge for the title next season
Worst post on the forum. As if Liverpool need to change just one player to challenge for the title...
 

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Their next three games are Chelsea (H) Hull (A) and Spurs (H), there's a very good chance this utter tit can lose 3 in one competition within those games.
Liverpool will do extremely well to get 4 Points out of those three games. However, anything less than 7 (and 3 of those have to be against Chelsea) means they'll have left themselves too much to do if they want to get back into the title picture. Really has been a sour month for the scouse.
 

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the deal with wijnaldum is he's a bang average player, simple as that. He's the one player they absolutely need to upgrade if they want to challenge for the title next season
That's a huge issue with Liverpool, too many average players. They are like He-Man characters, someone mentions one and you think back trying to remember what they look like. This is the same for Liverpool players but they are not from you're childhood, they are from three seasons ago. Markovic came on for Hull last week and it took me a few minutes to remember him, the next Nedved I believe he was called. Sure Rafa signed 108 players during his spell. No wonder Sterling and Suarez went running.
 

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Worst post on the forum. As if Liverpool need to change just one player to challenge for the title...
Of course it's not just one player. But it's the one position were they absolutely need to upgrade, and the most important(along with CF). Liverpool could have challenged for the title if they signed nainggolan and lewandowski. The rest of their team is good enough. Of course that doesn't mean they can't upgrade other positions, too. But they don't desperately need to
 

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Liverpool will do extremely well to get 4 Points out of those three games. However, anything less than 7 (and 3 of those have to be against Chelsea) means they'll have left themselves too much to do if they want to get back into the title picture. Really has been a sour month for the scouse.
It'd be like them to turn Chelsea over, loose to Hull and draw with Spurs.
That's a huge issue with Liverpool, too many average players. They are like He-Man characters, someone mentions one and you think back trying to remember what they look like. This is the same for Liverpool players but they are not from you're childhood, they are from three seasons ago. Markovic came on for Hull last week and it took me a few minutes to remember him, the next Nedved I believe he was called. Sure Rafa signed 108 players during his spell. No wonder Sterling and Suarez went running.
To be fair, it'd be hard to recognize Markovic, he's aged like 10 years in the last 2 years.
 

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He is just a smartarse who is clearly on the edge and is being a clown trying to spin things. Times like these it's best to shut up and get on with the job. The more you open your gob the funnier it becomes for the world.
 

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Is there any logic to his quote? It's not like they are unbeaten in the league or anything, it's like him saying "we are shit in the cups and the league".
 

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Of course it's not just one player. But it's the one position were they absolutely need to upgrade, and the most important(along with CF). Liverpool could have challenged for the title if they signed nainggolan and lewandowski. The rest of their team is good enough. Of course that doesn't mean they can't upgrade other positions, too. But they don't desperately need to
I think you need a new keeper, left back, 2 central defender, a central midfielder and a centre forward plus decent cover for almost every position. Apart from that you are golden...
 

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Ha ha - hey I only sent one !

Well I finally got my logo for my new website finalised and I'm delighted with it, so now looking forward to putting it on my photographs and on the new site so yeah, really good day here too.
What's the site about?
 

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Klopp seems like the sort of bloke who sits in the dressing room wearing earphones and laughing uncontrollably, even though the earphones aren't plugged into anything
 

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Liverpool will be fine as long as going from playing shite to playing great is something that you can easily switch between by clicking your fingers and wanting it to happen.

It's possible that it's a little more complex than that.

In two games against United, Liverpool were very poor I thought. Draw was about right in both games and United were decent for the first half at Anfield but less so second half. The win away to Arsenal was one of those bonkers first game of the season matches - which Liverpool nearly threw away in the last 20 minutes.


Those are YOUR observations, they are not facts.
If only someone had said this to the real Rafa back in 2009 before his press conference. ;)
 

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I can understand that their main target is securing top 4. That's perfectly fine but it's not okay when they add this bullshit that winning domestic cups isn't a good foundation for long term success or to attract players anymore. Delusional. They are acting as if they have gotten bored of winning them every year.
 

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Out of two cups in quick sucession and ruling themselves out of the title race already. k then klopp
 

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Liverpool will be fine as long as going from playing shite to playing great is something that you can easily switch between by clicking your fingers and wanting it to happen.

It's possible that it's a little more complex than that.

In two games against United, Liverpool were very poor I thought. Draw was about right in both games and United were decent for the first half at Anfield but less so second half. The win away to Arsenal was one of those bonkers first game of the season matches - which Liverpool nearly threw away in the last 20 minutes.

If only someone had said this to the real Rafa back in 2009 before his press conference. ;)
Ha ha - touche. Often games between two top teams don't live up to billing because their strengths nullify each other.
 

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I can understand that their main target is securing top 4. That's perfectly fine but it's not okay when they add this bullshit that winning domestic cups isn't a good foundation for long term success or to attract players anymore.
It isn't. It was, but the sad truth is that the FAC and LC are not relevant to players in Europe or from South America. You hear it all the time, even from players who aren't considered top level, 'I want to go to a club in the CL'. And that is a sad reflection on the state of football today. The FA should have done a better job in supporting their own cups and ensuring, as FIFA do with International Competitions, that strong sides are fielded by all teams, but this has gone on for years now and the cups are now simply less important to the clubs than to the fans.