Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch

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Maybe he is bitter for not getting points, but you cannot have a go at what he said. A team that had a horrible defense and imbalanced midfield dared to show ambition and go for a win while even after spending so much, all we wanted was a point.
My thoughts exactly.
 

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There's also Mourinho's history of winning trophies. So similarly 45min of negative tactics does not undo his achievements.
Correct but then nobody's arguing anything based on 45 mins. So not sure where you're going with that.

Klopp is just pointing out a reality lots of us can see. This is United now. In a difficult game the instinct is to spoil not create.
 

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City won’t go there praying for a point like we did. That’s the difference. I’d rather play to win and actually have a go. Pretty sure City will dominate the game and win anyway.
You say that now after securing a point, I’m sure you’d feel differently had we lost the game
 

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You say that now after securing a point, I’m sure you’d feel differently had we lost the game
I'm sure before the game almost everyone would have wanted us to have a go. The result doesn't change that.
 

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City won’t go there praying for a point like we did. That’s the difference. I’d rather play to win and actually have a go. Pretty sure City will dominate the game and win anyway.
I think some need to come to terms with the fact that City are still a better team than us this season. If Liverpool score 3 against City, they can score 5 in reply. Not sure we can do that. Yet.

If we do win the league, it will be due to tactics and consistency rather than the quality of our squad over City's. Mourinho said it would take 3 summers to get us to that level, so let's give him the time.

In the meantime, be happy we are progressing in some way.
 

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It's like Klopp never saw the Benitez vintage Liverpool, or the days of Houllier and Thompson... Never mind the 80s and the pass back specialists!
 

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This thread has gone down the gutter.

Klopp once more manages to demonstrate that he only has one page in his tactical book and his brilliant heavy metal football couldn‘t break down the worst performing Utd this season. Yet almost every post is complaining about Mourinho.

Back on track: Klopp is so one dimensional, so tactically inept, so overrated, his excuses week in, week out are as pathetic as his fake humbleness.
Nail on the head.Let him come out to the press and say Liverpool wouldn't be allowed to play like that.Well do you know what Klopp, we came to Anfield,played like absolute shite and walked away with a point.De Gea did what he is supposed to do and really for all their shots at goal he only really made one proper save from Matip.

Lukaku should have buried his chance and we should have walked away with all 3 points.Mourinho's plan almost worked perfectly but for the fact that for 90 minutes we could hardly string a couple of passes together.I would say the players fecked up there not Mourinho.He had a gameplan for Anfield and it worked whereas Klopp stuck to the only thing he knows, was to scared to give up his 3 in midfield(probably because he knows how shite his backline is)and if anything made the last 20 minutes even more comfortable for us by taking off his better forward players for Ox,Sturridge and Solanki.
 

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Well he did to a certain degree. we play like that during the big games away only and as i said, even Sir Alex used these tactics before.
Ferguson could be defensive, same as benitez, but not like this. I don't know of any top manager who would approach a game like this where defending is the only strategy on the table.
 

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Ferguson could be defensive, same as benitez, but not like this. I don't know of any top manager who would approach a game like this where defending is the only strategy on the table.
We play different strategies week in week out taking lots of factors into account. It‘s Klopp and your bunch that only have and only use one strategy all the bloody time. One trick pony on groundhog day.
 

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We play different strategies week in week out taking lots of factors into account. It‘s Klopp and your bunch that only have and only use one strategy all the bloody time. One trick pony on groundhog day.
I get really wound up by Jurgen Klopp but insulting Liverpool like this seems to be beneath us. We've spent about 230 million more than them since he's been there pretty much. We should be ahead of them.
 

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I get really wound up by Jurgen Klopp but insulting Liverpool like this seems to be beneath us. We've spent about 230 million more than them since he's been there pretty much. We should be ahead of them.
We're 2nd, blowing away teams in the Champions League again and have just won two trophies, one of them being a European one.

Liverpool haven't won a pot in over a decade and are 8th.

I'd say we are ahead.
 

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Klopp is always looking for someone to blame for his teams failings. Maybe he should just look at himself. Yes, we could have done more to win the game, but Jurgen so could you and you didn't. You were the home side.
 

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Ferguson could be defensive, same as benitez, but not like this. I don't know of any top manager who would approach a game like this where defending is the only strategy on the table.
Benitez was an incredibly defensive manager. As defensive as Jose.

You'd always come to Old Trafford under him and just try for the point. The 4-1 fluke in 2009 was the one exception.
 

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Klopp couldn't beat a United team playing poorly on home ground. The reason Liverpool often don't play defensively is because their defense is shite......which is why they don't win anything.
 

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I wouldn’t want us to play like that even at Old Trafford. I watch football for entertainment and I like to see my team attack, I would hate to see Mane and Salah playing as secondary full backs given their talent, the same applies to you with Martial and Rashford, you want them higher up the pitch running at defenders or into space.
Fair points mate. Was hugely frustrating watching yesterday.
 

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Disagree - when has a Mourinho team gone out and attacked a rival away from home. He is a highly successful and conservative tactical manager. It has worked well in his career - why change it now.
His first Chelsea team won 3-1 at United and 4-1 at Liverpool. His second Chelsea team best City in his first season back and almost won at both Manchester clubs in his second. This fetish for negativity is a recent thing.
 

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I wouldn’t want us to play like that even at Old Trafford. I watch football for entertainment and I like to see my team attack, I would hate to see Mane and Salah playing as secondary full backs given their talent, the same applies to you with Martial and Rashford, you want them higher up the pitch running at defenders or into space.
You must have hated watching your team under Benitez then, with Riise and Kuyt on either wing.
 

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Jurgen "can't win tournament finals" Klopp really could do with taking a few leaves or branches or even trees out of Jose's book.
 

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His first Chelsea team won 3-1 at United and 4-1 at Liverpool. His second Chelsea team best City in his first season back and almost won at both Manchester clubs in his second. This fetish for negativity is a recent thing.
He probably set the team up to not lose and play on the counter yet scored early so game opened up. Nothing to do with being an attacking manager. It's just the way it is and been very successful.
 

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It's so nice to see some Liverpool fans are so concerned about United and how we play. Not a single word about Liverpool and the state they're in right now. I guess talking about United and how we played yesterday makes them feel better.
 

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He probably set the team up to not lose and play on the counter yet scored early so game opened up. Nothing to do with being an attacking manager. It's just the way it is and been very successful.
Do you remember those games? I mean did he win all of them by wanting not to lose and scoring early? I don't remember so just asking. It's so good to set up to not lose and then win for instance 4-1.
 

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It's so nice to see some Liverpool fans are so concerned about United and how we play. Not a single word about Liverpool and the state they're in right now. I guess talking about United and how we played yesterday makes them feel better.
Klopp likes to disguise his own failings by constantly criticising opposition players, officials, media.

FFS he was on Sky talking about how we play, and how to counter us.:rolleyes:
 

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Klopp likes to disguise his own failings by constantly criticising opposition players, officials, media.

FFS he was on Sky talking about how we play, and how to counter us.:rolleyes:
And his fans are taking it as a gospel.
He's a bit obsessed with us it seems. How dare we not play like he wanted to and hoped.
 

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I have never though I come to despise him even though he is Liverpool manager but feck me he is such annoying and bitter cnut
 

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Correct but then nobody's arguing anything based on 45 mins. So not sure where you're going with that.

Klopp is just pointing out a reality lots of us can see. This is United now. In a difficult game the instinct is to spoil not create.
Nonsense! He's trying to create a narrative that Liverpool play the right way, the only way, and anything else is unacceptable at Liverpool.

He's then suggesting that United don't hold the same high standards they do, and it's more important than winning anything.

It's another pathetic, pandering, dig and more deflective nonsense from yesterday's man (if not last week's).
 
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Until reading a few replies in this thread, it hadn't occurred to me just how poor his/their recent run of results has been. Since walloping Arsenal back in late August, it stands as:

Manchester City 5-0 Liverpool
Liverpool 2-2 Sevilla
Liverpool 1-1 Burnley

Leicester 2-0 Liverpool
Leicester 2-3 Liverpool
Spartak Moscow 1-1 Liverpool
Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool
Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United


For all of the criticism United may deserve for the performance yesterday, what way is it that he is playing and why is that okay.

Rhetorical question - it's the Liverpool dreamworld and everything is okay as long as the manager panders to them about how great the club is.
 

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Until reading a few replies in this thread, it hadn't occurred to me just how poor his/their recent run of results has been. Since walloping Arsenal back in late August, it stands as:

Manchester City 5-0 Liverpool
Liverpool 2-2 Sevilla
Liverpool 1-1 Burnley

Leicester 2-0 Liverpool
Leicester 2-3 Liverpool
Spartak Moscow 1-1 Liverpool
Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool
Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United


For all of the criticism United may deserve for the performance yesterday, what way is it that he is playing and why is that okay.

Rhetorical question - it's the Liverpool dreamworld and everything is okay as long as the manager panders to them about how great the club is.
Even that solitary win shouldn’t have been.

Mourinho could really go to town on him if he wanted to, but so far has bitten his tongue. It’s like Wenger all over again but with even worse results.

They’ve got Spurs next. Could get even uglier for them.
 

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Yeah its because they can only play one way that they got shown up by City...and are currently in 8th! If they had a bit of defensive fight and learnt how to soak up pressure when the need called for it they wouldn't have been battered like that. So they can keep their football and we keep our trophies!
 

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Not worried about his quotes. Klopp's Liverpool can force us to attack by scoring a goal or two.

Whilst I'd have liked us to have been more adventurous yesterday, I'd never want us to go all guns blazing and play right into their hands. It is a positive that Klopp is frustrated though - Mourinho's done it 3 times to him now. Only cranks up the pressure on Klopp as yesterday's result hurts them more than us.
 

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eh it's just pedantic at this point.
If Klopp made comments like " 8th wonder of the world " or " I have no bench " he'd be derided for it and called bitter/clueless etc.
Don't really get all the faux aggro it's not like it's a rivalry that needs further stoking.

It's part and parcel of football i know but it just gets tedious when everyone knows the script because it's been on repeat since the dawn of the game.
 

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Klopp should worry about actually winning trophies, instead of being a serial loser.
 

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Until reading a few replies in this thread, it hadn't occurred to me just how poor his/their recent run of results has been. Since walloping Arsenal back in late August, it stands as:

Manchester City 5-0 Liverpool
Liverpool 2-2 Sevilla
Liverpool 1-1 Burnley

Leicester 2-0 Liverpool
Leicester 2-3 Liverpool
Spartak Moscow 1-1 Liverpool
Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool
Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United


For all of the criticism United may deserve for the performance yesterday, what way is it that he is playing and why is that okay.

Rhetorical question - it's the Liverpool dreamworld and everything is okay as long as the manager panders to them about how great the club is.
One win in 8 but he he has a cheek to criticize us.
 

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Until reading a few replies in this thread, it hadn't occurred to me just how poor his/their recent run of results has been. Since walloping Arsenal back in late August, it stands as:

Manchester City 5-0 Liverpool
Liverpool 2-2 Sevilla
Liverpool 1-1 Burnley

Leicester 2-0 Liverpool
Leicester 2-3 Liverpool
Spartak Moscow 1-1 Liverpool
Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool
Liverpool 0-0 Manchester United


For all of the criticism United may deserve for the performance yesterday, what way is it that he is playing and why is that okay.

Rhetorical question - it's the Liverpool dreamworld and everything is okay as long as the manager panders to them about how great the club is.
And the arsenal win had barely anything to do with them and more to do with us being in a complete shamble just before deadline day with half of the team still looking to move away.
 

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I'm unsure why Klopp didn't take a risk and try and win the game yesterday?

Fact is he equally didn't want to drop any points.
 

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'moral victory' for LFC according to MotD & specifically Jonathan Northcroft of The Times

Klopp & Anfield 'bouncing'

actually win a fecking game, they'll be near unstoppable, :(