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He's no Bilal Ilyas Jhandir
"Man United had two more goals in 70 minutes than me in 700+ minutes"
No they won't? Salah will just have turned 29, Mane also 29 and even Firmino will still be 29.Their front 3 will be 30 by the time the new season starts.
No they won't? Salah will just have turned 29, Mane also 29 and even Firmino will still be 29.
Combined with Alisson at 29, Robertson at 27, TAA at 22, Gomez at 24 and Fabinho at 27. Jota at 24 too if he has replaced Firmino in our starting XI by then. Even if you discount Jota, that's 8 out of 11 starting players who'd still be under 30 by the time the new season starts. Yet some people are acting as if they're all close to retirement ffs.
It will be fun watching a load of 30 year olds trying to play high tempo pressing football Kloppo style. Maybe he is going to change his style and start playing slower possession football .Their front 3 will be 30 by the time the new season starts. Gini, Hendo, Milner, Thiago, VVD, all will be 30 too. That is their core.
My point being, it is not too late. Yes, they will be refreshed. But it is not like that chance has come and gone already. Jota is a step in the right direction.Apologies. Ofcourse they arent in retirement, generally over the years in the PL, strike forces only stay together 2/3 years before they are refreshed.
This might be true yeah, but like I said I'd kinda expect Jota to overtake Firmino by the start of next season. Salah and Mane are so good though that we'd need close to a €100m player to find a replacement that's worthy of starting over them, and we simply don't have that kind of money. Refreshing the forward line step by step is the way to go and Jota instead of Firmino might be the first step.Apologies. Ofcourse they arent in retirement, generally over the years in the PL, strike forces only stay together 2/3 years before they are refreshed.
He was playing better last season for the most part. Jota has been more of a threat up top. Opinions change in football."Firmino cannot be replaced", "unique and fits Liverpool", "more important than Salah" - pool fans one season ago
"Jota to replace Firmino", "Jota to replace Firmino", "Jota to replace Firmino" - pool fans now
But i thought you liked having a no goal striker?
Mane & Salah will be 29. Milner, Gini and Thiago are hardly their core.Their front 3 will be 30 by the time the new season starts. Gini, Hendo, Milner, Thiago, VVD, all will be 30 too. That is their core.
What's up with him ? He's only made like 7 appearances hasn't he ?He was playing better last season for the most part. Jota has been more of a threat up top. Opinions change in football.
Firmino is an enigma. He was brilliant against Spurs and West Ham, then couldn't even pass a ball last night.
No doubt there at all for me.As things stand I think Klopps accomplishments in English football have been more impressive than Guardiolas though
Injured. He's scored 9 goals in 17 appearances so far but the injury he got was pretty bad. Think it happened in our final CL group game so it's Klopp's fault for playing him I guess.What's up with him ? He's only made like 7 appearances hasn't he ?
I will wait for VVD and Jota to return before writing all these semi-obituaries
Surely Klopp is too young to take that job? Feels too early for him.Klopp's next destination will be the German National team.
Agreed and if it weren't for your lot having the wobble you have I'm pretty sure this season would have continued the way it was for CityAlso anyone saying City were in 'transition' last season is giving Pep a free pass for a massive drop off. They weren't in transition, they simply had a bad season. The term 'transition' is often used to excuse a teams success or excuse another teams failure. Sometimes big clubs are but Pep doesn't get that excuse for last season.
It definitely looked like that going into the middle of December. Funny how quickly football changes.Agreed and if it weren't for your lot having the wobble you have I'm pretty sure this season would have continued the way it was for City
It's only due to your lot giving them a sniff of the title again that's refocused them, mentally they were done
Definitely could do with some top drawer youth supporting these guys though. The fullbacks for sure tick those boxes but I can't see any attackers or midfielders that are going to move up a level or two for you guys. Jones looks fairly decent... but that's it right?No they won't? Salah will just have turned 29, Mane also 29 and even Firmino will still be 29.
Combined with Alisson at 29, Robertson at 27, TAA at 22, Gomez at 24 and Fabinho at 27. Jota at 24 too if he has replaced Firmino in our starting XI by then. Even if you discount Jota, that's 8 out of 11 starting players who'd still be under 30 by the time the new season starts. Yet some people are acting as if they're all close to retirement ffs. Only Van Dijk, Henderson and our remaining midfielder would be over 30.
That's also without any additional (young) signings. We might need an injection of quality here and there but let's not pretend this team already needs a true overhaul. There's easily 2-3 years left in them.
No and neither do theySo you think we can still win the title then?
This is just bizarre. "Almost a PL title" means feck all. Benitez has achieved less than 50% of what Klopp has at Liverpool, he doesn't even come close.
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Guardiola: “He made a mistake. We had two months off. Three months. No... four months. That’s why we’re in the top four. Jurgen has to see the calendar again. Tomorrow when I see Jurgen I will tell him how many days we have off. I’m surprised, I didn’t expect that from Jurgen.”
I think the simple fact of the matter is that Guardiola's time at City has been something of a failure so far. They were already the dominant team in the country, and, whilst they were in need of some severe surgery, they had unlimited cash and a good infrastructure to carry that out. Guardiola's taken that domestic domination even further, but the trophy that they really want has eluded him as it did at Bayern. Until, god forbid, they get that Champion's League trophy Klopp's job at Liverpool has been far better.Klopp spent money that Liverpool got from selling very smartly for great prices. Pep gets his money handed to him from the human rights abusers that own City.
Liverpool were also at a much much lower ebb when Klopp took over as compared to when Guardiola took over at City, the City board were basically paving the way for Pep's arrival for years anyway.
Klopps also been to a Champions league final and won the trophy. Guardiola hasn't even been past the 1/4s at City, and look at the list of teams they've been knocked out by, Monaco, Spurs, Lyon. They've not even gotten close to winning it.
I don't like defending Klopp here but i think he's done by far a better job. I think Klopp would have more or less matched what Guardiola has at City, maybe not as many League Cups, but I don't know if Guardiola would have built a team and matched Klopps success at Liverpool.
How so? the fixtures have been very kind to them.To be fair this is about the only time he has ever been correct.
Please go back to my post, re-read it, where I said I believe Klopp is a better manager and had more success. However, my point is, I believe the success Benitez has had at Liverpool is comparable to the success Klopp has had. Not as good, but still, comparable. Klopp has been more successful, yes, but I do think it's comparable. Both lifting the CL, the super cup, Benitez lifting the FA cup, Klopp the PL. Let me re-iterate so you don't take offence - I believe Klopp has been more successful, but I find it very fickle to dismiss one of your best managers in the your recent history, in an attempt to defend your current, under-fire manager.I can't really help you if you think Benitez and Klopp are comparable. We'd have two titles if we weren't up against Pep but Benitez is almost as good because he almost won it? Ask any person on this forum if they genuinely think Benitez is even half the manager Klopp is. You know that's nonsense.
I don't care about injuries. Your line-up v's Aston Villa had Gomez, VVD, Robertson, TAA, Wijnaldum, Keita, Fabinho, new signing Jota, Salah, Firmino, you had the likes of Henderson, Jones on the bench.... is that down to injuries? This arrogant notion that you'd be top of the league or whatever if you didn't have injuries is nonsense. My mate at work actually deluded himself to the point that he thought you'd already lost VVD and Gomez to injury when you played Villa.... it's laughable. Your form had already dipped after you secured the title, and it wasn't at title hangover, which we've now seen. Stop moaning about injuries. United How would Brighton cope with more injuries than Liverpool, when they play Liverpool? Funny that, isn't it, they outplayed you and beat you. Do you see an entire fanbase over at Brighton crying that they'd be doing much better if they had less injuries? No. Burnley, Newcastle, would LOVE to have a squad like yours, West Brom? Come on. Stop blaming injuries. You have to beat the inferior teams if you want to win a league.Every team gets injuries but how would City or United cope with long term injuries to their first choice CB's? City ended up 20 points behind us in January last season because they lost Laporte. Do you think United would be in the title conversation without Maguire and Lindelof or Bailly all season? It's had a spill over effect because we've had to take Fabinho out of midfield completely and place others in his role. We've even had Henderson playing in defense recently and Milner playing four games in 12 days. Injuries have impacted us this season.
You should have replaced VVD & Gomez on January 1st, not wait till deadline day because Matip was out. Signing two unproven CB's on deadline day to go with your two unproven CB's you already have, is a mistake.On the signing CB's, we weren't going to at all until Matip was ruled out for the season. His injury forced our hand and money isn't readily available to clubs at all times. Every club has been hit by Covid and has had to reassess their options. I do think we made a mistake not replacing Lovren like City did not replacing Kompany in 2019.
Yep. Im still not comfortable with how they got the Everton game posponed.To be fair this is about the only time he has ever been correct. I know the bellend is trying to effect mind games like he did with us and the refs but City played the system, like they always have done since they financially doped their way to getting where they are today.
But I guess a broken clock is right twice a day
The guy can't stop complaining and moaning. It's getting tiresome and boring. Complains about this, complains about that. Just shut up.Tweet
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"City had two weeks break" - it was actually 8 days.
8 days is what Pool had between 19 - 27 Dec. A two week break. They then had comfortably the longest rest out of any teams during the festive period. 19th, 27th, 30th, 4th - 4 games in 16 days. In the same period United played 17th, 20th, 23rd, 26th, 29th, 1st - 6 games in 15 days. While other teams were dealt hectic festive schedules, Pool were basically handed the perfect schedule with lots of rest and recovery between games.
9 days is what Pool had between 8 - 17 Jan. Another two week break. But that was only the beginning. Klopp then won the jackpot because the cup game on 8 Jan was against Villa U16s. A perfect opportunity to give his main players an actual "two week break" between 4 - 17 Jan but no... he chose to field a strong team. Fair enough if you field a strong team because you want to keep up momentum and match sharpness. But to then have the audacity a few weeks later to whinge about "bohoo we haven't had a break" is utterly ridiculous.
And don't even let me get started on the extra month of rest and pre season they had over United and City at the beginning of the season. Pool were at optimal fitness when the season started in mid September. United and City didn't reach that stage until early/mid November. Pool were basically gifted a 4-5 game head start on their main two rivals. And they bottled it - in true scouse boom-bust fashion.
Victim mentality is strong with goofy. Hypocrite twat.
I just wish someone pointed it out to him. They had a 3 week break before the season and started pre season when us and City were in Europe. They had fresh players to chose from along with 2 new signings.Tweet
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"City had two weeks break" - it was actually 8 days.
8 days is what Pool had between 19 - 27 Dec. A two week break. They then had comfortably the longest rest out of any teams during the festive period. 19th, 27th, 30th, 4th - 4 games in 16 days. In the same period United played 17th, 20th, 23rd, 26th, 29th, 1st - 6 games in 15 days. While other teams were dealt hectic festive schedules, Pool were basically handed the perfect schedule with lots of rest and recovery between games.
9 days is what Pool had between 8 - 17 Jan. Another two week break. But that was only the beginning. Klopp then won the jackpot because the cup game on 8 Jan was against Villa U16s. A perfect opportunity to give his main players an actual "two week break" between 4 - 17 Jan but no... he chose to field a strong team. Fair enough if you field a strong team because you want to keep up momentum and match sharpness. But to then have the audacity a few weeks later to whinge about "bohoo we haven't had a break" is utterly ridiculous.
And don't even let me get started on the extra month of rest and pre season they had over United and City at the beginning of the season. Pool were at optimal fitness when the season started in mid September. United and City didn't reach that stage until early/mid November. Pool were basically gifted a 4-5 game head start on their main two rivals. And they bottled it - in true scouse boom-bust fashion.
Victim mentality is strong with goofy. Hypocrite twat.
Excellent. Wish someone tell him straight on his face. Hope the cafe account tweets about it.Tweet
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"City had two weeks break" - it was actually 8 days.
8 days is what Pool had between 19 - 27 Dec. A two week break. They then had comfortably the longest rest out of any teams during the festive period. 19th, 27th, 30th, 4th - 4 games in 16 days. In the same period United played 17th, 20th, 23rd, 26th, 29th, 1st - 6 games in 15 days. While other teams were dealt hectic festive schedules, Pool were basically handed the perfect schedule with lots of rest and recovery between games.
9 days is what Pool had between 8 - 17 Jan. Another two week break. But that was only the beginning. Klopp then won the jackpot because the cup game on 8 Jan was against Villa U16s. A perfect opportunity to give his main players an actual "two week break" between 4 - 17 Jan but no... he chose to field a strong team. Fair enough if you field a strong team because you want to keep up momentum and match sharpness. But to then have the audacity a few weeks later to whinge about "bohoo we haven't had a break" is utterly ridiculous.
And don't even let me get started on the extra month of rest and pre season they had over United and City at the beginning of the season. Pool were at optimal fitness when the season started in mid September. United and City didn't reach that stage until early/mid November. Pool were basically gifted a 4-5 game head start on their main two rivals. And they bottled it - in true scouse boom-bust fashion.
Victim mentality is strong with goofy. Hypocrite twat.