Kieran McKenna as our next assistant manager| Simon Stone confirms the promotion

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If he's genuinely got potential as a manager I'd love for us to groom him for the job given the rave reviews he's been receiving for the attacking football of the U18s.
 

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Fair play to him, difficult to see him having any real impact on José's outdated tactics, but here's hoping.
 

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What’s modern about Carrick? He has played under older managers his whole life. He isn’t going to suddenly have a ‘modern’ outlook on things. Whatever ‘modern’ means anyway.
We are hoping that he can bring in the knowledge from the Fergie days and playing with super star balon dor winners. Much like a former Barcelona DM (Pep) did when he became manager. Pep took the methods of Johan Cruyff and amplified them and tweaked them to his own style. Imagine Carrick did that too?
 

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We are hoping that he can bring in the knowledge from the Fergie days and playing with super star balon dor winners. Much like a former Barcelona DM (Pep) did when he became manager. Pep took the methods of Johan Cruyff and amplified them and tweaked them to his own style. Imagine Carrick did that too?
Playing with superstar balon dir winner? You mean ronaldo? I got nothing against carrick but jose coached ronaldo himself not long ago.
 

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What’s modern about Carrick? He has played under older managers his whole life. He isn’t going to suddenly have a ‘modern’ outlook on things. Whatever ‘modern’ means anyway.
Modern is just the phrase many here used for anyone but jose. Pep poch klopp jardim sarni allegri tuchel all falls under modern manager while jose is an outdated dinosaur.
 

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Still think he should've stayed with the18s, at least for now, because if Mourinho leaves next season and let's be honest it's 50/50 that he will his backroom staff will leave with him and it's unlikely that KM will be invited back by the new Manager to coach in the Academy again.

Best of British to him though in his new role.
 

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Still think he should've stayed with the18s, at least for now, because if Mourinho leaves next season and let's be honest it's 50/50 that he will his backroom staff will leave with him and it's unlikely that KM will be invited back by the new Manager to coach in the Academy again.

Best of British to him though in his new role.
Who's saying he won't be asked to step in as the manager if Jose is sacked during the season? Won't get a better chance to impress than that!
 

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Still think he should've stayed with the18s, at least for now, because if Mourinho leaves next season and let's be honest it's 50/50 that he will his backroom staff will leave with him and it's unlikely that KM will be invited back by the new Manager to coach in the Academy again.

Best of British to him though in his new role.
The manager doesn't pick the academy coaches so I doubt Nicky Butt or the club would give a feck if a new manager invites him or not.
 

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Modern is just the phrase many here used for anyone but jose. Pep poch klopp jardim sarni allegri tuchel all falls under modern manager while jose is an outdated dinosaur.
5 managers have won the PL title since Sir Alex retired:

- Manuel Pellegrino
-Jose Mourinho
-Claudio Raneri
-Antonio Conte
-Pep Guardiola

That's within the last 5 years. Are they all outdated or is it just Jose Mourinho?
 

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Modern is just the phrase many here used for anyone but jose. Pep poch klopp jardim sarni allegri tuchel all falls under modern manager while jose is an outdated dinosaur.
Modern is an empty phrase, but if you use other adjectives like "attacking", you see that everyone one that list fits the bill (except for Allegri, his teams are quite defensive).

It is Jose's fault that he only knows how to set up his teams with big lumps like Fellaini or Lukaku up front (see his comments after the FA cup final). The progressiveness of that tactic is seen on the biggest stage, where Mourinho's record in the last few years reads like that of a Championship manager struggling in a division clearly above his level.
 

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Modern is an empty phrase, but if you use other adjectives like "attacking", you see that everyone one that list fits the bill (except for Allegri, his teams are quite defensive).

It is Jose's fault that he only knows how to set up his teams with big lumps like Fellaini or Lukaku up front (see his comments after the FA cup final). The progressiveness of that tactic is seen on the biggest stage, where Mourinho's record in the last few years reads like that of a Championship manager struggling in a division clearly above his level.
"Modern" seems to be synonymous with the high block, quick tempo, pressing style favoured by Guardiola, Tuchel, Klopp, Sarri, Pochettino etc.

This is distinct from the 'old' style managerial tropes of the free-flowing laissez-faire kindly uncle (Ancelotti, Wenger, Zidane etc) and the hard-nosed tactical disciplinarian (Mourinho, Conte, Benitez etc). These guys are all "dinosaurs".
 

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Who's saying he won't be asked to step in as the manager if Jose is sacked during the season? Won't get a better chance to impress than that!
Give it to Mcksy!!! Nope, it doesn't work.:)
 

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5 managers have won the PL title since Sir Alex retired:

- Manuel Pellegrino
-Jose Mourinho
-Claudio Raneri
-Antonio Conte
-Pep Guardiola

That's within the last 5 years. Are they all outdated or is it just Jose Mourinho?
Just Jose Mourinho because he is our manager and we havent won the league and Liverpool six times la and City and Pep and and and
 

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5 managers have won the PL title since Sir Alex retired:

- Manuel Pellegrino
-Jose Mourinho
-Claudio Raneri
-Antonio Conte
-Pep Guardiola

That's within the last 5 years. Are they all outdated or is it just Jose Mourinho?
Of course Jose is the only dinosour on this list
 

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Top 4 would be generous. I mean, how a team that emphasized on fast wingers, attacking fullbacks, and skillful striker could survive in this League? That's just ridiculous.
 

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We are hoping that he can bring in the knowledge from the Fergie days and playing with super star balon dor winners. Much like a former Barcelona DM (Pep) did when he became manager. Pep took the methods of Johan Cruyff and amplified them and tweaked them to his own style. Imagine Carrick did that too?
Fergie didn’t really have a modern outlook though did he? His ways were quite traditional.

He meant that Sir Alex wouldn't be able to compete with "modern" managers.
No, that’s not what I meant at all.

He's literally JUST retired, and JUST started doing his coaching badges within the last few years, how much more modern can you get than that FFS :lol:

he's his own man, i'm sure he has plenty of MODERN ideas to bring to the table.
Like what? There is an over emphasis on what is supposed to be ‘modern’. A lot of his ideas will be based of things he has seen under Fergie for example.
 

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Fergie didn’t really have a modern outlook though did he? His ways were quite traditional.



No, that’s not what I meant at all.



Like what? There is an over emphasis on what is supposed to be ‘modern’. A lot of his ideas will be based of things he has seen under Fergie for example.
Well that depends what he decides to take from it, it is well versed that Fergie delegated a lot. If there is any thing he should take from Sir Alex it should be his man-management, mentality etc... Tactically he was there when we came-up short versus Barca, so he knows that there was and will always be room for improvement, and if he is obsessed with SAF he knows how the great man had to adapt himself.

I don't know why people assume our players are dim or that a person doesn't have the capacity to learn.
 

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Well that depends what he decides to take from it, it is well versed that Fergie delegated a lot. If there is any thing he should take from Sir Alex it should be his man-management, mentality etc... Tactically he was there when we came-up short versus Barca, so he knows that there was and will always be room for improvement, and if he is obsessed with SAF he knows how the great man had to adapt himself.

I don't know why people assume our players are dim or that a person doesn't have the capacity to learn.
Of course they have the capacity to learn, I just think people over emphasise on ‘modern’ coaching in general.
 

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Who's saying he won't be asked to step in as the manager if Jose is sacked during the season? Won't get a better chance to impress than that!
It would be a great story but it would probably be too much of a gamble for a club the size of United and the demanding fanbase, if we did decide to go down that route unlikely as it is i'd think Michael Carrick(providing he get's his badges)would get the chance first. Based on nothing.
 

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I think this is exciting. Good luck to him.

He must have some ideas because managing Spurs' academy side, United's top academy side and being part of Jose Mourinho's back room team at the age of 32 can't be a doddle.