His best at Club level has been with Chelsea deploying three CB's formations and with Leicester where they completely played on counter while ceding possession .
So this notion he actually allows extra attacker doesn't hold much substance .
Kimmich or Kante?
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So this notion he actually allows extra attacker doesn't hold much substance .
Yeah seriously disagree with that. Just because Kante isn’t dropping super deep and sitting around all the time doesn’t mean he’s not a DM.
I'd take Kante. Kimmich positionally looked all over the place for Germany. In the end Bayern was better when Thiago was playing there instead of him. For sure him and Goretzka in the middle of the pitch are a strong partnership, but Kimmich simply doesn't have the first touch like e.g. Thiago has.
Kante has been the best number 6 in the world and can screen the back 4 without any babysitting. He enables someone like Pogba. Kimmich can't do that on that level. Kimmich is a very good player, but more a jack of all trades and i learned the hard way that a specialist in that position is the better choice.
Kante has been the best number 6 in the world and can screen the back 4 without any babysitting. He enables someone like Pogba. Kimmich can't do that on that level. Kimmich is a very good player, but more a jack of all trades and i learned the hard way that a specialist in that position is the better choice.
Kante is a very limited footballer that adds little to nothing to his team going forward, you cant be the best 6 in the world with his limited skillset.
Depends how I want to play.
Defensive approach: Kante
Offensive approach: Kimmich
If I only have one choice: Kimmich
As for Thiago: He barely played in the second half of the season, Kimmich and Goretzka were the main engine of that CL winning Bayern team. Thiago played the CL finale, cause Pavard was injured (although Thiago have had his best performance for Bayern this game), otherwise he would've started on the bench. That's one of the reasons he wanted to leave, cause he lost his starting spot.
I like Thiago as a player, but I still think he's overrated. He needs 4 underwhealming/average matches to play a worldclass one. I guess thats why Liverpool fans are pretty much disappointed with him, cause he's doing all this wonderful stuff on youtube compilations, but in "real time" you only see it occasionally
Defensive approach: Kante
Offensive approach: Kimmich
If I only have one choice: Kimmich
Tbf, every german player looked all over the place the last years under Löw. I wouldnt compare any national team performance with club performance in this case. Also, Kimmich often played right back for Germany (in the Euros too).
As for Thiago: He barely played in the second half of the season, Kimmich and Goretzka were the main engine of that CL winning Bayern team. Thiago played the CL finale, cause Pavard was injured (although Thiago have had his best performance for Bayern this game), otherwise he would've started on the bench. That's one of the reasons he wanted to leave, cause he lost his starting spot.
I like Thiago as a player, but I still think he's overrated. He needs 4 underwhealming/average matches to play a worldclass one. I guess thats why Liverpool fans are pretty much disappointed with him, cause he's doing all this wonderful stuff on youtube compilations, but in "real time" you only see it occasionally
Kimmich is a far superior player, Kante is great as what he does but Kimmich can play multiple positions at the highest level.
Kanté is brilliant, but I’m a huge Kimmich’s fan boy.
Shouldn’t be a question. Kimmich, more all round.
Apples and oranges. Now, you put both of them in a midfield and it'd be a sight to behold.
Kimmich is better.
Kante is brilliant at running around and being a defensive nuisance but that's about it. Kimmich can do that as well but he's also extremely good technically.
Kante is brilliant at running around and being a defensive nuisance but that's about it. Kimmich can do that as well but he's also extremely good technically.
Love Kimmich, one of my favourite players. I’m a big fan of any defensive players that is quality on the ball.
Kimmich but don't think he peaks as high as Kante in some of the top matches, but Kimmich. He is the best midfielder in the world in my book. Better than de Bruyne, Bruno, Gundogan, Kante, Frenkie although all different players. He is amazing.
I like Yozua Kimmikh
Both are quality, both are winners, both have their own strengths and qualities. This year in club football Kante performed extremely well in UCL semifinals and final, so for the moment Kante edges it for me
Kimmich is arguably the best all round midfielder in the world, so him
It’s not called a system if the mananger chooses 11 players and draw FM-arrows on a board before they go out on the pitch. That’s just… something.
Depends what you need. If it’s a question of influence over the last five years, I’d go Kante.
Kimmich the better overall player but Kante a better specialist in his role.
The thing I admire most about Kimmich is not his technical skill, his abilities on the pitch, his many qualities when it comes to different positions, but his fecking will to win. He's talented, sure, but he wouldn't be half the football player if he had 5% less desire to be the best.
I'd take Kimmich every day over every other midfielder in the world, because his perfect attitude paired with his qualities as a footballer combined are something that's very rare. It's really one of the few modern football players I admire. He's in it with his heart and everything he's got, it's such a refreshing sight compared to many other elite football players.
I'd take Kimmich every day over every other midfielder in the world, because his perfect attitude paired with his qualities as a footballer combined are something that's very rare. It's really one of the few modern football players I admire. He's in it with his heart and everything he's got, it's such a refreshing sight compared to many other elite football players.
Someone called Kimmich a luxury player in this thread and I...
Anyway, Kimmich
Anyway, Kimmich
Football is still a team game, one player doesn't have to do everything. Furthermore he's a bit underrated when on the ball. His dynamism and running with the ball can still make him a valuable asset when the team is going forward. There have been coaches in the past who trusted him further up the pitch.
For example, Thiago played absolutely worldclass against Chelsea. Chelsea players didn't get a sniff and Thiago was everywhere on the field, i'd like to point out how good his tacklings were in those games.
This season, Bayern lost a lot of their dominance on and off the ball. This Bayern team was tailor made for Thiago and his excellent close control. A bit like Madrid and Ronaldo were a match made in heaven. Kimmich doesn't have the positional sense Thiago has and his close control is a hell lot worse. This is one of the main reasons why the back 4 wasn't as protected and leaking goals left right and centre.
In the last weeks of the season Thiago played very well for Liverpool. He's not the best fit but i back him to become a key cog in Klopp's well oiled machine. This has nothing to do with YT compilations. He's just one of the best players in the world.
Strange that Fernandinho gets praised so highly but no mention of Casemiro who always benched him for Brazil when Fernandinho was in top form.
They would probably make for a badass double pivot in a 4-2-3-1.
Kante is the better "destroyer". Kimmich is the more complete midfielder, more versatile and a better leader.
Kimmich
That is true, and that's what I ment. He HAS world class games. But apart from that, how were the other games going for him? Look at his statistics. In 24 games he shot 1 goal... no assists, more fouls than tackles, won around 50% of duels (which is just average), lost a lot of balls,...Mourinhonista said:
Hell, he was considered "flop of the season" by many sources. Even Pools own fans didnt want so see him anymore. Until March(?) Liverpool didnt win a single game when he started, his win rate was under 30% at that time (when he came from the bench). I watched a lot of Liverpool games because of him (and Klopp) and in my opinion this was one of the worst seasons in his career. One or two good games - and that's it!
He has a lot of potential, but is extremely inconsistent.
As I said before, Thiago wasn't even a starter when Bayern was most dominant. Kimmich und Goretzka were the center part of the team.
The loss of dominance had other reasons (too MANY good players leaving, not just Thiago).
Let's see if he can keep his form. Playing a good 2-3 weeks isn't enough. He CAN be one the best players in the world. But right now? Not even close.
(Off Topic by the way... we should leave this thread :P)
Nonsense. While not possessing the touch of a Thiago or Messi, Kante is actually technically sound. You calling him a “limited footballer” shows you really don’t watch him enough
Kante.
I have seen him play many times, when you compare him to Kimmich or Thiago, he is very limited on the ball, but hes great defensively.
Is Kante getting the Modric hate treatment or Cafe has always been cynical towards universally loved players 
, like this is all fake, he is an asshole in reality.
, like this is all fake, he is an asshole in reality.What did Kante do to you? Very harsh assessment and completely off the mark
He literally wins the ball high up the pitch beating the opposition midfield and exposes the defence. No one else does it as well as Kante which makes him priceless.
Ffs even ref was pissed with that sarcastic blowing of the final whistle.
Kimmte.
Maguire is better.
The guy the majority on here don’t watch week in week out is obviously going to win. If he is so fantastic why did Lowe play him as a RB? Maybe there are flaws to his game, just like Kante has flaws, that the majority here don’t see because they don’t see him play week in week out.
I can’t comment on Kimmich but Kante is unique and he allows you to play a luxury player without much drop off defensively collectively. That is huge.
I can’t comment on Kimmich but Kante is unique and he allows you to play a luxury player without much drop off defensively collectively. That is huge.
they’d make a fantastic pair that’s for sure.
Kimmich is the better footballer but Kante edges it defensively.
You’d have both.
Kimmich is the better footballer but Kante edges it defensively.
You’d have both.
Dumbest thread on this forum.
Casemiro is a very good player but I would argue that his benching Fernandinho was unjustified.