Alas, Runner up with a single point gap from the winner is a wee bit different from runner up with a 15 point gap.
He's a funny mix of trophies reduced by a dodgy City regime, yet has come below the last 4 United managers in separate seasons.
I still don't see them getting anything major
Yup, that ball boy was only there because his dad has contacts at the club and he is by all accounts and pampered and smarmy cnut.
You should have stopped typing after this. I’ll never respect anything or anyone to do with that club.
Yeah every game of theirs will be like this until end of the season. Wonder if INEOS could do the unthinkable and persuade someone to cross divide for first time in 60 years. Would you take anyone of them given the opportunity?
Rodgers took a midtable Liverpool team to a slip away from the league title in one season. You make it sound Klopp took over a relegation threatened team.
His first task will be to touch the Liverpool fans the same way Klopp touched them
Salah is definitely gone. The other two will likely renew.
Mentioning Klopp having transition seasons is pointless considering Mourinho got sacked 4 times in the Prem.
His style of football is never going to consistent.
Pep? He's won both in the same season.
Winning the league and the Champions leagues isn't a fluke. You can fluke a cup competition like the fa cup. You might individually get a bit lucky to win a league when everyone else is shit like Leicester. But only great managers and great teams win both the league and the Champions League. Show me a team who have fluked that.
Yeah I put his name. It's just Sir Alex, Pep and Klopp who have built sides who managed to win the league and the CL. They become the top 3 because of that. Mourinho and Wenger failed to do so.
You can one hundred percent fluke a league and CL. Inter were a Lukaku block away from almost doing it last year.
Serie A is not the premier league. And Napoli won the league last year, but regardless inter are an excellent Serie A side relative to serie A teams.
That would not have been a fluke
Right so Di Matteo's CL win was a fluke against Bayern, yet, the best ever team to exist had to only beat Spurs and kept losing to Madrid in other finals.
Why hasn't Klopp done the treble yet like SAF, Pep and Jose?
Are you ignoring that Klopp won the league with 99 points, reached 2 other CL finals and won the CL as well?
Mourinho never did it in the premier league. So take him off the list. We are ranking between Wenger, Mourinho and Klopp, and I'm explaining why Klopp is ahead of the other 2. Of course Klopp isn't on par with Sir Alex and Pep
I would agree with that, and I would add these is a pretty boy gap between klopp and the other 2.
That's fair enough, but I really don't see the point of adding the insults, it doesn't reflect well on anyone.
Yup for sure. The question isn't who is a better manager in football history, or who accomplished more. We're only looking at their impact on premier league clubs. Who managed to achieve the most while managing an English club. So there's no sense in looking at what Mourinho did at Porto or Inter. If you do, then yes, Mourinho is ahead of Klopp in general football terms, but not in English football terms.
Eh I think it'll be pretty smooth. Xabi Alonso will likely go to Liverpool, I'm hoping we go for de Zerbi. We'll likely compete for sporting directors though.
That is absolutely fair enough, and I agree with you.
Possibly, and I wouldn't be unhappy with either. Both have clear visions of their football, and can implement it.
I'll just keep it simple. As it stands, Mourinho has achieved more than Klopp in England. It's upto Klopp to best that.
I would argue while managing an English team Klopp has won more with less.
My point was there is always an element of luck when winning cup finals. Liverpool came up against Spurs and won, would the outcome have been the same if they faced Madrid instead? Yet, here you are downplaying Di Matteo's CL win as a fluke. Luck is required to win cups.
