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That’s the same rhetoric coming out of Serie A when there’s racial abuse in that league. Disgraceful really.
Watching the whole incident and la Liga isn't serious at all. Feel sorry for vini and it's the victim blaming that goes on with commentators and all.
People act like he might be the only annoying person and it deserves racism
It's ridiculous
Watching the whole incident and la Liga isn't serious at all. Feel sorry for vini and it's the victim blaming that goes on with commentators and all.
People act like he might be the only annoying person and it deserves racism
It's ridiculous
Clear m sound there. Enjoy defending racism, it’s a great look for youPeople clearly say silly "tonto" but that wouldn't be news. So better manipulate and those who do not know Spanish believe it.
Sounds like both to me. "Tonto mono" over and over.People clearly say silly "tonto" but that wouldn't be news. So better manipulate and those who do not know Spanish believe it.
There’s clearly people saying bothI'm having trouble separating the two words because whichever one I think of, is the one I'm hearing!
Also, why would anyone chant "silly" anyway?
There’s clearly people saying both
Clear m sound there. Enjoy defending racism, it’s a great look for you
In that tweet people say "silly" and it is a very common chant in Spanish stadiums. It is told when someone receives a stupid card, either for protesting, faking a penalty or pretending for the opponent to receive a card.
It wasn't the first time, nor the second, nor the third. Racism is normal in La Liga. The competition thinks it's normal, the Federation does too and the opponents encourage it. I'm so sorry. The championship that once belonged to Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Cristiano and Messi today belongs to racists. A beautiful nation, which welcomed me and which I love, but which agreed to export the image of a racist country to the world. I'm sorry for the Spaniards who don't agree, but today, in Brazil, Spain is known as a country of racists. And unfortunately, for everything that happens each week, I have no defense. I agree. But I am strong and I will go to the end against racists. Even if far from here.
What they need to do is leave the pitch, until the referees and the league react.
In any case they chant "tonto", not mono. Although yes, surely more than one has called him monkey.
Of course. Highly common. Mostly in case of players whose skin is black. p.s: they were chanting both.
You are reaching milestone after milestone, Mr. Niemass.
What they need to do is leave the pitch, until the referees and the league react.
At first I thought you were disagreeing with me but I completely misread and had to read it again and clearly I'm tired.Racism is the cause ( plus absurd calls not given - which also can be racially motivated ) not the effect. Why do people have such trouble understanding that?
Secondly, even if that was not the case, and Vini was the cause it should be irrelevant considering absolutely nothing should warrant racist response or racism in general.
Absurd right? But it's a sad state of this worldA wise man once said it’s always black people’s reaction to racism that’s on trial.
What they need to do is leave the pitch, until the referees and the league react.
In any case they chant "tonto", not mono. Although yes, surely more than one has called him monkey.
This.What they need to do is leave the pitch, until the referees and the league react.
In any case they chant "tonto", not mono. Although yes, surely more than one has called him monkey.
And even before that Roberto Carlos complained about the Barcelona crowd, saying they called him a monkey and made sounds.Can remember 20 years ago Eto'o left the pitch in a Barca game when he was getting comments and possibly chants directed at him. Also had monkey noises being directed at England players in friendly in I think 2004. That was in an era where Spain had a few black players themselves (Catanha, Marcos Senna and Vincent Engonga). And of course Luis Arangones attempting to motivate Reyes with his description of Henry.
Two decades on....
Agree with @Niemans with his impression that in that video people say "tonto" which is pretty normal indeed, but it's not conclusive of absence of racist chants coming from different part of the fans.
Vinicius seems to be pointing out at someone from the stands closer to the pitch.
EDIT: here I think I hear both "tonto" and "mono". Disgusting really.
Real Madrid player Vinicius was spotted by the referee insulting referee Jose Luis Munuera Montero. "Son of a b**ch, f**k off," the Brazilian international said.
You are a vile and disgusting individualThis league has and had hundreds of POCs in the last decade. Yes, there was always racism here and there, when Alves got a banana thrown at him during a corner for example, but nobody, not one player I can remember was as systematically harassed as Vinicius is. He constantly provokes, insults and dives on the pitch. Even worse than Neymar back in the days. He instults not only the opponent players and fans, but the refs too. And those are not minor insults:
https://www.besoccer.com/new/son-of...us-insults-ref-during-real-madrid-win-1230655
And that's not an individual case. His provocations are also shabby and vile. He tells his opponents and their fans often enough that they're worse than him and they should be relegated. Just watch him leaving the pitch yesterday after a deserved red card.
I repeat, no other POC player ever received such a harassment he does. Yes, the league has a racism problem, but which league hasn't? The PL just removed those kind of people out of the stadium into the pubs by making the tickets unaffordable for most of the lower social class, where racism breeds.Every league has and had problems with racism now and then, because that's the nature of humans. Especially if certain people gather and emotions are envolved. Some more, some less of course.
Is Vinicius a victim of racism? Yes he is. Has he a vile and disgusting character, that provokes such behaviour from certain people? Yes, he has.
This league has and had hundreds of POCs in the last decade. Yes, there was always racism here and there, when Alves got a banana thrown at him during a corner for example, but nobody, not one player I can remember was as systematically harassed as Vinicius is. He constantly provokes, insults and dives on the pitch. Even worse than Neymar back in the days. He instults not only the opponent players and fans, but the refs too. And those are not minor insults:
https://www.besoccer.com/new/son-of...us-insults-ref-during-real-madrid-win-1230655
And that's not an individual case. His provocations are also shabby and vile. He tells his opponents and their fans often enough that they're worse than him and they should be relegated. Just watch him leaving the pitch yesterday after a deserved red card.
I repeat, no other POC player ever received such a harassment he does. Yes, the league has a racism problem, but which league hasn't? The PL just removed those kind of people out of the stadium into the pubs by making the tickets unaffordable for most of the lower social class, where racism breeds.Every league has and had problems with racism now and then, because that's the nature of humans. Especially if certain people gather and emotions are envolved. Some more, some less of course.
Is Vinicius a victim of racism? Yes he is. Has he a vile and disgusting character, that provokes such behaviour from certain people? Yes, he has.
This league has and had hundreds of POCs in the last decade. Yes, there was always racism here and there, when Alves got a banana thrown at him during a corner for example, but nobody, not one player I can remember was as systematically harassed as Vinicius is. He constantly provokes, insults and dives on the pitch. Even worse than Neymar back in the days. He instults not only the opponent players and fans, but the refs too. And those are not minor insults:
https://www.besoccer.com/new/son-of...us-insults-ref-during-real-madrid-win-1230655
And that's not an individual case. His provocations are also shabby and vile. He tells his opponents and their fans often enough that they're worse than him and they should be relegated. Just watch him leaving the pitch yesterday after a deserved red card.
I repeat, no other POC player ever received such a harassment he does. Yes, the league has a racism problem, but which league hasn't? The PL just removed those kind of people out of the stadium into the pubs by making the tickets unaffordable for most of the lower social class, where racism breeds.Every league has and had problems with racism now and then, because that's the nature of humans. Especially if certain people gather and emotions are envolved. Some more, some less of course.
Is Vinicius a victim of racism? Yes he is. Has he a vile and disgusting character, that provokes such behaviour from certain people? Yes, he has.
This league has and had hundreds of POCs in the last decade. Yes, there was always racism here and there, when Alves got a banana thrown at him during a corner for example, but nobody, not one player I can remember was as systematically harassed as Vinicius is. He constantly provokes, insults and dives on the pitch. Even worse than Neymar back in the days. He instults not only the opponent players and fans, but the refs too. And those are not minor insults:
https://www.besoccer.com/new/son-of...us-insults-ref-during-real-madrid-win-1230655
And that's not an individual case. His provocations are also shabby and vile. He tells his opponents and their fans often enough that they're worse than him and they should be relegated. Just watch him leaving the pitch yesterday after a deserved red card.
I repeat, no other POC player ever received such a harassment he does. Yes, the league has a racism problem, but which league hasn't? The PL just removed those kind of people out of the stadium into the pubs by making the tickets unaffordable for most of the lower social class, where racism breeds.Every league has and had problems with racism now and then, because that's the nature of humans. Especially if certain people gather and emotions are envolved. Some more, some less of course.
Is Vinicius a victim of racism? Yes he is. Has he a vile and disgusting character, that provokes such behaviour from certain people? Yes, he has.
Can’t be arsed with the rest of your car crash of a post but “vile and disgusting character”??Is Vinicius a victim of racism? Yes he is. Has he a vile and disgusting character, that provokes such behaviour from certain people? Yes, he has.