Galactic
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legend is like beauty. it lies in the beholder's eyes.
there are fans' legends, media's legend and even rivals' legend.
there are fans' legends, media's legend and even rivals' legend.
thats true but when someone says that Gary Bailey is a legend it does tend to make one question the whole legend thinglegend is like beauty. it lies in the beholder's eyes.
there are fans' legends, media's legend and even rivals' legend.
Charlie Roberts is a definite club legend, as is Johnny Carey, Johnny Berry and Jack Rowley, and probably others that I've failed to mention before coppell, bailey and morrisWhat defines a Manchester United Legend?
I’m currently reading ‘Manchester United – The Biography’ by Jim White. For those who don’t know anything about Untied pre SAF, it’s a great read and helps put into context all the major phases of our clubs history and evolution.
I now understand what older fans mean about Busby when they say that he a took a provincial club, probably no stronger than today’s Sunderland or Newcastle and turned them into the best club in the world. Along the way, he instilled certain values like being a family and backing youth that still resonate and flourish in our culture today.
Likewise, I never knew too much about the post Busby - pre Atkinson phase either and the way the club nose dived after 1968. For me, this makes SAF’s achievements post 1999 even more amazing.
One of the recurring themes of this book is 'what defines a Manchester United legend'? We have not had a proper debate on this for a while so I wanted to get one started over the holiday season.
My definition of a United Legend has several key attributes:
1. He must have tenure at the club
2. He must have played in a significant amount of games
3. He must have made a major contribution to United winning honors
4. His contributions should be for United and NOT what he has achieved at other clubs or within his international career
5. He must be loved by the fans
6. There cannot be any debate that he is a legend
Please do comment on any additional attributes you think exist.
I’ve split my list into 2: Pre SAF and post SAF.
Likewise please give your opinions on the players I have proposed and any that you think are missing with reasons why.
Pre SAF
Billy Meredith
Dennis Violett
Alex Stepney
Duncan Edwards
Pat Crerand
Johnny Morris
Bobby Charlton
George Best
Dennis Law
Steve Coppell
Arthur Albiston
Gary Bailey
Post SAF:
Bryan Robson
Eric Cantona
Mark Hughes
Dennis Irwin
Steve Bruce
Gary Pallister
Peter Schmeichel
Ruud van Nistelrooy
Ole Gunnar Soslkjaer
Ryan Giggs
Roy Keane
Gary Neville
Paul Scholes
Candidates from current squad:
Rio Ferdinand
Cristiano Ronaldo
Wayne Rooney
Carlos Tevez
Scholes and Solskjaer should be added to that list.Only Keano, Cantona, Robson and Giggs are nailed on legends in the Fergie Era.
No. Yes. Maybe. Exiting thread.You don't think Gary Neville is a United legend?
I agree with that!Charlie Roberts is a definite club legend, as is Johnny Carey, Johnny Berry and Jack Rowley, and probably others that I've failed to mention before coppell, bailey and morris
Scholes and Solskjaer should be added to that list.
6ft 2, eyes of blue, big jim holton's after youthats true but when someone says that Gary Bailey is a legend it does tend to make one question the whole legend thing
I used to love watching Jim Holton play and he gave me immense pleasure but I do retain some objectivity and not call him a legend
Definitely yes in my eyesNo. Yes. Maybe. Exiting thread.
no,no,no
if ever a player has been over-feted, it's him!
how he can even be within a whisker of bobby moore's england record amazes me
I was hoping you would have some points that would remind me about performances by Moran that I had forgotten about.As for Moran and legendry status, its just like Beckham and Sparky fans arguing they are all legends, when you get impressed with a player when you're a kid its easy to stick with them.
Me too, and legend is one thing while cult hero is another.thats true but when someone says that Gary Bailey is a legend it does tend to make one question the whole legend thing
I used to love watching Jim Holton play and he gave me immense pleasure but I do retain some objectivity and not call him a legend
What defines a Manchester United Legend?
Candidates from current squad:
Rio Ferdinand
Cristiano Ronaldo
Wayne Rooney
Carlos Tevez
Bad call in hindsight, definitely had the potential at the time
No Paul Scholes and Gary Neville?Only Keano, Cantona, Robson and Giggs are nailed on legends in the Fergie Era.
So you think that Mr Spice girl, who swore at SAF and masterminded his move to plastic Real is a legend?Me personally, I'd take Ruud off that list and put David Beckham in his place. A guy who was with United from he was 14 years old and contributed hugely to our success in the 90's, with 14 winners medals. There's some debate as to whether Becks is a United legend but for me it's not even questionable, he's a United legend in my eyes and always will be