montpelier
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Vardy was outstanding (if very annoying). Proper defence should/would cope a lot better.
fecking wankers. A bit of banter and some people just cant help themselves.Generally calling him a monkey.
How was Evans shocking? The only thing he did questionable was not mark Ulloa for their first goal but that's between him and Rafael letting him go free so not solely his fault.There's only so many poor ref decisions you can overcome. This game was littered with them throughout and all against us. Bizarre performance by him which will as always be forgotten. Still well done to Leicester for being up for it and taking their chances. Looking at the match day thread and ratings I find it strange that DeGea and Blackett are getting so much stick. Blackett was the best in the back line today bar one error in judgement right after being fouled. DeGea had little to no chance with any goal. Evans was shocking again up until he was injured. He worries me the most.
A fair summation. But Jones and Carrick coming back will add a lot of solidity and experience. I just have little faith in anyone staying fit though.Well, I won't jerk my knee, others seem quite able.
This match didn't really tell us anything we don't know. Going forward we look really good. Measured but potent, I was actually disappointed to only score 3. We weren't even reaching top gear going forward but we still created plenty. Lovely movement from players off the ball and up until the penalty we were controlling the game. 3 goals should win you a game, we can hardly ask for more from them.
At the back, awful. Our first choice defenders probably aren't good enough anyway, but we're even denied those. Blackett had a meltdown, Evans goes off injured, Smalling didn't look fit and both our full backs were poor. Hopefully we'll see Shaw next week, who always struck me as a very solid defender. Not sure what we can do about right back though.
We're going to see a lot of this in the coming season. Not conceding 5 necessarily (hopefully anyway), but simply finding that no matter how good our attack is we're going to keep dropping points while we have this defence. Nothing we can do about it now, and probably not much in January. Just have to make the most of what we have and hope our strikers can save us.
I think we must keep in mind that even Patrice Evra and Nemanja Vidic had rather torrid starts.Blind looked very good and composed last week when we were bossing but looked shell-shocked today with the tempo and the pressure. Didn't assert himself at all.
Rojo looks suspect, I must say. Everyone is allowed a bad game but he made such basic errors that it's hard to see him as the man to fix our defence once he gets to play CB.
Rafa will get some unwarranted stick but he had a good game and did nothing wrong for that insult of a penalty.
Falcao showed glimpses of his quality but is far off his best. RvP improved a bit but still doesn't deserve to start over Mata at the moment.
Di Maria makes the rest of our team look completely ordinary.
And LVG has disappointed me so far, sadly. There's a lot of potential in our attack but we'll have to score an absurd amount of goals with such a bad defence.
What a punchable face that guy has.Vardy was outstanding (if very annoying). Proper defence should/would cope a lot better.
Rojo played LB against QPRSums it up nicely. I'm livid at our defence today, although in fairness none of them are world class or belong in the first 11 of one of the biggest clubs in world football. So I'm not sure what LVG can do with them since they are just clearly lacking in ability?
Rojo had a good game at CB against QPR though but was shocking at left back today. We can't properly judge his ability until the end of the season though. I think he can go either way.
fixedHe is not soley to blame, but big decisions change games and he made several...
Yeah fitness is a worry, for our centre backs anyway.A fair summation. But Jones and Carrick coming back will add a lot of solidity and experience. I just have little faith in anyone staying fit though.
Yep I remember that. And he did again a few moments later. What should have happened after the 3-2 goal and the 3-3 goal was that we needed someone to tell everyone to calm down. Rooney shouted at the defenders but no one really took it in.There was a point where Rafael chested the ball down to Herrera in the box when it was 3-3 and despite not having a Leicester player anywhere near him he panicked and hoofed it. That was the point when I knew we were fecked basically.
No composure.
Some of the reactions by our fans on social media are embarrassing. Aside from the racism aimed at Balotelli (who's a fecking idiot for even inviting any abuse in the first place, mind), there's an embarrassing amount of abuse getting directed at some of our own players. Rooney seems to be getting a particularly hard time for some reason.Generally calling him a monkey.
Might be a bit too much weight on young Blackett's shoulders too soon. He's one for the future all right but right now he does not have a commanding presence in the area. It's no wonder DDG is looking a bit exposed. Smalling doesn't have that presence either. Jones does but he's reckless. We have a huge Vidic-shaped hole at the back (not to mention Rio) that should have been taken care of before a ball was kicked this season. I'm surprised that Van Gaal didn't try for Vlaar after his showing in Brazil.How was Evans shocking? The only thing he did questionable was not mark Ulloa for their first goal but that's between him and Rafael letting him go free so not solely his fault.
Blackett was at fault for 2 of the goals. Their 4th he was in no man's land. Should have tracked Vardy instead of what he did or try to push up and play him offside. Then giving away the penalty.
twitter trolls are a very loose definition of "fans".Some of the reactions by our fans on social media are embarrassing. Aside from the racism aimed at Balotelli (who's a fecking idiot for even inviting any abuse in the first place, mind), there's an embarrassing amount of abuse getting directed at some of our own players. Rooney seems to be getting a particularly hard time for some reason.
Completely agree. We looked defensively abject and naive, but we look breathtaking at times going forward. I'll take that over last season any day when we played such dross football and didn't even have the solidity that you usually associate with that type of play.This was obviously pretty bad, but nowhere near as bad as a number of matches last season. We are absolutely fantastic going forward. Something needs to be done about the defence, yes, but it's not as bad as creating feck all, drifting cluelessly through games.
They're basically equivalent to the morons we laugh at in the RAWK meltdown thread. They'll be perceived as fans so they're still an embarrassment as far as I'm concerned.twitter trolls are a very loose definition of "fans".
I feel embarrassment for humanity before I feel embarrassment for United when some moron claiming to be a United fan trolls someone. But looking at replies in twitter is asking to be disgusted unfortunately.They're basically equivalent to the morons we laugh at in the RAWK meltdown thread. They'll be perceived as fans so they're still an embarrassment as far as I'm concerned.
I know, its ironic, how under SAF united we were characterized for our mental strength, will, and resilience. Ever since SAF left the players are showing how mentally fragile, and what a bunch of millionaire wusses they areIt really is unbelievable.
The pen was soft to say the least, but when you are 3-1 up, away from home especially, you close the got damn shop!
Some fat bastards on here alright, you can just tell...I haven't posted on here in about 7 years, even though i visit quite regularly.
Shattered after that result, but i feel there is some overeating on here. I'm confident Van Gaal will get it right, it takes time for a team to gel after so much change.
We looked like we ran out legs after the 60min mark. Van Gaal also mention he did minimal fitness work during pre season and should improve throughout the season.
Our defending was shocking but nothing that can't be fixed.
Overall i'm fairly optimistic for the season ahead and should finish top 4.
The entire game turned on one of the strangest penalty decisions you'll see, but don't expect too much comment in the media, because it was plucky Leicester who benefitted. From that point though, the reaction was pathetic.I am missed the match because of work. Was it just a case of us being to gun ho? I felt that could be a possible issue starting Rooney/RVP/Falcao together.
Yep, after that decision everyone just lost their heads and we were probably too gung ho to get the 2 goal lead back, instead of playing it smart.The entire game turned on one of the strangest penalty decisions you'll see, but don't expect too much comment in the media, because it was plucky Leicester who benefitted. From that point though, there reaction was pathetic.
Summed up perfectly.The entire game turned on one of the strangest penalty decisions you'll see, but don't expect too much comment in the media, because it was plucky Leicester who benefitted. From that point though, there reaction was pathetic.
It's the same way in the papers and on the talk radio. The discussion of a title challenge after our sole victory of the season was obviously foolish and Liverpoolesque, just like an overreaction to today's result would be foolish.This place becomes a hyperbole most of the times. We win one game, we are world beaters and we lose the next one and suddenly we are back to Shite again.
This is what's frustrating, when we went 2-0 up you didn't see Leicester panic, they controlled themselves and got a quick goal back. When they went 3-1 down, again they didn't panic. Yes they got a dodgy penalty, but our attitude after that was very worrying, not just from the defence but from every single player in the team. It's like someone hit the big red panic button.Yep, after that decision everyone just lost their heads and we were probably too gung ho to get the 2 goal lead back, instead of playing it smart.
True. I should really avoid twitter after a defeat like that, but the masochist in me can't resist. A bit like the people I keep on facebook even though every status they post winds me up.I feel embarrassment for humanity before I feel embarrassment for United when some moron claiming to be a United fan trolls someone. But looking at replies in twitter is asking to be disgusted unfortunately.
Mark Clattenburg