A lot of the Welsh do actively hate the English, but plenty are pretty neutral. I'm supporting England at the world cup, and I know plenty of others are too. I remember a lot of my English mates were rooting for Wales at Euro 2016 after England had gone out and I thought that was great.
so champions league games...
People who mix football with politics are weapons. The irish lad with 90k posts needs to calm himself down, you've got plenty to luck forward to lad! You're playing Poland in a friendly in September, you might even scrape a 0-0!
If you're really lucky the DVD will be out by Christmas!!!!
Always bound to happen mate. The English don't just rout for Germany to lose for "footballing reasons" same with Argentina. Both sources of recent conflict. The Germans funny enough don't really see us as a footballing rival, more Holland.People who mix football with politics are weapons. The irish lad with 90k posts needs to calm himself down, you've got plenty to luck forward to lad! You're playing Poland in a friendly in September, you might even scrape a 0-0!
If you're really lucky the DVD will be out by Christmas!!!!
And so we can't declare our patriotism through song? And somehow our national anthem and history is any more vile than the rest? Of course the Kings of Munster or Leinster weren't savagely butchering one another long before the Norman invasion of Ireland. But no, we are all pricks apparently, for singing our national anthem.
No offence man, just throwing a jab at Butthurt McSalt.
A lot of us like to see England and their United players do well.
I feel this is an overspill of tradition more than any genuine ill feeling on a political/historical basis. All seems quite light hearted from where I’m sitting.
If they spit on every inch of "English" (in any sense) ground - sure.
it doesn't go the other way either. Every English fan i know supports Ireland and Wales when England are not playing. I was mad when the Henry handball thing happened to Ireland (think im remembering that correctly). I was rooting for Wales in the last tournment and really wanted to see both teams at this world cup. Scotland not so much
but that is just silly rivallary and for footballing reasons and retaliation for the hatred of the English national team on their part. Its all in Jest really. Fcuk the political nonsense.Yeah, agreed. It’s very typically English. Or it was before virtue-signalling became a thing.
Millennials something something?
I am Irish so I am well aware of our history with MUFC.
As opposed to what every other country did in the past?
Same, have an Irish Dad, lived in Ireland for a bit. Think there’s a lot of us scattered around the world. Was always told by my Dad I was Irish, but I got a fair bit of stick for being English when I lived in Ireland!
Yes, you've made that point already.
I know these types of people in Ireland and they do hate England in all matters. So of course there is a contradiction in them supporting an English team wtf are you talking about.
You get texts from your gran?
WhatsApp’s even! Think she must have taken a class at the U3A.
I take it all English United fans were supporting that working class Northern English football club in the Champions League final? Be a bit hypocritical if they were hoping those English national team players lost to a Spanish team, particularly one that most United fans dislike.
That's one impressive granny.
I do recognize it as the third greatest.
There is a bit though isn't there? because Manchester is in England and the people who live there and support United are mostly English. So it does kind of seem a bit weird to hate England and the English and then hope the English football team called Manchester United do well while simultaneously hoping the English people who support their national team just like everyone else supports their national team writhe in football misery.
Are we all not descendants of Italy and by extension the Vatican?
Hyperbole notwithstanding (next level: “it seems a bit odd to support a football club based in England while at the same time actively wishing for every person in England, especially in the English city of Manchester, to die an agonizing death, but hey – what do I know”), you too seem to be missing the rather basic point: In my experience it's not uncommon at all for United fans (English ones too) to, well, not give a toss about England – and even actively dislike the national team.
Shameful. You both should be embarrassed.
Many English United fans have been and still are anti-England for several reasons. But this team is immensely likeable, so I'd assume some of those have had a change of heart. Besides, how can you not feel a warm, fuzzy feeling when you see Southgate in his little waistcoat on the touchline?
. Who are smaller little Englanders or little antiEnglanders?Why?
