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Snowflake society nowdays. The LGBTQ community can enjoy their Songfestival. Leave your politics out of football.
The irony of calling society a snowflake whilst clearly demonstrating being irked themselves by those standing up for this.Snowflake society nowdays. The LGBTQ community can enjoy their Songfestival. Leave your politics out of football.
He is gone.The irony of calling society a snowflake whilst clearly demonstrating being irked themselves by those standing up for this.
Also nice little bit of stereotyping shoved in this deeply insulting post too.
Disgusting. Should be banned.
Wtf?Your takes are horrible. You’re also talking about how black footballers should have deleted their social media in protest at racist abuse. I bet women shouldn’t wear short skirts because they’re just asking for it too?
You didn’t mention Harry Kane in there but sorry I took that the wrong way. The point is still the same. Why on earth would any footballer need to delete their social media due to racist abuse on social media? The temporary pause of social media was a campaign done to raise awareness and start discussions, which it did. Removing a platform to have those discussions just doesn’t make any sense.Wtf?
I am literally talking about Harry Kane.
How on earth did you just conclude that only black footballers should delete their social media? Are you a racist too and only see world as black and white?
I can play that game too.
Question - Who's the bigger snowflake? A person daring to exist or someone that can't stomach the sight of a rainbow flag?Snowflake society nowdays. The LGBTQ community can enjoy their Songfestival. Leave your politics out of football.
Aside from racists obviously, the biggest culprits for racism on social media are the companies who own it. Importsnt people deleting their profiles on social media, or doing stuff like freezing them publicly for some time until it improves filtering for racism and other bad things would do A LOT, and would definitely hurt those platforms. It won't change racists, but it will definitely improve how those companies/platforms deals with racists and racists profiles.You didn’t mention Harry Kane in there but sorry I took that the wrong way. The point is still the same. Why on earth would any footballer need to delete their social media due to racist abuse on social media? The temporary pause of social media was a campaign done to raise awareness and start discussions, which it did. Removing a platform to have those discussions just doesn’t make any sense.
Dregs of the gutter. Sad to hear.More "rent boy" chants aimed at Lampard tonight.
Very disappointing.More "rent boy" chants aimed at Lampard tonight.
Has there ever been some serious punishments for homophobic chants? Like stand closed or something of the kind?More "rent boy" chants aimed at Lampard tonight.
No.Has there ever been some serious punishments for homophobic chants? Like stand closed or something of the kind?
Not that it helps with cnuts like some
Lazio fans… But at least they should be made to pay for it.
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I don't know what they could do, as you say there were a lot of fans involved. Maybe speak to supporters groups to get a message out to members en masse threatening bans for anyone caught?The Athletic are reporting that Man United have said "“Homophobia, like all forms of discrimination, has no place in football. Manchester United is proud of our diverse fan base and the work we have done to reduce instances like we sadly heard today. We will continue to campaign for inclusivity and to tackle discriminatory abuse whether inside stadiums or online. This includes working with fan groups to educate fans on the offence which discriminatory language causes.”
Very interested to see what the club does. Be hard to ban so many fans but I'd hope they do something more than a statement to a journalist. I suspect they'll say nothing further and hope it goes away, just like what is in happening in this thread.
A tweet or a post on the official site condemning the chants on Friday would be a start.I don't know what they could do, as you say there were a lot of fans involved.
Oh yeah, I didn't even think of that. D'oh.A tweet or a post on the official site condemning the chants on Friday would be a start.
Maybe there was and I've missed it but I did check and found nothing.
Agreed. Education is definitely needed because I'm sure a chunk of fans see the chant as more generic abuse of Chelsea, rather than thinking too deeply about it what it actually means and understanding times have moved on.Would prefer education over any punitive punishment. A bit like Park's request for fans to stop singing his song about dogs.
That's vile and apologies for that having happened to you. Did you receive any word as to why nothing has happened?The thing is it's much more widespread than many believe. Obviously Premier League games get the publicity, but it permeates all levels of the game. I worked as a volunteer at a non-league club doing match photos for nearly six years and was then subjected to homophobic abuse from one of the players. Football appears, at all levels from FA to non-league clubs, to be strong on words and very weak on action. Although having said that I've met so many wonderful people in non-league where sexuality isn't an issue. I also received huge support from the club involved, other clubs, the League and ex players when I had problems - but nothing has happened to the player involved and he's still playing.
Exactly this.Agreed. Education is definitely needed because I'm sure a chunk of fans see the chant as more generic abuse of Chelsea, rather than thinking too deeply about it what it actually means and understanding times have moved on.
I have no doubts that a lot people think that's the origin of the taunt and genuinely say it with nothing more than 'Chelsea are plastic' in mind. That doesn't excuse it one bit though, and at this point, it has been highlighted over and over again by various groups, including the official LBGT+ group associated with most clubs.Exactly this.
I personally know fans who will likely be very defensive about something like this: if you just condemn them for being homophobic, they might start crying "PC gone mad!" rather than committing to change.
The origin of the "rent boy" taunt is lost on many fans - they genuinely don't get it. They think it's about Chelsea being "plastic" more than anything.
Didn't actually stop the song being sung though. It's not as common as it was but it's still around.Would prefer education over any punitive punishment. A bit like Park's request for fans to stop singing his song about dogs.
Absolutely - sure.That doesn't excuse it one bit though, and at this point, it has been highlighted over and over again by various groups, including the official LBGT+ group associated with most clubs.
Pretty much. Apparently the headline was "hooligan caught in bed with Chelsea Rentboy".Isn't it about the head of one of the Chelsea firms being caught with one?
Simply telling football fans to stop singing something is a surefire way to ensure they keep singing it, such is the nature of football fans.Didn't actually stop the song being sung though. It's not as common as it was but it's still around.
I don't think there's an absolutely 100% verified origin for it. But the term started to be used by northern fans (United and Liverpool, mainly) at some point during the 80s. The story about an infamous Chelsea fan (a hooligan, if you will) being caught with a male prostitute in a raid on a London brothel was one factor. Another factor was that Earl's Court - which is close to Stamford Bridge - was a known area for picking up - well - "rent boys".Isn't it about the head of one of the Chelsea firms being caught with one?
As a straight fan I thought the same when it was briefly sung on Friday night. There's still a lot of neanderthals that attend football matches from my experience. I'm in J stand and would guess it's worse in the singing section opposite, as it used to be when the majority of them were over here.Simply telling football fans to stop singing something is a surefire way to ensure they keep singing it, such is the nature of football fans.
I get why Man United fans don't give a shit about my opinion (as a Chelsea fan) on this, I even understand why they don't really care about what the club says but there's gay Man United supporters groups saying "please stop, this is really shitty to us" and I can't fathom the thinking behind ignoring them.
Come on now. Of course it has something to do with the "prostitute" part of it. But you know very well that if he'd been caught with a female prostitute, that would've been a non-story as such (this bloke wasn't a celebrity) and it would hardly have been great material for a chant.If the Chelsea hooligan had been caught lying in bed with a man who was simply his partner, then that wouldn't be funny, and any mocking of that would be downright homophobic, sure... but it is do with the "prostitute" aspect of it.