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Lionel Messi | PSG Watch
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In the latest episode of the United Hour podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Colm (@Duafc) discuss United's 1-0 win over Crystal Palace and the beginning of the Rangnick era. They talk Fred, Dalot, pressing and generally what looks new already under the German's regime. They also have time to cover United's 3-2 win over Arsenal, which saw us say goodbye to Michael Carrick.
Gonna spend a year in the shadow of Mbappé
Let's see if Kylian will be nice enough to gift him a CL
Let's see if Kylian will be nice enough to gift him a CL
Seriously though, Messi is in a very different setting, he is not a golden boy that he was at Barcelona and Argentina. Mbappe isPSG's biggest priority and he has a ego of Jupiter size, will Messi be able to adjust in that conditions, is something interesting to see.
Will he score tonight vs a decent Lyon team ?
I doubt he will.
Seems bit lost in that team, but than again he is Messi, might score a worldie and make me look like an absolute tool.
But I will be bold and say he will have a fairly forgettable game.
Hope so! I want to see Messi turn up.
Good prediction but the worldie thing almost did happen.
Nope.
I’m feeling he may actually flop. I don’t think he’ll have the same motivation for psg as he does for Barca and we’ll see Argentina Messi for a club side.
Might be a very bold take, but I have a nagging feeling he'll have the worst season from MNM.
Doesn’t really matter. What matters is what they win or don’t win.
His detractors are going to have a field day if he has the worst season from the front 3. It will matter somewhat for his legacy.
I don’t think so. If they don’t win the CL then maybe so. But if they win the CL it’s all gravy. People are getting carried away with a few meh performances at the start of the season. Nothing important happens in September.
Biggest flop ever.
Especially if Ronaldo does well with us.
Yeah I don't want to bring Ronaldo vs Messi in a Messi thread solely, but it'll definitely matter for his legacy if he didn't play well and Neymar AND Mbappe outshone him.Especially if Ronaldo does well with us.
Tbh he was so close to scoring the perfect free kick.
So it wasn't perfect then?
Winning champions league is what matters. League 1 is meaningless.
Im actually here to say it's sad to see Messi this way.
However I think his talent and Ligue 1s low level will eventually break open the flood gates. I still think he'll probably the highest in goals and assists for Ligue 1 eventually.
A success or not will matter if they win the champions league .
If they win the champions league and he's a part of the team more or less that's all that will matter
However I think his talent and Ligue 1s low level will eventually break open the flood gates. I still think he'll probably the highest in goals and assists for Ligue 1 eventually.
A success or not will matter if they win the champions league .
If they win the champions league and he's a part of the team more or less that's all that will matter
No arguments there
Nah, it won’t. Ronaldo has been outshined plenty of times in finals by his teammates. Great players with great teammates usually will flourish. I’m sure Messi will get his goals soon as he’s hit the woodwork a fair bit.
I didn't say the final.
I said throughout the season that I think he'll be outshone by both. But it is a very bold take.
I think it’s possible mbappe or neymar will outscore him, especially if Messi isn’t on penalties, but it would let surprise me if Messi still leads in every other category like key passes and assists.
but let’s see. PSG have won all their league games but should be playing better. Still early days for Messi with the new club.
Their game vs City will be telling.
I think in game play he probably will be but what matters more is how far they make it in the season particularly in the champions league .
Anyway, was their actual tension between him and poch or was that just Twitter drama ?
I don't think Messi was too pleased with getting subbed, but it's a bad look. He could have shook Poch's hand.
I can bet my life's savings that he won't get the scoring record in France this season or any other ones.
Yeah, psg not winning cl is one thing, but to fail to get out of the group would just be
I'd bet it too. He won't take pens going forward and Mbappe will outscore him this season.
I dont think he is very motivated. He didnt really want the transfer, he wasnt prepared and has lived all his adult life in Barcelona. Its Di Maria all over again.
He's an all time great for suee but certain things are beyond him. He lacks the physicality to impose his will on games consistently.
Theres probably zero chance of that happening, given the other clubs in the group.Yeah, psg not winning cl is one thing, but to fail to get out of the group would just be
He's also become a bit of a tactical headache lately. The best way to utilize him now is probably in a 442(like Valverde basically did) or a 3 back with wing-backs.
He wants to play in the center, but doesn't really offer movement off the ball. He comes deep to collect the ball unnecessarily at times. People kept blaming the Barcelona midfield(but their midfield is probably better than PSG's in terms of ball-carriers and penetrative passers)for him dropping deep, but that's what Messi wants to do. During losses of possession, he will refuse to track back and doesn't really press(Mbappe is also guilty of this).
I feel like he should adapt how he plays slightly and stay a bit further up the field, but I doubt he will. I don't think 'MNM' are an optimal fit at all either.
Individually, he is easily the best player in the world, but in the confines of a team now, he probably isn't. Which sounds paradoxical I know.
I can only agree with everything you said there. He's more than 1 player, he's an entire system if you wanna get the best out of him.
You might be right. I think he'll probably be up there though. If not scoring he will have decent assists?
I don’t think he would have any problem performing in the French league at all, it’s really low standard there and he has too much quality for not being success. Once he get going he would be performing.
But the only problem I could see is, he used to play in Barca system which is build entirely around him, with everything go through him. Whether he would enjoy the same freedom in PSG with Neymar and Mbappe up front, and his new teammates who are not familiar with his approach, would be something I am not too sure about. He has a habit of strolling around the pitch when without the ball, and being always the focal point of attack for his team. These things are not common in any other team except Barca, and would need more time for his teammates to learn how to cover his back, and to adjust on how to play alongside him.
But the only problem I could see is, he used to play in Barca system which is build entirely around him, with everything go through him. Whether he would enjoy the same freedom in PSG with Neymar and Mbappe up front, and his new teammates who are not familiar with his approach, would be something I am not too sure about. He has a habit of strolling around the pitch when without the ball, and being always the focal point of attack for his team. These things are not common in any other team except Barca, and would need more time for his teammates to learn how to cover his back, and to adjust on how to play alongside him.
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He can get a high number of assists, yes. I think he will.
Yeah I think eventually poch will cave and they'll build a team around Messi
One of Neymar or suarez would also really have to sacrifice their own play.