Please please please sign Bertrand 
Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
We are, and I'm quite pleased with it.Please please please sign Bertrand
He's bang average mate.
You did sign Barnes and Beardsley. Two of the very best around at the time in the league. It would be like selling Suarez and buying Oscar and Hazard or two other top class proven attacking players.
Back then Liverpool could sign players from any club bar Us and Everton.
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I think he's ok, not world class but was understudy to Cole and Azpilecuetta so never really given a proper chance. Much like Sturridge.
He's better than Flannagan so already improving a title chasing team.
Unless I'm missing something, have they paid much attention to the defence so far?
I actually think Flanagan was extremely good last season and will only get better - surely he should start matches now? Bertrand will make a good back-up LB I feel. First choice for a CL club with ambitions? I am not convinced.
I think their signings as a collective are superior than the signings Spurs made to replace Bale, but are signings that still won't compensate for the loss of Suarez. They've added good depth to the squad and some players that will immediately impact their first eleven and core team with Markovic and Lovren, but the former is the only intimidating signing. However, if they can sign Sanchez also, that would be a whole different proposition together entirely.
With that in mind and along with far more fixtures, I can't see them challenging for the title next season. In fact I'd be incredibly surprised if they do and they've probably blown their best chance of winning the title for a good few years at the very least.
With that in mind and along with far more fixtures, I can't see them challenging for the title next season. In fact I'd be incredibly surprised if they do and they've probably blown their best chance of winning the title for a good few years at the very least.
Lovren keeps getting mentioned alot.
Why do we get compared to Spurs rather than Arsenal when they lost RvP?
The entire reason he left Chelsea was because he wanted to be first choice and play week in and week out. Don't know if he'd agree to go to Liverpool and be on the bench behind someone who's even younger than he is and who isn't nearly as experienced.
Because it's the more similar scenario with Liverpool buying in bulk like Spurs did.
Is the Moreno deal no longer happening?
I assume it's because it looks like (at the moment at least) there will be more of a scattergun approach to strengthening your squad with 6,7,8 players as opposed to spending the money on maybe 2-3 really top notch players. This is what Spurs did last year.
Time will tell if that's the correct approach. Personally, I'm not convinced it is.
We would be buying bulk regardless of what Suarez is doing.
Again, we'd be buying 6 or 7 players whatever Suarez did. The only difference is we probably now need an additional player to replace him as best we can.
Perhaps if you replace the third best player in world football, that bulk should be of greater quality?
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The season before he scored 23 league goals, & had god knows how many assists, yet we still only finished in 7th place. The reason we did so well last season was down to a team effort, in which Suarez played the key part. The 10 league games he missed through suspension saw us win 7, draw 2, & lose 1. We thrashed Newcastle 6-0 too at their place during his absence.
The manager, & the team, will adapt to his loss. For all we know we could even become a better side without him. Goalscorers by their very nature generally tend to grab all the headlines. I recall Everton signing Gary Lineker in 1985 after they'd won the league. He scored something like 30 league goals in 1986, yet Everton won nothing. After selling him, they won the title again in 1987. For all the goals & adulation RVN enjoyed during his time at OT, United only won 1 league title. If I'm not mistaken, that was your most barren period in terms of winning PL's under Fergie.
I'm not worried about other teams/managers. We'll only concern ourselves with the likes of City, Chelsea, United, & Arsenal when we come to play them. & anyway, apparently Suarez couldn't hack it against better sides. So it's not like we'll miss him in the big games is it ? It's what Rodgers does that I'm interested in. Luis Suarez might not be in the team anymore, but it's not as though we'll be playing with 10 men every game. A lot hinges on how well, & how quickly, some of the new lads settle in. If most of them can hit the ground running, then I see no reason why we can't put in another strong challenge next season.
Flanagan, is...that...YOU?
I understand that you needed to strengthen as you'll have more games this year, but in my opinion you will suffer from needing to bed them all in. I think you should perhaps have concentrated on maybe just 4 or 5 new players. Just my opinion, I could be wrong, but I think that will prove a mistake.
They could say the same about us with all these new signings we have/will be bringing in.
True, but again I think it should be 4 or 5 max for us as well.
Flanagan - 35 Premier League starts. 1 international cap.
Bertrand - 42 Premier League starts. 2 international caps.
Not exactly huge difference.
Think Bertrand would start ahead of him though.
I think you'll find - injuries permitting - our starting line-up against Southampton will contain 8 or 9 of the same players that featured in most of our games last season.
See, to me that sounds like exactly what Tottenham supports said last summer when trying to justify the Bale sale and to console themselves. That they'd be a better team who isn't reliant in a single player to carry them. They went out and bought a bunch of average players and one very good one in Eriksen. I can see exactly the same thing happening here with you guys.
Also, what's to say last season wasn't just a flash in the pan in regards to Rodgers? That he had so many things go his way that made him seem better than he actually is. I'll use Laudrup as an example. Did a fantastic job at Swansea two seasons ago and was hyped beyond belief and was even linked with the Real Madrid job. Then expectations grew and he fell on his face the following season. What if last season was as good as it gets with him?
Can seems to be doing everything right off the pitch so far. Great first interview, donating £50,000 to Alder Hey and now he's taken the number 23 and is going on about what an honour it is to have Carra's shirt number.
Bertrand is 25. That's not much experience for a player his age.
Benfica fans seemed pissed off at the prospect of losing Markovic for €25m.
The back end of the 2013 season we were excellent too. It was overshadowed because we finished 7th.
Brendan Rodgers also did a fantastic job at Swansea, which earned him a crack at a big job managing Liverpool. He's now doing a fantastic job in his big job at Liverpool.
Can you see the subtle difference between him & Laudrup ?
Because he´s a very good player and specially because they will get nowhere near 25 million. Partizan will get 20% of that and a fund will get 10%. This deal comes after they sold Garay for 6 million where they got 2 million (plus 1 million previously from the fund) which makes it a deal where Benfica had a 2 million loss. They are very pissed at the President.
They will never see it with Rodgers. Ever. Its all Roberto Martinez, dontchaknow?
Apparently, from another website, Benfica get 12.5m and Pini Zhahava gets the other 12.5m. That's why they're a little irate.
Heh it´s even worse then. You still have to discount 20% to Partizan. Great addition for your team. Him and Sterling should make a very good attacking combo. Thought Mourinho would want to combine him with Hazard
I expect big things from Sterling next season. He got better and better as the season wore on, even to the point of shouldering the main attacking responsibility at the end of the season.
Sterling is a superb little player - really enjoy watching him play.
He looks good but he needs to win a league/UCL or two before people will rate him as a great managerThey will never see it with Rodgers. Ever. Its all Roberto Martinez, dontchaknow?
He wouldn't have started there over Willian. They have 3 players that play in his position so it would've been pointless to sign him.
It´s a pretty long season and why wouldn´t he be able of starting instead of Willian? He has the potencial to become a better player than him.
He's got the potential to be, yes, but isn't currently. Willian was one of their most important players last season. Then they have Schürrle and Salah who they just bought. Just no room there.