The sprint and tackle on Lucas Moura in stoppage time was fecking brilliant. I can't imagine Shaw of old having that kind of gas and desire at any stage of the game, let alone at that juncture with a 2-0 lead.
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Yeah, that was mental. So many people completely in denial about the fact he had previously played at a very high level. And this wasn't an occasional game, here and there. He once won player of the season ffs.
Completely disagree with you. You can have all the talent in the world, but if you struggle to find consistency in your game, like Shaw has, then you need to start looking at cutting your losses. If he is, at this stage, able to turn it around, there would be nothing greater. His talent is undisputed. His first touch is sublime; he has great short passing, and he is both fast and strong. However, at the beginning of the season he was dire. He lost a foot race he had no excuse for losing, which resulted in a goal against. He was overwegith and plainly unfit. That was the reason for that goal. There is no excuse for a professional footballer to be unfit, and he has been so many times over.
The talent is there, but the application has always been the issue. You do not do what you can to play him into form. He has to pick himself up and do what it takes. You are basically advocating that we continue trying to fit players into the team based on talent. Talent only gets you that far.
Malacia should start wearing Jose mask to motivate him further.
Credit to Luke he loves a fight for his place, it's just a shame he never stays at this level for much longer than a month or 2.
Strange principle. If you have all the talent in the world, and struggle to find consistency, you should probably work to increase consistency, I think that makes more sense.
If he can Impersonate Jose while wearing the mask - it will be better
He’s an excellent player. As I felt, the biggest contribution Malacia could have for us in the shorter term would be if he was able to help push Shaw back to his best. Because his best isn’t ‘good player’ - his best is completely world class. He has Maldini levels in him when he’s on it.
Never seen him work so hard like last night.
Clearly improved since beginning of the season.
We are better with him.
Let s see how he copes until the end of the month.
We are better with him.
Let s see how he copes until the end of the month.
Welcome back Shawberto.
More like a season or so. I get your point though.
Now I’ve got a Chris De Burgh ear worm. Feck you.
He's good but he is nowhere near to Maldini
At his best he’s Maldini good. If he had 10 years at his level from 2 seasons ago you wouldn’t be laughing.He's good but he is nowhere near to Maldini
At what cost? Should Ravel Morrisspn still be part of our squad? Should you play a clearly unfit player who is directly involved in conceding goals because of said fitness issues?
Yep extreme hyperbole.He's good but he is nowhere near to Maldini
He might have played 5 or 10 minutes of a game at Maldini levels, if he's lucky. He's a very good player when on form but come on now, don't be daft.
This is always how it works with former greats. It becomes as of they played a different sport to everyone else.
He might have played 5 or 10 minutes of a game at Maldini levels, if he's lucky. He's a very good player when on form but come on now, don't be daft.
Maldini is a far better LB than Shaw, but that isn’t because he was twice the LB Shaw was when Shaw was the best LB in the world - it was because he maintained that level for far longer and then the stuff the record books really care about are also thrown in there in that he is a highly decorated player. Shaw is absolutely magnificent though - powerful, graceful, has the touch of a #10, speed of a winger, power of a centre half too.
What you are saying is absolutely...correct! Also yes, this eulogizing of legends and turning them into faultless mythical beings (as opposed to very good footballers) is very grating.
When he blocked that cross and caught the ball to his face, I knew he was going to have a good game. He needs a smack in the face to get his aggression levels up to play any good. He is too casual in his game lately, even when playing well against Spurs he still has that sadly.
When he's not being lazy like last night he's miles ahead of Malacia.
But therein lies the issue - his form of 2 years ago. He’s never regularly reached that level consistently since he signed. Plus, Maldini is an all time great - there is no comparison to be made here.
Not even close.
This could be pasted into a Sancho thread.
Pace, power, touch and all those things are good to have but not why Maldini was so good, nor was it his longevity or his trophy cabinet. Maldini is the best left back of all time because of a couple of things Shaw does not possess, and very few players do. He was incredibly commanding and composed, to the point where opponents didnt expect to beat him, and he read the game so well that he was always a step ahead of those opponents. Shaw has neither of those attributes and so has never attained his level, probably not even for a single game, let alone 2 seasons.
Agree with all of that. Also this is his NINTH season at the club for god's sake and he's played consistently well in just two of them, falling out of favour at different times to Daily Blind, Ashely Young, Brandon Williams and Alex Telles. Consensus seems to have swung back the other way now on the basis of two or three really good performances but let's steady on and assess in a few months time. You can't blame his doubters for retaining some skepticism.
And nobody with working eyes could deny he's a special talent, especially with that first touch. It's his consistency and sometimes his attitude that I've found very questionable. He was fantastic against Spurs, let's hope it continues.
If you want to compare Ravel Morrison to the Man Utd Player of The Year from two seasons ago, I don’t think that really works. All players are more or less inconsistent, so if there is a point at all, it must be about degree. Or we’ll have to cut our losses on all players, ever, and send them to the Mexican league.
Chelsea 1:1 Man Utd
Who still thinks he’s shit?
The boy is coming good again.
The boy is coming good again.
Say what you will about Shaw, but his first touch really is laughably good.
Good game from him. Proactive, defensively solid and pushed forward whenever he had to.
Shame he had a very poor Sancho in front of him.
Edit: It was his cross for the goal too.
Shame he had a very poor Sancho in front of him.
Edit: It was his cross for the goal too.
Good game. Could have been more intense at times, but he's been great on the whole.
I thought he was great in that game. Best left back in the country when he's at it. When he's not, see 2021-22 season. His mentality and anger at Chelsea going 1-0 was lovely.
He has improved massively recently. Hopefully he keeps this up.
Can we just tell him there's a big international tournament every 3 months?
Brilliant play at the end - capped off another good performance.
Some great moments of shithousery too.
Some great moments of shithousery too.
He should be one of the best players in the league year in, year out. Outstanding ability, the direct comparison with Chilwell was a whitewash.
One of the best tonight I'd say.
Felt bad for him, Sancho let him down.
I don't think he's back to his best just yet but he's pretty good and currently one of our best players.
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