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The biggest positive with Van Gaal is that now, if you need to rush to the toilet or flip the kettle on during the game, you generally dont need to worry about missing any action or excitement. In fact, a rendezvous with the kettle can even be a welcome moment of excitement, if for example you find its empty and you need to fill it up with water - its something to take your mind off what is happening on the pitch.

So yeah, that's a positive. My days of sitting for 15 or 20 minutes, desperate to go to the toilet but unable to move for fear of missing something - those days are over. My days of sitting there, spitting feathers, wanting a cuppa, or perhaps a bag of crisps, but unwilling to countenance the thought of taking my eyes of the TV - these days I have no such reservations.

Though I guess if you want to be pessimistic about it you can spin this the other way too. How would you feel if you sat through one of our 1-0s and happened to be out the room the one moment something happened? Its a risk.

But on balance I take it as a positive thing. Boredom has been liberating.
So true, I go to make coffee or fix a sandwich all the time. There's also the odd nap here and there. Nodded off for about five minutes during the Tottenham game and was fortunate enough to miss all three goals.
 
LVG trumps Giggs everyday of the week not even a contest!
How so? One has proven to be a complete failure, the other is a complete mystery box. I always find these statements weird. We have no way of knowing what Giggs the manager is like.

Just to be clear I don't want Giggs as our manager. As perfect as it would be for him to turn out to be our Guardiola, handing the keys to the kingdom to a complete rookie is far too risky, especially with the state of the squad. Can't understand the vitriol towards him on this board though.
 
I think its risen by 4 votes

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If he makes 4th place, some fans may herald him as our saviour. "yes...4th place trophy....we've won it!!!"
Who knows what they will do if we won the FA Cup. They'll probably commission a statue to be built in his honour.
 
@Everyone saying Giggs scouted Martial. What is the evidence suggesting this?
 
He should still go even if we win the fa cup and finish 4th because we've hardly faced anyone of note in the cup and scraped through most of them and 4th would be so so lucky.
Plus if he does get in the cl, nobody who would improve us or the crazy targets we've all seen before would want to Join us under this fool unless they're drunk, I'm pretty sure as others have said before that players would sooner join us in the Europa with Mourinho than LVB in the cl.
 
Because there's clearly a long-term picture here which, to me, is more important than whether we win a trophy this season, or qualify for the Top 4.

If LVG stays, in all likelihood we'll have to endure another tortuous year of football next year. And LVG himself said the plan was for Giggs to take over when he retires, so, if LVG is allowed to retire in 2017, it's logical to assume the board want Giggs to succeed him.

Given the very obvious downsides to Giggs' appointment, specifically his lack of managerial experience and pulling power when compared to other top managers, it's perfectly reasonable for fans to worry that, if United keep LVG this summer, we're letting ourselves in for three or four more years of tumescent football while our rivals zoom past us.

As a kid I wanted United to win the FA Cup more than any other trophy, but to me it's been robbed of its glamour by the FA and the top clubs. Now it's nothing more than a glorified version of the league cup to me. Top 4 would mean a return to the CL, but as other people have said we're likely to get knocked out at the first hurdle if we qualify.

Obviously it's always great to win a trophy and achieve CL football but I personally would accept the short-term pain of another barren season if it means long-term gain.

So if this is true, this is their grand master plan on fighting our rivals home and abroad, is Ryan Giggs. It seems certain people could be influencing giggs incharge, would rather run the team into the ground out of sentimentality than getting with the program, if it does happen the club still lives in in la la land
 
Louis van Gaal believes winning the FA Cup would make this a successful season for Manchester United, even if they fail to qualify for the Champions League.

Life after Sir Alex Ferguson has so far proved difficult at Old Trafford, but David Moyes’ successor began brightly enough as United finished fourth in his first season at the helm.

Van Gaal’s second campaign has been less comfortable, though, and missing out on the Champions League looks a distinct possibility, despite having recently reduced the gap to the top four to two points.

Those recent improvements have done little to dim the noise about the Dutchman’s future, yet winning – and perhaps him bowing out with – silverware remains a reasonable prospect.

United face Everton at Wembley today at the semi-final juncture of the FA Cup, with Van Gaal targeting the club’s first title win in the competition since 2004 – and first major trophy of the post-Ferguson era.

“I think it is always a success when you win a title,” Van Gaal said when asked if this would be a successful season if they finished fifth but won the cup.

“But for the club it is more important to qualify for the Champions League because we have to show ourselves at the highest level. That is also our aim.”


FA Cup success would allow Van Gaal to continue a run of winning a trophy at every club he has managed, from the Champions League with Ajax to a pair of Primera Division crowns at Barcelona, plus league titles at AZ Alkmaar and Bayern Munich.

Continuing a medal-laden career would mean a lot to the Dutchman and he believes it could be the catalyst to more success at Old Trafford.

“Always when you win a title it represents what Manchester United stands for,” Van Gaal said. “We have had a period of a lot of titles and we want to bring it back.

“And when you win the FA Cup, you have a title and a very respectable title and in England more than in other countries.

“In the Netherlands and also in Spain, the cup is not so highly valued.

“In Germany, they have a fixed stadium in Berlin and they make a big event of it so I like the way the Germans do it and I expect that here it is much bigger.

“When I see the people on the streets, they are so excited so you can feel already for the fans it is fantastic.

“But we are only in the semi-final and not the final and I want to speak about Everton because it is not a piece of cake.

“We have to beat Everton and in spite of the 4-0 loss (that Everton suffered against Liverpool on Wednesday), we have showed already this season that we have lost against Arsenal and the next match we won.

“That’s the same after Liverpool – that we lost 2-0 there and then we played West Ham in the quarter-finals and made a 1-1 and that was very important.

“So Everton can do that also after Liverpool – and when you are winning, you can also lose.

“In spite of them having a lot of injuries I have read, still they have the chance to beat us.”
 
Louis van Gaal believes winning the FA Cup would make this a successful season for Manchester United, even if they fail to qualify for the Champions League.

Life after Sir Alex Ferguson has so far proved difficult at Old Trafford, but David Moyes’ successor began brightly enough as United finished fourth in his first season at the helm.

Van Gaal’s second campaign has been less comfortable, though, and missing out on the Champions League looks a distinct possibility, despite having recently reduced the gap to the top four to two points.

Those recent improvements have done little to dim the noise about the Dutchman’s future, yet winning – and perhaps him bowing out with – silverware remains a reasonable prospect.

United face Everton at Wembley today at the semi-final juncture of the FA Cup, with Van Gaal targeting the club’s first title win in the competition since 2004 – and first major trophy of the post-Ferguson era.

“I think it is always a success when you win a title,” Van Gaal said when asked if this would be a successful season if they finished fifth but won the cup.

“But for the club it is more important to qualify for the Champions League because we have to show ourselves at the highest level. That is also our aim.”


FA Cup success would allow Van Gaal to continue a run of winning a trophy at every club he has managed, from the Champions League with Ajax to a pair of Primera Division crowns at Barcelona, plus league titles at AZ Alkmaar and Bayern Munich.

Continuing a medal-laden career would mean a lot to the Dutchman and he believes it could be the catalyst to more success at Old Trafford.

“Always when you win a title it represents what Manchester United stands for,” Van Gaal said. “We have had a period of a lot of titles and we want to bring it back.

“And when you win the FA Cup, you have a title and a very respectable title and in England more than in other countries.

“In the Netherlands and also in Spain, the cup is not so highly valued.

“In Germany, they have a fixed stadium in Berlin and they make a big event of it so I like the way the Germans do it and I expect that here it is much bigger.

“When I see the people on the streets, they are so excited so you can feel already for the fans it is fantastic.

“But we are only in the semi-final and not the final and I want to speak about Everton because it is not a piece of cake.

“We have to beat Everton and in spite of the 4-0 loss (that Everton suffered against Liverpool on Wednesday), we have showed already this season that we have lost against Arsenal and the next match we won.

“That’s the same after Liverpool – that we lost 2-0 there and then we played West Ham in the quarter-finals and made a 1-1 and that was very important.

“So Everton can do that also after Liverpool – and when you are winning, you can also lose.

“In spite of them having a lot of injuries I have read, still they have the chance to beat us.”

Nice to see he has his excuses out and ready.
 
Can't understand the vitriol towards him on this board though.
It's perfectly understandable. He is a cheating scum who diddled his brother's wife for years, aside from all the other women he cheated on his wife with.

The vitriol is for other reasons, but it does explain why you can't really make an appeal to dignity or respect when it comes down on him. He deserves none. Frankly, it's amazing he has not been ostracised by the club.
 
van Gaal said:
"I hate United and I hope the fans get rabies."

Tbh, I can't see that he's said much wrong there.
 
It's perfectly understandable. He is a cheating scum who diddled his brother's wife for years, aside from all the other women he cheated on his wife with.

The vitriol is for other reasons, but it does explain why you can't really make an appeal to dignity or respect when it comes down on him. He deserves none. Frankly, it's amazing he has not been ostracised by the club.
Something something racism, cannibalism, t-shirts etc.
 
Another head scratching lineup.

If we don't win this then he should be sacked straight after the game. There are Absolutely no excuses for not beating this injury ravaged and horrendously out of form Everton team.
 
Lvg > Martinez.

Excellent having Martial dribbling against Besic as soon as he get the ball.
 
I'm sitting here and I genuinely cannot believe what I'm seeing. It's an FA Cup Semi final, the team is struggling and the manager doesn't do anything, it's astonishing.
 
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