He was talking about Pogba who wasn’t an Ole signing. Same old trash blaming everyone and everything but Pogba for his failings.
Maguire | he stays!
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That’s true but the World Cup for England he got on the end of them all very well. Which is part of the reason we signed him due to them performances.
Oh I see. Thanks mate.
He didn't have 2 good seasons. That is just what you and others are convincing yourselves. He has been a concern throughout all his time here.
Pogba at least has the Europe League final goal under his name.
We recouped most of Di Maria's fee.
Maguire's transfer has been a disaster.
I’d like to think Maguire also still has some remaining ambition as a player and would rather play every week for a decent PL team than be 4th or 5th choice here. End of the day the £2m a year won’t make monumental difference.
Getting back almost half of what we paid for is a pretty decent coup all things considered.
I never could fully bring myself to dislike him, he seemed like a decent lad who just wasn't good enough really, wish him well.
I never could fully bring myself to dislike him, he seemed like a decent lad who just wasn't good enough really, wish him well.
If United open a go fund me campaign I’d be one of the first to contribute.. don’t care about that tbh just to cross the line..
I agree 100%
Whatever we might think of it, it will probably go down in history as one of the worst signings a team has ever made. We spent Ronaldo money on a decent centre back.
That's not to say that I personally had anything against the signing, and on paper you could argue he achieved the main thing we set out to do which was get into the champions league - and he was alright for us (and brilliant for England) at times.
There have honestly been worse signings made by other teams and especially by us considering the £ for £ and € for €. Maguire never seems to get injured for long and is good for 60 games a season, which was honestly worth the money Vs Jones and Smalling who played what, 20-30 games at best? He will do fine at West Ham.
And yet you had him in your 'Post SAF best XI' in 2021.
Lets not rewrite history. The last two seasons have been poor but he had very good spells.
He's a fairly good defender so long as he never has to catch anybody. He is a good header so long as it's a clearance and not off of a Man Utd corner. He's a pretty good passer. He's the GOAT as far as pointing and grimacing. Hope he finds his way.
Not a great signing but he was not Nicolas Pepe levels of bad lets be honest. We tend to think we are the only big club to make mistakes but they all do it if you want to look for examples. It is a function of being a big club that you are going to pay big money for players who are supposedly at the top of their game and the spotlight means that those deals will look far worse than they actually are when the player does not live up to expectations.
Is it Christmas in the middle of summer? If we get north of £25m net from Maguire, it would be.
Paqueta is supposedly on over 120k and Zouma on around 100k.
Maguire will be at least equal to their top earner, especially if he’s brought in to captain.
Maguire will be at least equal to their top earner, especially if he’s brought in to captain.
I don't remember the chronology of transfers then but the same summer Bayern and Juve both bought CBs for 80m€... Did the United bosses felt they had to make a statement they could too ?
As others have said he had 2 good seasons when he joined and the rest have been poor. He dealt with the instant pressure of being named captain after he joined pretty well and remember how we were all hoping he would be fit for the Europa League Final
It seems like his Mykonos incident really affected him and Ronaldo's influence and "aura" coming probably undermined his position as captain. He was rushed back from injury and gave an awful display against Leicester which seemed to be the sign of things to come. Ole and then Ten Hag wanting to play higher up the pitch exposes him alot. West Ham will be a good fit as he gets to sit deeper and good luck to him.
It seems like his Mykonos incident really affected him and Ronaldo's influence and "aura" coming probably undermined his position as captain. He was rushed back from injury and gave an awful display against Leicester which seemed to be the sign of things to come. Ole and then Ten Hag wanting to play higher up the pitch exposes him alot. West Ham will be a good fit as he gets to sit deeper and good luck to him.
First, I have the above poster on the ignore list so thanks for letting me know he quoted me.
Second, in 2021 his competitors for the spot were Jones, Rojo, Evans, Bailly, Lindelof and Blackett. Yeah he's better than these crap options, it's not rocket science. It also doesn't mean he's good himself. Same for Smalling who is also in this lineup Even though he has been mediocre to bad for us.
In the last line of the post I said there're not many good options to choose from.
Since then we had signed Varane and Martinez whom would easily take both spots.
"Shocker" my arse.
Read through the context.
To be totally fair, in 2021 our Post SAF CB's would have been Smalling, Jones, Maguire, Bailly, Blind and Lindelof. Being chosen out of that bunch isn't really a great endorsement
Whatever we might think, nobody sensible will regard him as one of the worse signings ever.
No doubt. Just found it funny someone saying he was our best CB after 2 years at the club, to maybe 'worst ever signing' now. These posters change their mind like the wind.To be totally fair, in 2021 our Post SAF CB's would have been Smalling, Jones, Maguire, Bailly, Blind and Lindelof. Being chosen out of that bunch isn't really a great endorsement
No and it's quite funny they've defending the original post without realising they've still completely undermined today's post.
I don't, it's a load of shite. Best player in the post Sir Alex era?? What a load of bollock. He's been one of the most error prone players since Sir Alex retired and a bloody useless Captain.
100% ... I have no animosity for Maguire it has just reached a point whereby his position here is nigh untenable.... I hope he turns it around... Elsewhere
What are you talking about now?
Christ. That post was about Pogba. Latest the racist part should have given it away.
But outcome is the same, it was a rubbish post. I repeatedly see posts that part of the reason people criticised Pogba was some hidden racism. Likely true with some. But then can we apply this “logic” to other players such as Sancho, Rashford or even Lingard as well? The latter didn’t even cost a fee but got so much criticism?
And if there are different/other reasons those players get blame, then are there not also different/other reasons Pogba got blame?
Decent player in the right system. He’s just horribly exposed in a modern front foot thinking football team, he’ll most likely be fine at West Ham.. and then the usual suspects will come out and say how wrong we were to get rid of him. Ignoring the fact that West Ham play a completely different brand of football to us
It's unfortunate that there are so many abusive tweets/posts directed at him, and that's uncalled for.
However, the media is always going to talk about United players, fairly or unfairly. Being a United player put him in their crosshairs, and being the captain meant that he was always going to be under a microscope. It was up to him to manage the pressure of being the United captain, and unfortunately, he couldn't handle that.
I'm sure he'd turn out to be a decent buy for West Ham, and haunt us by scoring a set-piece header or something, after which the media will claim that we're idiots for selling him.
Knowing how bats*** mad Moyes is over Maguire, I bet they will have sanctioned 130-150k on him a week.
Which is ok now, but in 3 years when he isn't even starting material anymore, that's going to be insane, especially when Moyes leaves next summer and we no doubt get a more progressive manager in to appease the fans.
Therein lies the problem. For today/this season I'm sire Moyes gets a tune out of him and its worth it. Rolling forwards and I'm far from convinced that both Maguire won't deteriorate or Moyes won't be here at all. At which point we have a literally insellable player stuck to us eating 130-150k a week out of our modest wage budget.
Ah well 3 posts left until the daily reset.
Not possible. At this point, he can only improve, seriously speaking. If he gets confidence back, he may do Ok for a defensive team
31 this year. Is Maguire really going to find his feet again? Maybe he's just past it. It happens.
Literally couldn't care less if that happened. We're miles better off without him. Why does this even enter your head?
When you play 10 players behind the ball and low defensive line he will do ok there. Maguire was and is not working in a team that is attacking. Someone will now say, what about Leicester. There were just counterattacking.
Anyone else think United should go for Laporte to replace maguire on the bench? Gives cover to Martinez as lcb and he wouldn’t have to move house.
Agreed.
Our worst signing ever. It will be a massive relief to see the back of him, cheers Moyes.
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Nice work if you can get it. Must be compensation for pain and suffering.
Only that the media will always find something to say about United because it drives their engagement.