After hearing Fergie's interview after the game today, I think Valencia will definitly start this game.
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Our current iteration of Fergie will simply not do this. Even though it bit him in the a$$ last season, in almost an identical situation.
We'll go negative and get done by a single goal.
OMG we was not that bad today, we lost the game by a stunning goal.
For all there pressure that did not do much else, not say we should of won but to say City would beat us 6-1 is just wrong.
well, all this talk about the players being knackered...internationals etc, they all have a whole week to recover now, so I would hope we'll see the players re-engergised to finish city off next Monday.
We're not playing that great and City seem to have got into a rhythm recently, so goodness knows what will happen...
We're not playing that great and City seem to have got into a rhythm recently, so goodness knows what will happen...
We're havin a party on Derby day
We're havin a party on Derby day
Get these bitter blue cnuts battered .... 20 here we come!
We're havin a party on Derby day
Get these bitter blue cnuts battered .... 20 here we come!
Sorry but were you watching the game today? BOTH teams were utterly shocking! Any in form team would have beat either team 3-0. I'm not just singling us out here, Chelsea were just as bad
We were OK defensively today, so I think you're being a bit harsh there.
Just play our fecking game and don't be negative again. No fecking around with the likes of Valencia, Jones in midfield, Smalling at right-back etc., just play the best team and get the job against the cnuts done.
I don't care how, but beat them, do the double over them, get 18 points clear and celebrate.
I fully expect us to be negative though, playing Smalling at RB, Valencia RW, Kagawa on the bench, maybe Young on the left. City will play their best team and have everyone available for selection, so this should be a cracker on paper.
De Gea
Rafael - Vidic - Evans - Evra
Carrick - Cleverley
Welbeck - Rooney - Kagawa
RVP
Rafael - Vidic - Evans - Evra
Carrick - Cleverley
Welbeck - Rooney - Kagawa
RVP
I don't care how, but beat them, do the double over them, get 18 points clear and celebrate.
I fully expect us to be negative though, playing Smalling at RB, Valencia RW, Kagawa on the bench, maybe Young on the left. City will play their best team and have everyone available for selection, so this should be a cracker on paper.
Did I say we was good, I said you was wrong in saying we would get beat 6-1 , because it is just not true.
Yes both teams were bad and we only lost because of that goal, a 0-0 and then pens would of been about right.
I agree. With plenty of points to fall back on, I think Fergie will want to make a statement in this one.
Why? What did he say?
De Gea
Rafael - Vidic - Rio - Evra
Carrick - Cleverley
Nani - Kagawa - Welbeck
Rooney
Rafael - Vidic - Rio - Evra
Carrick - Cleverley
Nani - Kagawa - Welbeck
Rooney
Valencia in for Nani, swap Kagawa for Welbeck, and Welbeck for Rooney, and swap Welbeck for RVP - and I think that's the team we'll play.
In the words of Alan Johnson: "...feck a chicken if that's what it takes. Watch a chicken feck a horse." Just win this bloody match and secure the title.
Yep. And probably the right one too. Normally I always want to see Nani, especially alongside Rooney and Kagawa. But he was so abysmal against Chelsea that I'd prefer Valencia.
I honestly can't see us sitting back. Revenge is needed for that dreadful 6-1.
Don't get it
The famous Welbeck triplets, that's what I didn't understand.
I hate to be the negative twat of the thread, but I have a feeling we'll lose this one. 1-3 is the score I have in my head, but it'll only end up being something they try to brag about when we win the title, much like the Liverpool 1-4 a few years ago.
Phelan as defensive midfielder, McClair up top.
Someone we really don't want to see starting in midfield?
We've used it before this season, our wingers however are an experiment worthy of a mad professor [hopefully Fergie's audition for Frankenstein ended at the weekend].
We definitely need a good showing here.
De Gea
Rafael
Ferdinand
Vidic
Evra
Welbeck
Carrick
Cleverley
Giggs
Rooney
van Persie
De Gea
Rafael
Ferdinand
Vidic
Evra
Welbeck
Carrick
Cleverley
Giggs
Rooney
van Persie
De Gea
Rafael
Ferdinand
Vidic
Evra
Carrick
Cleverley
Nani
Rooney
Welbeck
RvP
Rafael
Ferdinand
Vidic
Evra
Carrick
Cleverley
Nani
Rooney
Welbeck
RvP
Just beat the cnuts.
Almost certain Jones will play in midfield for this.
-----------------De Gea----------------------
Rafael-----------Rio----Vidic----------Evra
---------Jones----Carrick---Cleverley---------
----Welbeck----------------------Rooney
--------------Van Persie--------------------
Swap Rafael for Smalling, fitness permitting and Welbeck for Valencia maybe, tough one to call that but I think Nani blew his chance the other day unfortunately
-----------------De Gea----------------------
Rafael-----------Rio----Vidic----------Evra
---------Jones----Carrick---Cleverley---------
----Welbeck----------------------Rooney
--------------Van Persie--------------------
Swap Rafael for Smalling, fitness permitting and Welbeck for Valencia maybe, tough one to call that but I think Nani blew his chance the other day unfortunately
I'm doubt SAF will go defensive for this one. Being positive at the Etihad is what got us the result in the reverse fixture, both in the starting line up and SAFs refusal to just try to 'protect the point' at the end - putting Welbeck on for Cleverley in the 88th minute was a positive approach which indirectly lead to Robin's goal. Plus we're at home.
Also the way SAF spoke about Valencia after the Chelsea game makes me think he will start this one - maybe at RB though if Rafa isn't fit.
There was a lot of criticism on here for Young on Saturday and whilst I admit he does frustrate at times, he created 8 chances for team mates in that game against Sunderland which was more than any other player in the PL last weekend - not saying he had a brilliant game by any means but credit where its due and I wouldn't be surprised to see him start too.
Rooney and Kagawa for me as the other two of the three behind Robin (in a 4-2-3-1). Hopefully Rooney will be fit.
I'm sure City will be up for this one. Mancini has been trying to convince anyone with ears since December that City deserved to win the game at the Etihad because apparently they played better - dismissing the fact that they should have been 3-0 down with the game practically out of sight. He doesn't seem to realise that having more possession doesn't necessarily equal playing better and deserving to win, and that for us playing on the counter was a deliberate tactic. Anyway I can see him hyping them up to prove to everyone that they're the 'better team' he keeps saying they are and I just hope SAF can fire our lads up for this one despite it being of little real significance in terms of the title race - we should still want to win. I feel the morale that seemed so high in the squad has dipped since Madrid, winning ths would be a boost to both the team and the fans.
We will win this 2-1
We'll lose 3:1
I actually think both Valencia and Nani might start on the wings.
Maybe Fergie will go with the same line up as the reverse fixture except maybe Welbeck for Young
Last 10 league matches against City: 6W, 1D, 3L.
09.12.2012 Manchester City 2-3 Manchester United
30.04.2012 Manchester City 1-0 Manchester United
23.10.2011 Manchester United 1-6 Manchester City
12.02.2011 Manchester United 2-1 Manchester City
10.11.2010 Manchester City 0-0 Manchester United
17.04.2010 Manchester City 0-1 Manchester United
20.09.2009 Manchester United 4-3 Manchester City
10.05.2009 Manchester United 2-0 Manchester City
30.11.2008 Manchester City 0-1 Manchester United
10.02.2008 Manchester United 1-2 Manchester City
Last 10 league matches @ City: 5W, 1D, 4L
09.12.2012 Manchester City 2-3 Manchester United
30.04.2012 Manchester City 1-0 Manchester United
10.11.2010 Manchester City 0-0 Manchester United
17.04.2010 Manchester City 0-1 Manchester United
30.11.2008 Manchester City 0-1 Manchester United
19.08.2007 Manchester City 1-0 Manchester United
05.05.2007 Manchester City 0-1 Manchester United
14.01.2006 Manchester City 3-1 Manchester United
13.02.2005 Manchester City 0-2 Manchester United
14.03.2004 Manchester City 4-1 Manchester United
09.12.2012 Manchester City 2-3 Manchester United
30.04.2012 Manchester City 1-0 Manchester United
23.10.2011 Manchester United 1-6 Manchester City
12.02.2011 Manchester United 2-1 Manchester City
10.11.2010 Manchester City 0-0 Manchester United
17.04.2010 Manchester City 0-1 Manchester United
20.09.2009 Manchester United 4-3 Manchester City
10.05.2009 Manchester United 2-0 Manchester City
30.11.2008 Manchester City 0-1 Manchester United
10.02.2008 Manchester United 1-2 Manchester City
Last 10 league matches @ City: 5W, 1D, 4L
09.12.2012 Manchester City 2-3 Manchester United
30.04.2012 Manchester City 1-0 Manchester United
10.11.2010 Manchester City 0-0 Manchester United
17.04.2010 Manchester City 0-1 Manchester United
30.11.2008 Manchester City 0-1 Manchester United
19.08.2007 Manchester City 1-0 Manchester United
05.05.2007 Manchester City 0-1 Manchester United
14.01.2006 Manchester City 3-1 Manchester United
13.02.2005 Manchester City 0-2 Manchester United
14.03.2004 Manchester City 4-1 Manchester United
Last game against City: City 2-3 United (9/12/12)
2nd to last: City 1-0 United (30/4/12)
De Gea
Rafael Ferdinand Evans Evra
Carrick Cleverley
Valencia Rooney Young
Persie
Rafael Ferdinand Evans Evra
Carrick Cleverley
Valencia Rooney Young
Persie
2nd to last: City 1-0 United (30/4/12)
De Gea
Jones Ferdinand Smalling Evra
Carrick Scholes
Park Giggs Nani
Rooney
Jones Ferdinand Smalling Evra
Carrick Scholes
Park Giggs Nani
Rooney
Surprised at amount of draws.
Or rather the draw.
Vidic will play, so I expect all to be well at the back anyway.
We'll win this I'd say, the lads will want to make a statement after that Chelsea showing.
We'll win this I'd say, the lads will want to make a statement after that Chelsea showing.
The same lads that were going to make a statement after Madrid? Or after drawing at OT with Chelsea?
Hopefully that produces Kagawa in the XI but after Chelsea...
