Not saying it’s right but perhaps people see death caused by drunk driving differently from rape/attempted rape?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I thought it was obvious that I was talking about the stupid insults being thrown about by the children above - like i said, embarassing for ALL involved those calling 'snowflakes' and those 'incels' all as bad as each other
Played really well last night for a team clearly outclassed, Getafe's best player and it's clear they all realise it as they constantly look for him to do everything, perhaps too much but wouldn't surprise me if he impressed a few teams with his performance.
Hit the post after dribbling past a player but in answer to an earlier poster, he was definitely wide of a 4-4-2 in position.
Hit the post after dribbling past a player but in answer to an earlier poster, he was definitely wide of a 4-4-2 in position.
Agreed, it's rehashing the same thing over and over - It's boring - People stand where they stand, the only thing to actually comment on in this thread that's relevant is his performances as it's new data, the rest will ultimately be decided by the club.
Every snowflake is unique and lovely goddammit
Yeah, I'm hearing good things about his performance. Shame there's none of them vs videos yet of said performance.
I dont think he is saying that but Im not a lip reading expert like half of Twitter apparently are
Brzez has left the building. Looking at the various modmin notes he was never getting promoted.
And before anyone jumps up and down. No. Not simply because he wanted Greenwood back.
And before anyone jumps up and down. No. Not simply because he wanted Greenwood back.
He did his cutting in and shooting for the post thing quite a lot but his aim was just a bit off, could have bagged one or two.
His shooting technique is still quite impressive and the force he's capable of generating must be quite terrifying for the opposing defense but he can be quite one dimensional at times.
Needs to work on that.
His shooting technique is still quite impressive and the force he's capable of generating must be quite terrifying for the opposing defense but he can be quite one dimensional at times.
Needs to work on that.
Maybe they're giving recordings of it out with caps?
What do you think he’s saying?
There was no actual rape though right? I’m not sure why we are constantly blurring the lines with this. Both very serious but also different.
Probably not? He's not been at the club since it happened, and the club will have obviously spoken to the players about keeping a lid on things. Can't imagine it's the kind of thing they'll have been texting him about. I doubt they'll have been texting at all.
He doesn’t have enough evidence to form a view. Also, I’ve heard it’s actually part of a longer clip. In the full version he shouts ‘only joking!’ Afterwards.
So Getafe reported it for no reason?
Even before all of this, I don't think Greenwood was a hugely popular figure in the United squad. I'm sure some have asked questions but he probably talks to the players he came up in the youth team with more than a lot of the established first teamers.
I think you should just have a read about how horrendously unreliable lip reading is. An incredible amount of words look the same and it’s very easy to put words you want/expect to hear into ones mouth.
He might of said it like, footballers loves talking shit to each other, but I’ll wait and see if he responds in the following days.
Ola Amiga
It went viral last night so it could absolutely be them wanting to get an explanation.
Do you honestly believe that not a single other footballer player has asked him "WTF? "? I coach in a football team network, I spend half my life trying to find out what little WhatsApp are going on.
Whether Greenwood and Bellingham are best mates, mortal enemies or something in between, if Bellingham said that, and I'm no lip reader, without covering his mouth, he's telegraphing his opinion.
Because Chelsea aren't United. Chelsea are based in zone 2, West London, you could walk to Holborn/Fleet Street in half an hour. Also, he wasn't a local lad with a feck load of local contacts. And, tbf, there aren't any witness statements, recanted or not.
They are both dickhead moves, but Chelsea aren't Manchester United
See, this is a scout report from someone who likes his football. I don't like his bias, but I can understand it.
It's not rehashing old stuff if people are giving us scout reports on his performances, it's when they yearn for him back we have to remind them.
You ain't, you're just @rimaldo with grammar.
Fair enough, a sports report. Balanced and focused on the football.
If that is the case they need a new Press/PR department.
If there is any possibility that he didn't say that, then you say nothing or let the public know what was said.
I don't watch the clip and couldn't care less but it seems odd they would complain, even if he did say it.
The fact that Getafe have reported it would suggest it’s what they heard too
Or the simplest explanation is that’s what they heard
Sorry, I'm walking, I think I quoted people without reply, I do have a reply, so I'm happy to debate
Really unprofessional from Bellingham. He had the perfect opportunity to two foot him and he's missed the cnut by miles.
I don't think this changes anything in relation to what I've said.
We've been told, "the alleged victim requested the police to drop their investigation in April 2022". That suggests a withdrawal, not recanting.
The CPS statement then says, "In this case a combination of the withdrawal of key witnesses and new material that came to light meant there was no longer a realistic prospect of conviction."
Reading those two statements. The most plausible explanation, in my opinion, is the alleged victim withdrew hench requesting investigation dropped. This is then referenced by the CPS as one of the winess(es) which withdrew. The new material is then very likely referencing an extended audio (which we know exists) or other evidence.
What alternative explanation are you trying to suggest?
- In April 2022 the alleged victim didn't try to cancel the investigation and Richard Arnold lied about that?
- Instead they recanted their statement.
- There wasn't an extended audio which provided an explanation, Richard Arnold also lied about this.
- When the case was dropped the 2 or more witness withdrawals aren't referring to the alleged victim.
- The "new material" is actually the alleged victim recanting their statement despite trying to cancel the investigation from April 2022.
Plausible? Yeah anything is plausible. It's unlikely though unless you believe Richard Arnold told multiple lies in his public statement. It would also imply many of those involved in the investigation lied to.
If your theory requires multiple individuals to have lied on record then I think you'd agree its probably less likely to have happened compared to other scenarios which don't depend on a fabricated investigation/statement from United and where both CPS/United statements would collaborate one another.
Again, of course what you're saying could be plausible. I just personally think it's much less likely and feels like a bit of a forced explanation with round pegs in square holes. I think we will likely have to agree to disagree on this one as I can't see either of us backing down. I respect your view and admit it could be a plausible explanation, I just think my own presumption is the more likely out of the two at present as it gits with what we've been told so far rather than being dependant on one investigation being filled with lies.
So that's Real off the list of clubs we can sell him too at the end of the season.
Barca it is so.
£200million an 7 levers
It is, but Spanish media weirdly uses this a LOT for stories and piece on channels like el chiringuito. I'm pretty sure that's where the whole hand over the mouth stuff originates from too.
Quality control
What an absolute cnut Bellingham is - hope they throw the book at thim. If he's so good - then come back to the prem league and try your luck at this standard. Absolute feckwit and shitehouse of a player. Cruise control in Spain and at International level. Prem league is where the best perform week in week out. Come and have a go if you think you are hard enough. cnut.
Er, exactly?
No idea
I watched the short clip but it probably won't surprise you to hear that I don't like making judgements based on partial info on social media !
Not sure if you read my post but I made clear I agree that reports on performances are adding value, I regularly provide them as I tend to watch the games, the "Rehash" comment was in regards to his case, there is no new information and it's a back and forth and make the thread noisier than it needs to be, in reality it wouldn't be a very busy thread if we just discussed the performances and left people to think what they already do as I don't think I've seen a single person change their view yet
But, as we've discussed, not everybody requires the same level of proof as you, so these kind of things affect the book value of a company asset.
Rattled.