I half think Richard Arnold leaked the Greenwood reintegration plan to Crafton to gauge the reaction of the fans and general public and then went onto make his decision to move Greenwood away from the club. If so, well played.
Mason Greenwood | Please be respectful and stay on topic
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Yeah he's totally innocent. Those recordings meant nothing. I don't care what that statement says, if they truly believe he was innocent United would come out a explain why he's innocent in their eyes. If United had evidence in their findings to support their claim, do you not think informing the fans would work on their favour?
I’m not sure on that. Discussions will be taking place about the possibility at PL clubs right now.
This has what’s pissed me off. But if the public backlash hadn’t have been so (rightfully) strong, he’d be coming back.
This club is rotten, but it’s fanbase and those desperate to see this Bloke play for us again, just because he’s better in theory than some of the crap we currently have playing for us is tragic.
You clearly have no idea of domestic abuse and I'd give it a rest if I were you..
I wouldn't be so quick to assume they'll buy him. If he whole point of their national football project is to push their human rights issues out of people's minds, signing this guy is very counterproductive for them.
People are entitled to their opinions right or wrong. You are falsely accusing someone of rape with little evidence…
More great news - bye!
It implies there is evidence that is contrary to what we saw online.
People don't want to believe so because they already made up their mind, but the fact is that's 2 separate sources now that have said there is evidence to the contrary that is not in the public domain.
Still despite this, people will still stick to their guns and pretend they know what went on
Why is the decision obviously correct? You say that due process has been ignored. At the same time without that having happened, you also knew what the right decision should have been?
Your last line is correct. People are just being hypocrites here. It's social media pressure. I'm just surprised that a country that let a prime minister get away with so much finally found its courage when it came to this one specific player. It's not even like they're saying this is symptomatic of a wider problem etc. Nope. Just... this guy here, officer, shoot him.
Jesus fecking Christ.
Stupid that it has taken this long.
The same poster is citing 'wankers' in his original post.
If you followed Adam Crafton's reporting in the last few days, the club was about to announce his return a few weeks ago. He leaked internal documents outlining the entire plan and I'm certain it had a factor in this decision to U-turn.
Sorry, I've got a witness here that swears I never said the insult that I posted. I've legally been proven not guilty.
It's difficult to understand their statement.
They have banged on about a duty of care towards an individual who has been affiliated with the club since the age of 7. Obviously that reaches a certain point where you can't defend him which you imagine in this case has been reached.
But they come out and defend his actions, ignore the last paragraph and they have basically given the go-ahead for him to return. I still think they will bring him back depending on the scrutiny he receives elsewhere. It's clear that was the main attention two weeks ago but now it's shifted due to public opinion being that strong. I think they will loan him out to see if he's still got it (let's not forget, he was an incredible prospect but he hasn't played competitive football during his most important years) and secondly how the scrutiny is and whether he can handle it.
If he goes abroad to Serie A and bangs in goals, he'll be back I have no doubt. Man Utd are too commercial to throw away a £100m player. He's 2x the player of Antony before all this happened.
They have banged on about a duty of care towards an individual who has been affiliated with the club since the age of 7. Obviously that reaches a certain point where you can't defend him which you imagine in this case has been reached.
But they come out and defend his actions, ignore the last paragraph and they have basically given the go-ahead for him to return. I still think they will bring him back depending on the scrutiny he receives elsewhere. It's clear that was the main attention two weeks ago but now it's shifted due to public opinion being that strong. I think they will loan him out to see if he's still got it (let's not forget, he was an incredible prospect but he hasn't played competitive football during his most important years) and secondly how the scrutiny is and whether he can handle it.
If he goes abroad to Serie A and bangs in goals, he'll be back I have no doubt. Man Utd are too commercial to throw away a £100m player. He's 2x the player of Antony before all this happened.
So it took the club 1.6 years to reach a decision and write 2 paragraphs about it. Wow, I'm sure a thorough inquiry has been completed by our masterminds.
An extended 1-2 years loan would have made more sense, time will tell how good will he become, as a footballer, nobody can predict that now.
An extended 1-2 years loan would have made more sense, time will tell how good will he become, as a footballer, nobody can predict that now.
You're right. He was innocent anyway by presumption and no one has yet been able to overturn that in court. Nor has he had a chance to say his own side of the story.
Jesus Christ
It’s not well played, it’s pathetic. The public were always going to be against it, how could they already not have been well aware of that? I’m baffled so many people in this thread, some who I thought were reasonably sensible, actually seem sad he’s not coming back.
Or at least the story he has been told by Mason and his GF.
Regardless, it would be a huge distraction. Especially at a time when United are dealing with so many other issues including a club sale, stripping of a captaincy and poor form.
It won't happen. The lad had issues before this. Mega talented but I think it likey he wouldn't have fulfilled his potential anyway.
Club statement is terrible. Comes across as "we wanted to keep him but because of you touchy sods, have to give up on prize asset, thanks a bunch"
I personally think the decision is correct just because it would be a massive distraction to the team.
Some of you guys need to read, it doesn't say that we are selling him och terminating his contract. It says the following:
All those involved, including Mason, recognise the difficulties with him recommencing his career at Manchester United. It has therefore been mutually agreed that it would be most appropriate for him to do so away from Old Trafford, and we will now work with Mason to achieve that outcome.
Notice the use of the word recommencing and not continuing which would imply that it will be an initial loan before a new decision will be made.
I still wonder where this outrage where when Chelsea bought [Irrelevant point] who killed a girl in a drunk driving accident and then payed of her family to avoid a sentence in jail?
All those involved, including Mason, recognise the difficulties with him recommencing his career at Manchester United. It has therefore been mutually agreed that it would be most appropriate for him to do so away from Old Trafford, and we will now work with Mason to achieve that outcome.
Notice the use of the word recommencing and not continuing which would imply that it will be an initial loan before a new decision will be made.
I still wonder where this outrage where when Chelsea bought [Irrelevant point] who killed a girl in a drunk driving accident and then payed of her family to avoid a sentence in jail?
Terrible statement for the only correct decision.
Club is looking more horrible as time goes on.
Club is looking more horrible as time goes on.
Or that witnesses have made different statements. Unless you specifically know, it could be anything.
I have a feeling whoever has have been asked to put something together that doesn't contradict the decision to bring him back. It becomes quite apparent the whole aim was to bring him back and paint it all as "we don't know the whole story". It aligns very much with that.
Well this thread is a real character litmus test.
Well no, club would have looked WAY worse if he actually came back...
Exactly this is the sad thing that this new evidence people are clinging is just her making up a story to save him.
If United had to bin him because of all the virtue-signalling backlash, there's no way he can play for a PL club.
Such a weird sentiment considering Greenwood has already earned fortune at United and will now continue to earn more than vast majority of people at the Caf elsewhere in the world
I can’t understand people talking about football side (We need attackers) of this when it comes to this. There is some things in life you need to stand for or stand against.
This is correct decision although the statement is wierd to say at least.
This is correct decision although the statement is wierd to say at least.
Well I'm sure clubs will be lining up to have him, right?
Bye then.
I'm just guessing. There's no way it was all made up. They aren't saying it's all made up but there's probably some context involved, probably exaggerated.
It's the only explanation for there being more proof and a full recording. The problem is for Greenwood and United is that it would most likely make the wife look bad if there is such evidence as they claim. Now leaving a young lady to be abused by an entire fanbase/Andrew Tate fanboys isn't exactly the right thing to do.
At the end of the day, if he didnt do what was accused like they claim, and it was all some sort of misunderstanding, it could have all been cleared up very quickly with a short statement from the girl. But she didnt. Not a peep.
The club has told us what it was, and its the full recording.
Regardless I'm not even saying he is innocent, I'm saying those going around claiming he is definitely guilty are the problem. Because QUITE CLEARLY from 2 difference source there is doubt