Yes I'm so bitter. It is evey player and fans dream to win the French league. A voice for the farmers and all
Messi v Ronaldo | Contains double your daily salt allowance
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I know. Carry on that way. It's amusing to the rest of us.
It’s so obvious isn’t it?
Usually they are not but RVP's vs Spain is up there with the best goals.
I love Messi, but come on, while Messi against is more important, due to it being in the final but greater goal?
now Messi vs Madrid and Bayern in the semis, now those two have a debate.
Messi can go feck himself. Ronaldo is the absolute GOAT of football, confirmed today. 
One is doing it in the EPL at 37 another is in a retirement league.
Cut from a different cloth.
Cut from a different cloth.
Ronaldo keeps adding these fairytale moments to his highlight reel. Wins the game with two late goals to break the world record a week ago, marks his return home with two crucial goals today. Great players produce great moments. No-one produces great moments as frequently as Ronaldo. If real life was a movie he'd be criticised for being too much of a Mary Sue.
2 goals against a farmers team.
To still be doing it at this age is phenomenonal.
I'm so bitter ronaldo just scored 2 goals on his return to the premier league. Fuming.
It's good Messi is covid banned else how would I ever get over his destruction of the mighty clement foot.
The irony
This. I wish this thread would die though. Nobody gives a feck about that little cnut playing in that shithouse league.
***** choose Messi because of ‘talent’
Winners take Ronnie because of winning
Winners take Ronnie because of winning
More interesting and storied career definitely belongs to Ronaldo.
Straw haired, gangly teenager comes to Manchester from Sporting, grows into the best player in the world over 6 years and wins his team the Champions League.
Goes to Real Madrid and becomes the most feared goalscorer in world football, winning the CL 3 times in a row.
Tries his hand at Série A and wins the league there too, scoring over 100 goals in 3 seasons
He returns home to the club that grew him and nurtured him under the best club manager of all time, and scores a brace on his debut at nearly 37 years old, coached by one of Ferguson’s own.
During that period, he also managed to win his countries only major honor in their history whilst becoming the highest goalscorer in the history of international football.
There is a massive debate to be had about the best footballer, but he is going to do enough here to put the “best career” question far beyond Messi.
It has been absolutely magical.
Straw haired, gangly teenager comes to Manchester from Sporting, grows into the best player in the world over 6 years and wins his team the Champions League.
Goes to Real Madrid and becomes the most feared goalscorer in world football, winning the CL 3 times in a row.
Tries his hand at Série A and wins the league there too, scoring over 100 goals in 3 seasons
He returns home to the club that grew him and nurtured him under the best club manager of all time, and scores a brace on his debut at nearly 37 years old, coached by one of Ferguson’s own.
During that period, he also managed to win his countries only major honor in their history whilst becoming the highest goalscorer in the history of international football.
There is a massive debate to be had about the best footballer, but he is going to do enough here to put the “best career” question far beyond Messi.
It has been absolutely magical.
You’re damn right I just changed my vote
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Fascinating read by Jonathan Liew on Ronaldo's greatness and his fanboys' obsession with Messi. A nice excerpt:
Delve into the howling wildernesses of the internet, on sites such as Reddit and 4chan and men’s fitness forums, and what Ronaldo embodies above all is something larger than simply goals and medals. To a certain cross-section of disaffected young males from which he seems to draw the core of his fanbase, he represents a sort of ultimate masculinity: vindication, vengeance, pride, indestructibility, physical dominance, the satisfaction of crushing your enemies underfoot. Ronaldo wins, and so by extension everyone else – including the “manlet” Messi – loses.
Perhaps something for the more rabid Ronaldo fanboys on here to reflect on.
Delve into the howling wildernesses of the internet, on sites such as Reddit and 4chan and men’s fitness forums, and what Ronaldo embodies above all is something larger than simply goals and medals. To a certain cross-section of disaffected young males from which he seems to draw the core of his fanbase, he represents a sort of ultimate masculinity: vindication, vengeance, pride, indestructibility, physical dominance, the satisfaction of crushing your enemies underfoot. Ronaldo wins, and so by extension everyone else – including the “manlet” Messi – loses.
Perhaps something for the more rabid Ronaldo fanboys on here to reflect on.
“Fascinating”
Definitely the worst thing I've read this year.
In the best league in the world though..
Is it about toxic masculinity?
I'm fine with people prefering Messi or Ronaldo but those comments about Ronaldo "doing it in the PL" after 2 goals against Newcastle are pretty ridiculous. No way to know if he's still "doing it" after at least half of the season.
Tbf most here are united fans. His goals mean something to us. For neutrals Messi's goals in ligue 1 won't really carry much gravity.
Is this even a debate anymore?
Not on this forum it ain’t. Vote needs resetting.
Incredible really how close their stats are when it comes to goals, trophies, individual acclaims, and so on - but I guess if they hadn't been this wouldn't have been much of a debate. However, having watched them over the years, albeit sporadically, I don't think it's that close.
I’m sorry but this is nonsense.
I love Ronaldo, more than Messi in fact, but the notion that he can put the question “far beyond Messi” is very biased.
Messi was diagnosed as basically a dwarf as a child. He would later going on to become arguably the greatest ever after signing his first pro contract on a napkin.
Not to mention he will likely retire with more Ballon D’or’s.
Sorry, his career just doesn’t have the romantic side that Ronaldo’s does. It’s perfectly summed up by the reaction the goals got today. It means more than a two year holiday in Paris. It just reads more impressively for me as a career.
Messi is more naturally gifted but Ronaldo is still going strong in a top league at nearly 37. He won trophies at different clubs. He made different great teams into world class one and he gave his nation their first every major honour.
If I could choose a career, it is Ronaldo’s and I wouldn’t even need to think about it. His career has been a far more varied and it’s a far more interesting story for me, and I think it’s a no contest as to which one looks more exciting on paper.
Their final major moves summed it up for me. It’s not nonsense at all. It’s not bias to have an opinion about their careers and that’s mine.
*Ronaldo also has the humble beginnings part of the story sewn up. Messi once being very short and receiving steroid treatment until he wasn’t that short anymore is hardly inspiring.
against NewcastleMessi can go feck himself. Ronaldo is the absolute GOAT of football, confirmed today.
doesnt matter, Newcastle are woeful
except head to head Messi owned Ronaldo
EPL vs French League. Clear for me
yeah Messi’s playmaking settles it
Messi didn't score on his debut for PSG? Wow.
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From my viewing of this thread, it seems it's the other way round mate. Where the Messi stans are affronted that someone can hold the subjective opinion that they prefer Ronaldo. That somehow it's an undisputable and objective fact that he's the greatest of all time (spoiler alert: it isn't, and my personal opinion is that it's Maradona)
I mean, if you don't get the fact that we're joking about the whole debate then it's your problem.against Newcastle
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