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Messi v Ronaldo | Contains double your daily salt allowance
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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If Ronaldo didn't play for Real or United with al the press/fans they have behind he wouldn't be in the discussion against Messi.
May I remind you Messi was winning titles and finishing in the top 3 of the Ballon d'Or while Marca/As and Spanish tv's were comparing him with Robinho, Sneijder or Robben?
Yes thats true, but I dont think it matters when judging the too. And to prevent confusion, by by far I didnt mean that the difference in the teams now is bigger than it used to be vice versa. Just that Real are by far better now imo, think their keeper, defence and full backs, midfield are better than Barcelona's.
Of cos including 09/10 would distort the figures in Messi's favor. Presumably you think players don't need anytime to adapt to a new league
If Messi didn't play for Barca, Ronaldo would have about 8 Ballon D'or.
Reminder that Messi is 2 years younger and his stats at Ronaldo's age will quite comfortably be much better.
Based on?
Messi has a better scoring rate than Ronaldo, more team or individual titles, he has been the heart of this team for 10 years, the same guys who went 5 years without a title (Puyol, Xavi, or Valdes) won two trebles while playing with Messi, not Rivaldo, Kluivert or Ronaldinho
If it was Ronaldo the one who edged Messi in every single stat while being 2 years younger you might have a point, but in this case you're missing the plot. The question would be what would be Cristiano's career had he stayed in Manchester his whole career, like Messi has done so far
If Messi is having the better season then clearly Ronaldo is not the best player in the world, right?
@Cal? the point is the scoring is a non point, because it's so similar. Look at where Ronaldo spends most of his time on the field and look at where messi spends his. Who's goal scoring tally is more impressive?
Well this kind of disproves your point. Even after Ronaldo "adapted" (which he really didn't need to considering how bloody good he was
) , Messi is still outscoring him despite being good at all the other stuff.It's a shame because people seem to think it's Ronaldo's stats that can sep him apart when really, they don't.Well this kind of disproves your point. Even after Ronaldo "adapted" (which he really didn't need to considering how bloody good he was
Lukaku is having a better season than Aguero, is he the better player?
Messi played 62 games in that one season?
There's clearly something wrong with your stats
As I've already pointed out, even without checking there's clearly something wrong with those figuresWell this kind of disproves your point. Even after Ronaldo "adapted" (which he really didn't need to considering how bloody good he was
Messi has outscored and outplayed Ronaldo since the former moved to Liga. Even if goals are all that matter (which they don't imo), Messi still edges it. Messi isn't out playing or outscoring Ronaldo for a one off season. And irrespective of the past, if Messi is out performing Ronaldo, he's the best player in the world right?
Maybe the season they had CWC, I'm guessing.
PS: Wasn't it the year when Pedro scored in every competition or something?
I don't even know what this means. Messi has been fantastic, and so has Ronaldo. There's no need to prove one is better than the other.
It's only natural they'll be debated. They're the two greatest of our generation and of all time.
Sorry my bad math it's 373 in 363
No doubt, although I'm always amused by how sure some people are when they pontificate that one is better than the other.
No, because Agüero has won more trophies than Lukaku and has been superior more years. Same as Messi against Ronaldo
Basically, you're saying something in the line of "Manchester City are the best team in Manchester", that's your personal opinion, but not an objective statement
That first goal was incredible. Absolutely out of this world in terms of balance and dribbling.
There's no need to debate if a Jaffa cake is a cake or a biscuit but people's always will haha
Maradona was better than Ronaldo.
So basically Ronaldo has a higher scoring rate either way? Interesting
1'0284 per game vs 1'0275
Brutal advantage, now imagine if Messi didn't had to drop 20 meters deeper to create plays or wanted to kick every pk instead of giving them to Suarez or Neymar. Shocker
What's the assist stats like?
He was invisible in both finals, Messi is in the discussion of the best players ever, Cristiano is not better than Fat Ronaldo.
Since they started it's 0,23 per match for Cristiano and 0,33 for Messi for both club and country.
Who says Messi "has" to drop deeper?
Feck me those stats. And Messi is more than 2 years younger.
Are you sure about those figures?
It's like arguing over Mozart and Beethoven.
With each of their fanboys 100% sure one is better than the other.
Odd statement considering Ronaldo relies purely on his physical attributes, Messi doesn't.
Love Ronaldo but he's no Messi
Basically my way of thinking, both incredible players, but Messi just does things other players can't. His first goal today was unbelievable. Comparing stats is pointless because they're just about head to head and have always been, so we need to compare other aspects of their game and I think Messi just edges it.
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