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Difference is Bellerin threw himself in Pogba's way and Pogba had nowhere to go. Benatia threw himself into Vasquez.
I dont think he goes down as easy if he wasn't already hunched over and Benatia is probably thinking he needs to get across to block a shot.
The ineptitude of the Madrid player ended up being quite brilliant.
 

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So you are fine to criticize a guy because he may hypothetically make a wrong decision in a fantasy situation? Alright Bojan, carry on.
No I’m basing it on his past performances.

If you bothered reading this thread then you’d realise that. This thread wasn’t made because Michael Oliver is a fantastic referee, so yeah carry on fishy.
 

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I’m normally all for abusing Michael Oliver, has a tendency to be an appalling referee... but he got that decision spot on. Benatia caught out of position and panicked. Clear penalty.
 

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Actually, looking the analysis, Benatia literally barely touched him with his right hand. I thought it was a clear push, but definitely doesn't look like watching it again. Very soft penalty.
 

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Buffon should have knocked Oliver out. Soft penalty, I still don't think there is enough in it. Player is looking for it before he hits the floor. People say he went though the back of him are talking crap. I'm still glad Real are through because they will put out you know who. Annoyed for Buffon, that's not how it should have ended in CL for him.
 

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Seen it 50 times now. Still can't figure out how that is a penalty.

If that is a penalty, then almost every incident of players touching each other inside the penalty-area is a penalty
 

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Could it be possible he got it wrong even though it was the right decision? Like he just had a guess, because he's such a clueless cnut he's incapable of deciding whether he's having weetabix or frosties tomorrow.
 

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Thing is. . . I'm pretty sure that Oliver could have sent off all of those Juventus players protesting.

So why did he choose Buffon?

Because he wanted to be the centre of attention. . . The guy who sent off Buffon in his last ever CL match.
It did seem like Buffon was the one leading it. He was certainly the most aggressive. And he was handling it. If any of them deserved to be sent off it was him. Sure, you can criticise Oliver's inconsistency for not sending Joe Hart off, but that incident was the mistake, not this one.
 

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50/50 pen. Never a stonewaller as some suggest. He wasnt sure himself and looked at the other officials for a reaction
 

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Because he was screaming in face from an inch away ffs.

I don't understand how anyone can have any sympathy with him he was acting like an absolute cnut and got what he deserved.
Yea well . . . Don't become a referee then.

I saw 6 or 7 players shouting at Oliver.

Question is why he choose only Buffon. He should have sent them all off.
 

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I think it was highly contestable, but can see why it was given.
 

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No I’m basing it on his past performances.

If you bothered reading this thread then you’d realise that. This thread wasn’t made because Michael Oliver is a fantastic referee, so yeah carry on fishy.
In fairness you're talking absolute fecking horseshit. He quite clearly got both calls right, and you're criticizing him for imaginary things he didn't do.
 

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No one is going to miss English refs in the WC that much is certain.
The only reason why Oliver got the match is because UEFA nominated no English to go to the WC.
 

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Yea well . . . Don't become a referee then.

I saw 6 or 7 players shouting at Oliver.

Question is why he choose only Buffon. He should have sent them all off.
Buffon's behaviour was comfortably the most aggressive and volatile.
 

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50/50 pen. Never a stonewaller as some suggest. He wasnt sure himself and looked at the other officials for a reaction
I'm confident in saying that 10 times out of 10 that penalty gets awarded with VAR.
 

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There were instances like that several times during the game on set pieces, and he did feck all. It doesn't take a genius to know why he gave that penalty; it wasn't because it was an obvious foul, it was because he wanted to show his authority over the game.

If Oliver reffed the whole game by the standards of that penalty; there would have been multiple penalties during the game. That is the type of game it was, players were all over each other for the whole 90 minutes.
 

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Seen the incident many times now from different angles and still can't make up my mind. So I guess awarding the pen is fine.
 

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Yea well . . . Don't become a referee then.

I saw 6 or 7 players shouting at Oliver.

Question is why he choose only Buffon. He should have sent them all off.
Have you actually watched the incident?

If you have and can't work out why Buffon's been the one singalled out then I really don't know what to say. It's just wilful blindness.
 

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I think both sides could make a reasonable case for the penalty incident. Soft pen for me. What baffled me was how much time as actually added on afterwards? The Sczesney substitution + Madrid celebrating etc, why did Oliver just add a minute or probably less?
 

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No I’m basing it on his past performances.

If you bothered reading this thread then you’d realise that. This thread wasn’t made because Michael Oliver is a fantastic referee, so yeah carry on fishy.
I say he would have awarded the penalty in that hypothetical scenario. Now, prove me wrong.
 

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Buffon's behaviour was comfortably the most aggressive and volatile.
They were all aggressive and volatile.

The "most" aggressive gets sent off?
 

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In fairness you're talking absolute fecking horseshit. He quite clearly got both calls right, and you're criticizing him for imaginary things he didn't do.
No I’m making the point that he’s a inconsistent ref and shouldn’t even be in a position to referee that sort of game. Imaginary things? It’s pretty much known he always is swayed by the home crowd in every game he officiates.

The pen was soft at best.
 

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There were instances like that several times during the game on set pieces, and he did feck all. It doesn't take a genius to know why he gave that penalty; it wasn't because it was an obvious foul, it was because he wanted to show his authority over the game.

If Oliver reffed the whole game by the standards of that penalty; there would have been multiple penalties during the game. That is the type of game it was, players were all over each other for the whole 90 minutes.
In what fictional football game was there an incident exactly like the one involving Vazquez and Benatia?

Oliver gave a penalty because he applied the laws of the game.
 

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Can those who are insistent that it was either not a pen or soft because Vasquez only got a soft push in the back explain why they're ignoring Benetia rapping his leg around Vazquez's chest?
 

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It did seem like Buffon was the one leading it. He was certainly the most aggressive. And he was handling it. If any of them deserved to be sent off it was him. Sure, you can criticise Oliver's inconsistency for not sending Joe Hart off, but that incident was the mistake, not this one.
We don’t know what was said but surely you give a yellow for protesting. It’s never worth a red card unless they get physical.
 

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No I’m making the point that he’s a inconsistent ref and shouldn’t even be in a position to referee that sort of game. Imaginary things? It’s pretty much known he always is swayed by the home crowd in every game he officiates.

The pen was soft at best.
You're letting your hatred and bias cloud your judgement, the only explanation for criticizing a ref for making the right calls.
 

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I dislike Oliver and think he’s shit, but he was spot on there with both calls. Maybe the red card was a bit harsh, but Buffon certainly gave him the chance.
 

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I think both sides could make a reasonable case for the penalty incident. Soft pen for me. What baffled me was how much time as actually added on afterwards? The Sczesney substitution + Madrid celebrating etc, why did Oliver just add a minute or probably less?
The incident happened in the 92nd minute, therefore 2 mins of the added three were accounted for.

It’s irrelevant how long the incident took, Oliver should add time for that.

Bizarre criticism of the ref across the board for me. It’s soft, but by the laws of the game that is 100% correct.
 

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There's no doubt the refs are on their side. You don't really stand a chance. Everytime things get close the refs swing it their way again. The penalty was extremely soft. You can see Vazquez preparing to fall before the leg of Benatia comes in his direction. With the speed he was coming with from behind Vazquez had to end up falling further forward with that force. There may have been slight contact but not enough to warrant the fall that he made. He even looked around for the refs reaction. This is someone looking for the penalty. It's not acceptable for referees to ruin games in this manner. It's not a stonewall penalty. So why give it if there's some doubts? A BS call from Oliver.