Moises Caicedo

[FrankDrebin]

Could have had him for £5m. Instead we're interested when he'll be like £75m. So typical.

We would've c*cked up his development to be fair. I mean, look at our two recent high profile young players we've signed in Amad and Pellestri. We don't know what to do with them.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

Monitoring, register interest, enquire, deadline passed. “We tried”.

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Does weighing up come before or after monitoring?

 

[Swedish_Plumber]

Sums us up if we pay huge bucks for him now

 

[Robbie Boy]

We would've c*cked up his development to be fair. I mean, look at our two recent high profile young players we've signed in Amad and Pellestri. We don't know what to do with them.

Exactly. Brighton are incredibly good at not just spotting young talent, but also nurturing them and phasing them info the first team properly.

 

[sglowrider]

Could have had him for £5m. Instead we're interested when he'll be like £75m. So typical.

Think it was a little less than that. I bet Vickery will be saying I told you so soon!

 

[sewey89]

Problem is we as a club think we're too "big" to get these kids in and play them while they're still learning, same with Pellestri and Amad, just give them game time, can they really be worse than Rashford and Elanga?

We could have got Enzo Fernandez, Caicedo and Alvarez for £35m combined.

Indeed, it’s so frustrating that we never seem to get them in, but I don’t get the “LOL, the clubs a joke” about this. He’s gone to Brighton and proved he’s good enough for the league now, so let’s get him in now

 

[pocco]

Was just on about him today to somebody

He's the energy we need. Would be a top signing.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Thought he didn't want to come?

I thought we couldn't get a work permit or something

 

[pascell]

I thought we couldn't get a work permit or something

It was too many different agents involved, too tricky for Woodward to get his head around, yet Brighton handled it with ease.

 

[pocco]

I'm of the mind that this could be the best signing we could make. He reminds me of Kante at Leicester, incredible energy and a lot of quality. He'd be the man for ETH to use as a standard for effort for the rest of them.

 

[Harry190]

What a screw up job.

 

[Ekeke]

Yeah this one has the makings of a 30 million signing after being available for cheap and being linked in the media when he was cheap

 

[VP89]

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Could have got him from the beginning

Im sure this is BS anyway, is this reporter reliable?

 

[saik]

Thought he didn't want to come?

I thought we couldn't get a work permit or something

Yeah, this is how I remember it. It was more of him not wanting to come to Utd rightaway for development purposes rather than us rejecting him back then.

 

[redcucumber]

Yeah this one has the makings of a 30 million signing after being available for cheap and being linked in the media when he was cheap

Very much doubt they'll accept £30m. Every man and his dog know how desperate we are.

 

[sglowrider]

Thought he didn't want to come?

I think he was hoping for united to come for him. But the deal was too complicated with 3rd party ownership etc that we pulled out. Brighton was willing to wade through the murky waters.

 

[Bubz27]

Think it's extremely unlikely Brighton sell anyway, after Cucurella and Bissouma.

 

[Castia]

I remember when he almost joined us. Another master stroke by us.

 

[mu4c_20le]

It was too many different agents involved, too tricky for Woodward to get his head around, yet Brighton handled it with ease.

 

[The Boy]

It was too many different agents involved, too tricky for Woodward to get his head around, yet Brighton handled it with ease.

Brighton didn’t handle it with ease, it was a very complicated transfer. The advantage we had is that we had dealt with a number of the same people a year or two earlier when we did the Billy Arce transfer.

 

[luke511]

Indeed, it’s so frustrating that we never seem to get them in, but I don’t get the “LOL, the clubs a joke” about this. He’s gone to Brighton and proved he’s good enough for the league now, so let’s get him in now

Yep there's nothing hilarious about paying Brighton an extra £60 million for a season's worth of development in the Premier League, in a position where we could've quite easily developed him ourselves.

 

[Thiagoal]

He seems like a decent player but I think some are going overboard. He’s certainly no prime Makalele yet and I’m not sure how good he’s look in the midst of our lot

 

[Nicoseth]

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Well as long as we're weighing it up - that's all that matters.

 

[Name Changed]

We don't develop players. He would have got worse had he joined us. Our recent record with developing young players isn't exactly stellar.

 

[El Capitano]

That's clearly nonsense. He was a complete unknown, a punt by Brighton. It worked out very well for them, but it's not like he was the obvious next superstar we decided to pass on

Do you even watch South American qualifiers? He certainly was not an unknown. He’s proven himself with the best in the continent.

 

[Blood Mage]

A player we should have been looking at earlier in the window when we could have got him for a reasonable price. Brighton would fleece us now and rightly so. The arrogance of this club to think that we could get away without signing a DM this summer, reality has hit home now but it's probably too late.

 

[ThierryHenry14]

Somehow li

Yep there's nothing hilarious about paying Brighton an extra £60 million for a season's worth of development in the Premier League, in a position where we could've quite easily developed him ourselves.

I am curious which player has developed while playing for Man Utd lately.

 

[blackhawk747]

he only played 8 times last season and loaned out to belgium. Some of the brigton fans already talk about him being a flop. Where is this rumor come from?

 

[sglowrider]

Somehow li

I am curious which player has developed while playing for Man Utd lately.

Mason.

 

[UTAretro]

As a Brighton fan, the comments here are an almost carbon-copy repeat of the Cucurella/Ben White threads on the Chelsea/Manchester City/Leeds forums. It’s very interesting to view other team’s opinions on our players, especially bigger teams than us like Manchester United.

Can I just clarify a few things about our club, to hopefully help a little with your understanding of how the Albion operate?

Our policy is essentially moneyball, we sign and develop these very promising young players by giving them a development plan into first team football. Ben White played one season of Premier League football - sold for £50m. Cucurella one season of PL football - sold for £60m.

Our chairman Tony Bloom has a policy of “nobody is for sale” with our best players. We don’t slap price tags on players, we simply reject bids until they become impossible to decline financially. Anything you read in the press about “Brighton demanding X figure” is clickbait nonsense.

Brighton rejected bids of £25m, then £30m from Leeds for Ben White, eventually getting double the original offer. We rejected a £30m bid from Manchester City, eventually getting double the original offer.

Which brings me to fan expectations of bigger clubs when it comes to securing our players. There is an expectation from some (not all) fans of clubs like United, that they just need to come in and make a bid with a price tag *they* feel is acceptable, and the deal will be done.

“Let’s just pay £30m and get Caicedo”.

This is never how it has worked with our club under Tony Bloom. Caicedo will not be available for £30m.

Even when Manchester City’s shenanigans trying to force a move (their manipulation of Fabrizio Romano via Cucurella’s agent) were apparent, and drew a transfer request from the player, Brighton’s transfer and contract policy completely protected them from lowball offers.

Brighton transfer policy is very clear, they offer long contracts (4-5 years), they do not allow release clauses, they do not allow buy-back clauses when purchasing or request them when selling. Every deal is a one and done, straight shot.

Whether it’s Manchester United, Real Madrid or PSG the policy is the same. We only sell if we don’t want the player, or if the offer becomes outrageous.

£30m, as an example given above by an optimistic poster, is not a realistic offer.

Caicedo, aged 20, with three years left on his deal, playing in the top league in the world, with no release clauses, with the club having no financial need or obligation to sell… realistically the transfer fee would be in the £60-80m region.

I know lots will know this already, but I’m already seeing the same comments repeating from the other forums. The days of big clubs going and taking talent from the “lesser” clubs for pennies is over I’m afraid guys.

 

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[Mickeza]

They aren’t going to sell him. Unless he has some release clause that isn’t public knowledge we’re wasting our time. Again.

 

[avgp_1]

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Too late, we will be charged Frenkie sums here. Is he much better than Doucoure for example, I don't think so.

Look for cheaper alternatives across Europe

 

[Infra-red]

Could have had him for £5m. Instead we're interested when he'll be like £75m. So typical.

It's farcical. Predictable, but farcical.

 

[pocco]

Too late, we will be charged Frenkie sums here. Is he much better than Doucoure for example, I don't think so.

Look for cheaper alternatives across Europe

I think he could be as good as Kante. Let's see who is closer to the truth.

 

[JJ12]

Too late, we will be charged Frenkie sums here. Is he much better than Doucoure for example, I don't think so.

Look for cheaper alternatives across Europe

What are you basing that on

We had our chance with this one, though. And fecked it as per.

 

[Mainoldo]

Love the could of had him for £5m

like Ole would of played him and he’d be the player we see today. He’d be in the same category as Amad and Facundo which is why I prefer for these players to make the Brighton type move.

 

[pocco]

Not ideal give we could have had him cheaper. But we did a similar thing with Sancho. It would still be a good move for big money I think, he will make a huge difference to our midfield. He's practically a 2-midfielders-for-1 package, he mops up all over the pitch. Go back and watch his latest game against us, killing attacks on both sides of the pitch, breakaways etc. He had their keeper pinging balls to him with Mctominay on his back and he'd not only get away from Mctominay but initiate attacks.

 

[avgp_1]

I think he could be as good as Kante. Let's see who is closer to the truth.

Palace player Doucoure, you think the difference is that big?

 

[Chief123]

Why are we so hell bent on chasing transfers which start off already very difficult to complete.