RedTillI'mDead
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Clearly he doesn't, because in that conversation, we made FOUR birds.
3 bids and one acceptance of a counter-offer ;-)
Clearly he doesn't, because in that conversation, we made FOUR birds.
seriously, your posts are hurting my eyes. Stop postingI'm talking theoretically of course, but buying a player is far from a complex business deal. Yes there is a lot to sort out regarding contracts, image rights, etc, but the basic principle of buying is pretty simple. 10 minutes might be an exaggeration as sometimes quite a few parties involved, but in principle:
Buyer: "I'm interested in X and have around £25m in mind"
Seller: "Thanks for the offer, but we don't wish to sell the player right now"
Buyer: "Could we tempt you if we up the offer to £30m"
Seller: "Thanks again, but £5m more is not going to change our minds"
Buyer: "Everyone has a price, I think we can probably stretch to £35m"
Seller: "I'll speak to the manager and get back to you"
Quick call to manager
Seller: "The manager doesn't want to sell either, but there are a couple of areas in the team we could improve, but will not sell for less than £40m"
Buyer: "I'll have a quick word with the owners"
Quick call to owners
Buyer: "We'll meet in the middle at £37.5m"
Seller: "Go on then, but we'll want a 10% sell-on clause"
Buyer "Fine, it's a deal!"
WTF Planet are you on?I'm talking theoretically of course, but buying a player is far from a complex business deal. Yes there is a lot to sort out regarding contracts, image rights, etc, but the basic principle of buying is pretty simple. 10 minutes might be an exaggeration as sometimes quite a few parties involved, but in principle:
Buyer: "I'm interested in X and have around £25m in mind"
Seller: "Thanks for the offer, but we don't wish to sell the player right now"
Buyer: "Could we tempt you if we up the offer to £30m"
Seller: "Thanks again, but £5m more is not going to change our minds"
Buyer: "Everyone has a price, I think we can probably stretch to £35m"
Seller: "I'll speak to the manager and get back to you"
Quick call to manager
Seller: "The manager doesn't want to sell either, but there are a couple of areas in the team we could improve, but will not sell for less than £40m"
Buyer: "I'll have a quick word with the owners"
Quick call to owners
Buyer: "We'll meet in the middle at £37.5m"
Seller: "Go on then, but we'll want a 10% sell-on clause"
Buyer "Fine, it's a deal!"
You'd think so for almost anything else but on this occasion it was Fergie who handed them the bait in the first place. Even he might have trouble sweeping this one under the carpet.Sir Alex would have banned them from press conferences for asking about it.
Personally I believe its more beneficial to play teams that are already into their own season. Pre-season matches are all about getting match-fit and playing against players who are sharp should present a better workout.Pre-season is largely meaningless but the quality of the opposition we've faced has been really poor. We should be doing what City are doing and playing bigger teams. It's certainly not helping us.
I'm talking theoretically of course, but buying a player is far from a complex business deal. Yes there is a lot to sort out regarding contracts, image rights, etc, but the basic principle of buying is pretty simple. 10 minutes might be an exaggeration as sometimes quite a few parties involved, but in principle:
Buyer: "I'm interested in X and have around £25m in mind"
Seller: "Thanks for the offer, but we don't wish to sell the player right now"
Buyer: "Could we tempt you if we up the offer to £30m"
Seller: "Thanks again, but £5m more is not going to change our minds"
Buyer: "Everyone has a price, I think we can probably stretch to £35m"
Seller: "I'll speak to the manager and get back to you"
Quick call to manager
Seller: "The manager doesn't want to sell either, but there are a couple of areas in the team we could improve, but will not sell for less than £40m"
Buyer: "I'll have a quick word with the owners"
Quick call to owners
Buyer: "We'll meet in the middle at £37.5m"
Seller: "Go on then, but we'll want a 10% sell-on clause"
Buyer "Fine, it's a deal!"
Pre-season is largely meaningless but the quality of the opposition we've faced has been really poor. We should be doing what City are doing and playing bigger teams. It's certainly not helping us.
Rumour has it we've been perfecting The Flying VPre season is about fitness, bedding in new players (lol) and tactical innovations.
I think we have achieved just the first objective.
Interesting to see what tactical innovations he brings.
Like so?Rumour has it we've been perfecting The Flying V
How on earth has he done that? He's made Ando fit, he's made Welbeck score goals, and Bebe suddenly knows what a cross is. What's he making them do? Or take?Nono, he's just made Valencia non-shit again.
feck off, just feck off. Bebe has always known how to cross, he just forgot for 2 games due to nerves and fickle united fans haven't let it go. Yeah, I said it.How on earth has he done that? He's made Ando fit, he's made Welbeck score goals, and Bebe suddenly knows what a cross is. What's he making them do? Or take?
I'm kidding GM, I think Bebe's an ok crosser, but needs to improve.feck off, just feck off. Bebe has always known how to cross, he just forgot for 2 games due to nerves and fickle united fans haven't let it go. Yeah, I said it.
But yeah, he's got Ando playing 3 full games in hot conditions, happy days.
It's too early to judge Moyes on any level, other than perhaps his striking resemblance to Gollum.
Isn't his job to win us trophies?Agreed. We absolutely must put our faith in him. He's not making it easy though. He couldnt quashed the Rooney saga right from the off, and if he'd done some transfer business early doors, that would've really helped get everyone onside
Raised eyebrows a plenty so far !
Why should any manager be judged upon his ability to stop muppets from getting impatient?We can judge him on signing players early, which he hasn't done.
Nothing about muppets, think most would agree the earlier a signing is complete, the better.Why should any manager be judged upon his ability to stop muppets from getting impatient?
Moyes will rightly have far more pertinent priorities.
Wouldn't most also agree that it occasionally takes time and effort to get the right man for the job? Obviously not.Nothing about muppets, think most would agree the earlier a signing is complete, the better.
I like you, you sound positive.Took the the club, already gave youngsters a good run in pre-season games, made Rooney his bitch, told him to shut up, said he will pursue the best and that's what he's doing, now. Interest in Ronaldo and Fabregas confirmed plus apparently there may be more targets, in that regard.
The only thing that can be worrying is the same, old Sir Alex's nightmare - injury plague treatment which may eventually happen and it creates a serious challenge for the whole new staff. Thankfully Rooney and Nani are still in the club, while Varela and Zaha are adding to team's depth.
Moyes, by adding two more quality players (or maybe even more) will probably have a team capable of defending the crown and easily going through CL group stage, like a storm.
4/5 so far. When the right choices shall be made on the market, with maybe a convincing win over Wigan, it will easily become a 5/5 as a little, pre-season judgement.