Irwinwastheking
Gimpier than Alex and Feeky
FA cupWould be nice for United to appoint a manager who has at least won a trophy... or got to a final of ANY competition.
FA cupWould be nice for United to appoint a manager who has at least won a trophy... or got to a final of ANY competition.
Everton were in the FA Cup final.Would be nice for United to appoint a manager who has at least won a trophy... or got to a final of ANY competition.
This season...Dortmund have been excellent playing against Europe's elite.
Busted!2009 FA cup finalist
First page of this thread.Alex McLeish.
No one will agree with me, but I think in the right league he will be a great manager
They knocked us out of the FA Cup a few years ago to get to the final. Try and keep up.Would be nice for United to appoint a manager who has at least won a trophy... or got to a final of ANY competition.
Di Matteo did even better!Alex McLeish won a league cup. We should have gone for him.
David Moyes consistently finishing upper mid-table is an over-achievement worthy of a chance to take over Manchester United? I genuinely have no idea how anyone can come to that conclusion, it's ludicrous. I don't think he's done enough to warrant a chance at the likes of Arsenal, never mind United.Irwinwastheking said:In your opinion. But in your opinion you don't see the tremendous over achievement at Everton as something worthy of an opportunity. Plenty do though.
It doesn't make you a muppet to think that one of the biggest clubs in the world shouldn't appoint a mid-table manager.Irwinwastheking said:Only an idiot would, and City are much like a lot of our more muppety supporters and would only appoint a fancy name. Chelsea the same.
He's going to be working with the England U21s isn't he?Will Phil Neville come with him I wonder?
edit: In a coaching role obviously.
Well he did win La Liga but please don't accuse me of being fair and balanced when it comes to Jose. I'm only into bashing him.Really it's ok, we're not the first manager in the world to appoint a manager who hasn't won a trophy.
Barcelona appointed Pep Guardiola.
Juventus appointed Conte who only won Seria B.
Moyes is more established than them when they were going for the big job. Doesn't mean that Moyes is going to be a very big success, but there's no guarantee of success with anyother manager. Even the Caf favorite Mourinho did average with an extremely assembled squad at Real.
OK, so if Mouinho/Klopp/Pep are all not available (as it seems) then who is the man for you?David Moyes consistently finishing upper mid-table is an over-achievement worthy of a chance to take over Manchester United? I genuinely have no idea how anyone can come to that conclusion, it's ludicrous. I don't think he's done enough to warrant a chance at the likes of Arsenal, never mind United.
It doesn't make you a muppet to think that one of the biggest clubs in the world shouldn't appoint a mid-table manager.
As did Sir Alex's United team against more inferior teams.This season...
They got shafted by Marseille, Arsenal and Olympiacos last year
That's not a consolation. That would be rubbing salt in the wounds.The only decent consolation I could think of is that he will probably sign a midfielder or two. Maybe bring Fellaini with him..
He'd be a good option, but that's a debate for another day.That's not a consolation. That would be rubbing salt in the wounds.
Contrary to internet Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime, in general, United fans have more class than that.But I am dreading the 1st "you don't know what you're doing"
I think your right in fairness. There will be pockets of muppets but I think by and large he'll get a crack at the whip from the matchgoers.Contrary to internet Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime, in general, United fans have more class than that.
I'd hate to see that curly haired feck anywhere near our team, but yes, it's for another day, another thread.He'd be a good option, but that's a debate for another day.
Well if they have the experience why not let them manage the club?Also regarding his inexperience in Europe, he'll be largely keeping the United coaching staff according to various sources(Independent etc). All of them have enough experience to compensate for Moyes's inexperience.
I am of the opposite mind - this is the time to go with "boring" - if boring means consistent and stable. Something Moyes will provide with the help of Ferguson in the background, then thank goodness.I haven't said anything of the sort either. I've given my reasons. I think there are better candidates, and Moyes to me seems like a safe, uninspiring, unimaginative appointment.
Anyone following Fergie has a tough job, but this is an opportunity to modernise our thinking and coaching, and perhaps our football. A chance to go in a different direction with possibly a young vibrant forward thinking manager, and instead we've likely gone with a rather dull, pragmatic option who plays rather dull, pragmatic football.
I suppose not. But you have to realize that if Moyes does indeed get the job it won't be because United regard his record at Everton as the most stunning resume in world football today. It will be because Sir Alex Ferguson himself has recommended him for the job. Presumably because he, SAF, sees a potential in him beyond his results.It doesn't make you a muppet to think that one of the biggest clubs in the world shouldn't appoint a mid-table manager.
They don't have the experience of managing a club?Well if they have the experience why not let them manage the club?
If Gill is saying the next man needs European experience then we should have went for someone with it. It's simple really. We should be looking at some of the managerial heavyweights. We're trying to replace the best manager ever.
Do you think it is a coincidence his contract runs out at the same time as Sir Alex quits?Does anyone think one of the reason for signing Moyes is that his contract runs out this summer so we don't have to pay a penny for him?
Personally, the main reason I'm ok about Moyes appointment is the fact that Ferguson has personally recommended him to the job. I don't think he'd have recommended anyone who could potentially ruin nearly all of his great work.Well if they have the experience why not let them manage the club?
If Gill is saying the next man needs European experience then we should have went for someone with it. It's simple really. We should be looking at some of the managerial heavyweights. We're trying to replace the best manager ever.
Thats a fair point. My main worry about Sir Alex leaving has not been what would happen in the 1-2 seasons afterwards. I think he has the squad set up so well that we will be very competitive under any manager who is fairly decent in the short term.Really it's ok, we're not the first manager in the world to appoint a manager who hasn't won a trophy.
Barcelona appointed Pep Guardiola.
Juventus appointed Conte who only won Seria B.
Moyes is more established than them when they were going for the big job. Doesn't mean that Moyes is going to be a very big success, but there's no guarantee of success with anyother manager. Even the Caf favorite Mourinho did average with an extremely assembled squad at Real.
It mattered years ago, these days you can watch absolutely any opponent on tv/live by plane. It's experience of dealing with the extra games not the opposition.Has anyone considered that "European" experience generally means feck all?
A European football match is still a football match, you can learn all you need by studying your opponents and talking to people. If you have good experience, then you have good experience for Europe.
A good manager will tweak the playing style depending on opponent and objective. Not by making drastic changes.
So their experience is only a positive enough to cover Moyes inexperience, but not positive enough for them to do the job themselves? Read what I was replying to.They don't have the experience of managing a club?
We were going to go with Sven in 2001, and I assume SAF's opinion was considered back then as well. It's quite possible to get something like this wrong.Personally, the main reason I'm ok about Moyes appointment is the fact that Ferguson has personally recommended him to the job. I don't think he'd have recommended anyone who could potentially ruin nearly all of his great work.
Exactly.Essentially they didn't have United/City/Chelsea/Arsenal/Spurs/Liverpool to contend with. If those clubs were all playing in the german league then Klopp may not have found it so easy to produce a team playing this football.
You're now bordering on facetious which is a pity as you have been one of the reasonable anti-moyes posters here today.So their experience is only a positive enough to cover Moyes inexperience, but not positive enough for them to do the job themselves? Read what I was replying to.
BBC.BREAKING NEWS
David Moyes is set to be appointed as Sir Alex Ferguson's successor at Manchester United.
An announcement could be made tomorrow afternoon.