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Another money chaser. Here we go again
Another money chaser. Here we go again
I don't understand this. You want money to stop coming into the game?My suggestions;
1. do something to cap the rising transfer, salary and agents fees. It’s a bad circle. The more the clubs generate the more the agents and players will want, the more the transfer fees will rise. Stop it now before the side effect is our leagues getting changed from what they should be all to chase money
What kind of lawlessness is thisCan they not just unseed the CL and EL so we don’t get the same bloody groups and same knockout ties each year?
Where does it say that? I don’t get how you can conclude thatI don't understand this. You want money to stop coming into the game?
But why? Why are high transfer fees so disgusting?Where does it say that? I don’t get how you can conclude that
I want transfer fees capped before we hit a player fee being €500m or something disgusting.
it’s in the clubs interests to come together and thrash out a solution, introducing new leagues is not the solution because the other costs go up
I agree with this. It's pretty boring this way and predictable which team will reach the new year in the competition.Can they not just unseed the CL and EL so we don’t get the same bloody groups and same knockout ties each year?
Also it’s obvious this is money related so feck him
It's also less accessible to a ridiculous degree. Kids largely can't afford to watch football any more, whereas it used to be on a free television channel every Saturday when I was growing up in the 90s.Kids are less interested in football than we were 20/30 years ago because what kids are watching today is much, much shitter than what we were watching in the 90s and early 2000's.
Bingo. Football is fecking expensive these days. How exactly do they expect people to buy into it at the ages when they don't have any fecking money?It's also less accessible to a ridiculous degree. Kids largely can't afford to watch football any more, whereas it used to be on a free television channel every Saturday when I was growing up in the 90s.
But Brentford wouldn't get Lionel Messi's full market value would they? A cap of e.g. £100m on transfers and £400k a week on wages would really only affect a handful of clubs and might prevent the market getting distorted by the insane (often external and unsustainable) money at the top of the game.But why? Why are high transfer fees so disgusting?
Aren't transfers how the money is naturally distributed back down through football's tiers? If Brentford somehow produce the next Lionel Messi, why do you want to cap the money they can make when/if they sell him and use it to catapult themselves up?
Yet they probably think the solution is charging more so they can raise even more money and wonder why they aren’t getting more fans.Bingo. Football is fecking expensive these days. How exactly do they expect people to buy into it at the ages when they don't have any fecking money?
I don't believe it's to do with how entertaining the football is. It's about the lack of accessibility. 20 years ago the Champions League was on terrestrial TV, alongside the UEFA cup. Even Sky Sports News was available on freeview. Now you need both Sky and BT to watch both the Premier League and Champions League. In a world with on-demand tele it's such an outdated format. It's only a matter of time before the World Cup and Euros won't be on the BBC and ITV, meaning less kids watching that as well.Kids are less interested in football than we were 20/30 years ago because what kids are watching today is much, much shitter than what we were watching in the 90s and early 2000's.
The idiots who have ruined the game, now want to ruin it further as some sort of answer to why people aren't interested.
The problem is when it results in ideas like this. One of the issues highlighted is that the EL and CL don't generate enough money to keep spending more on elite players.But why? Why are high transfer fees so disgusting?
Aren't transfers how the money is naturally distributed back down through football's tiers? If Brentford somehow produce the next Lionel Messi, why do you want to cap the money they can make when/if they sell him and use it to catapult themselves up?
These are very good points. Unfortunately, #1 is a byproduct of open leagues and free markets. The quality will suffer if you try to cap salaries and transfer fees - it's a double edged sword. I wish we are able to find balance between free markets and high transfer and agent fees. If the recent past is any evidence, players will increasingly start running down their contracts the moment their asking price goes above 100m.My suggestions;
1. do something to cap the rising transfer, salary and agents fees. It’s a bad circle. The more the clubs generate the more the agents and players will want, the more the transfer fees will rise. Stop it now before the side effect is our leagues getting changed from what they should be all to chase money
2. stop hiring boring managers like Mourinho. Get more attacking coaches and formations. Show the likes of Jose etc that their ways are no longer the best ways. I can empathise with this complaint as LVG practically turned me off football for a year
Its the same stupid mistake the music companies made when mp3s came along. It's annoying watching people make the same mistakes over and over.Yet they probably think the solution is charging more so they can raise even more money and wonder why they aren’t getting more fans.
For example, I’ve always thought that cracking down on illegal streams is against clubs interests. They think the people will stop illegally streaming and just pay £25 per month or whatever. Instead, a lot of people just stops watching. The people who can afford to pay often already pay for the subscription. You’re losing potential reach.
First the inflation in transfer fees is directly linked to the inflation in revenues. And why do you think that capping transfer fees would have the effect that you mention of agents of player fees? If anything you would simply incite clubs to give more money to agents in order to enter exclusive negotiations with their clients and you would also incite top players to ask for more money since more clubs could afford their transfer fee.The problem is when it results in ideas like this. One of the issues highlighted is that the EL and CL don't generate enough money to keep spending more on elite players.
They don't have to spend more, the market will dictate what a player is worth, but when the clubs are competing with each other to buy the best players they keep on looking for more cash with stupid ideas for new leagues rather than settling for what there is and buying within their means. A cap of some kind on transfer fees would halt the crazy inflation in agent and player fees.
First the inflation in transfer fees is directly linked to the inflation in revenues. And why do you think that capping transfer fees would have the effect that you mention of agents of player fees? If anything you would simply incite clubs to give more money to agents in order to enter exclusive negotiations with their clients and you would also incite top players to ask for more money since more clubs could afford their transfer fee.
Agreed. We need one/two CL games a week back on ITV but unfortunately those days are long gone. It's nice that BT shows the final for free but it isn't enough.I don't believe it's to do with how entertaining the football is. It's about the lack of accessibility. 20 years ago the Champions League was on terrestrial TV, alongside the UEFA cup. Even Sky Sports News was available on freeview. Now you need both Sky and BT to watch both the Premier League and Champions League. In a world with on-demand tele it's such an outdated format. It's only a matter of time before the World Cup and Euros won't be on the BBC and ITV, meaning less kids watching that as well.
The first point you've made is my point. The inflation in transfer fees is directly related to the inflation in revenues which leads to clubs endlessly searching for more revenue and suggestions of new leagues etc to be able to out-compete each other. Capping transfer fees would stop the inflation and mean that clubs are forced to stay within their means.First the inflation in transfer fees is directly linked to the inflation in revenues. And why do you think that capping transfer fees would have the effect that you mention of agents of player fees? If anything you would simply incite clubs to give more money to agents in order to enter exclusive negotiations with their clients and you would also incite top players to ask for more money since more clubs could afford their transfer fee.
Your first paragraph doesn't make sense. Clubs are able to spend more because they generate more money, as a rule they don't spend beyond their means and you are trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist with a tool that wouldn't even fix it. The suggestions for new leagues have nothing to do with clubs financial managements, it's about a few owners being greedy and trying to create cash cows.The first point you've made is my point. The inflation in transfer fees is directly related to the inflation in revenues which leads to clubs endlessly searching for more revenue and suggestions of new leagues etc to be able to out-compete each other. Capping transfer fees would stop the inflation and mean that clubs are forced to stay within their means.
Agents are a good point and there would have to be a way of capping those and player fees too.
I wonder how much of this can be avoided in truth, kids today grow up very differently to kids 10+ years ago. We live in an almost completely online era now, it's unfathomable to me that kids watch other kids gaming as a form of entertainment but it's hugely popular + participation in football in the UK (according to Statista) is declining across all age levels:His 2 main complaints;
1. CL and EL don’t generate enough money anymore to keep up with buying elite players
2. Young people being driven away because not enough entertainment anymore
I was watching Brazil road to 2002 World Cup. Amazing how Ronaldo was not taking penalties despite being in the running for the golden boot. That’s the type of football I miss .Kids are less interested in football than we were 20/30 years ago because what kids are watching today is much, much shitter than what we were watching in the 90s and early 2000's.
The idiots who have ruined the game, now want to ruin it further as some sort of answer to why people aren't interested.
It's already like that in Denmark where the international games are shown on a channel that maybe 40% own.I don't believe it's to do with how entertaining the football is. It's about the lack of accessibility. 20 years ago the Champions League was on terrestrial TV, alongside the UEFA cup. Even Sky Sports News was available on freeview. Now you need both Sky and BT to watch both the Premier League and Champions League. In a world with on-demand tele it's such an outdated format. It's only a matter of time before the World Cup and Euros won't be on the BBC and ITV, meaning less kids watching that as well.
I disagree with that. If a player was worth £50,000,000 5 years ago and is worth £100,000,000 now clubs need extra revenue to buy the same class of player. The inflation in player prices is a pretty obvious problem I think and it's not sustainable long-term. When you says it's only a few owners, pretty much every major club in Europe wanted to join a cash-cow in the summer and the only real reason for that was to gain revenue.Your first paragraph doesn't make sense. Clubs are able to spend more because they generate more money, as a rule they don't spend beyond their means and you are trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist with a tool that wouldn't even fix it. The suggestions for new leagues have nothing to do with clubs financial managements, it's about a few owners being greedy and trying to create cash cows.