What makes you I think I don't think players should be criticized? I already explained why I quoted those specific posts about Lingard. They were mostly over the top and had little to do with football.
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Asked whether his team-mates should take responsibility for Mourinho’s demise, Matic replied: “Of course. I said this also after the Liverpool game, that we have to take responsibility and do our best to play better and to win games"
Who gave him the authority to talk on behalf of the the team? He is not the captain, he is not a united legend. He should talk about himself. Pathetic.
Who gave him the authority to talk on behalf of the the team? He is not the captain, he is not a united legend. He should talk about himself. Pathetic.
I may be totally wrong but had he said 'no, not at all. It's all on Mourinho' you'd have had absolutely no problems with him speaking on behalf of the said players?
I've been heavily critical of Matic, I think everyone has been, and it's been justified with his horrendous performances in midfield, slow, labourious, wants too much time on the ball, he looks like he'd just lost it completely. However he looked a completely different player against Cardiff, we definitely do need competition and an eventual replacement because I don't think we can expect many more full seasons out of him regardless, but if he can play like this, and against better opposition, for a good while, then that's great. It kind of makes me think about Schweinsteiger and how he might of been had we had a more attacking system..
I think you just really hate Matic?
That is the only way a professional is going to answer that question.
No, I think he should say:
everyone in the club (including the manager) have some responsibility to what happened to united in the last 4 months and led to the decision.
You know.. the truth.
You should sign robots with the function of synthetic, text reading option, then. What he said is professional. He himself played very well against Cardiff so it's not like he's sulking after his dear Mourinho'd gone.
So its OK that Matic accusing the players of balking.
Using the word we pretty much means himself included. In fact that’s exactly what it means.
He included himself in his statement.
He speaks for himself, he should not include others by accusing thems of balking if he thinks he was doing that (and he was one of the worse players in the squad for the last 8 months), there were many players giving much more than him.
Clutching at straws as you probably see him as this evil Mourinho's soldier. He tells the truth which you apparently want to get: Players did down tools and played like twats. No tactics will cause Manchester United drop points repeatedly against rubbish teams.
We're past this period so can't we just enjoy it now? Or are we awaiting a shadow crew, searching for any apparent Mou or his favourites' fanboys to tell them how bonkers they were. Can't people just enjoy and breath a bit of fresh air?
We're past this period so can't we just enjoy it now? Or are we awaiting a shadow crew, searching for any apparent Mou or his favourites' fanboys to tell them how bonkers they were. Can't people just enjoy and breath a bit of fresh air?
Man Utd 3:1 Huddersfield
He was great today I thought. Been decent lately.
Looks a different player. Great game again. Hopefully we can get more of him than what we expected.
Solid game again.
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Was okayish. He's still relying on other players to do the majority of ball winning in midfield
Pogba won 2 tackles, 3 interceptions
Fred 2 tackles 1 interception in 53 mins
Ander 1 tackle 0 interceptions in 37 mins
Matic 2 tackles 0 interceptions in 90 mins
He's a bit faster moving the ball forward now, instead of taking so many touches he's okay letting the ball go a bit earlier. So he's definitely improved. But still doing half his job.
Pogba won 2 tackles, 3 interceptions
Fred 2 tackles 1 interception in 53 mins
Ander 1 tackle 0 interceptions in 37 mins
Matic 2 tackles 0 interceptions in 90 mins
He's a bit faster moving the ball forward now, instead of taking so many touches he's okay letting the ball go a bit earlier. So he's definitely improved. But still doing half his job.
Was never actually that bad. Most of the abuse he was getting was because he is liked by Mourinho.
Better again. Still very sloppy and slow on the ball at times.
I don’t mind him not necessarily doing that ball winning to be honest. If the two either side of him are doing it, as long as he’s positioning himself well enough I’m ok with that.
I thought he was a lot better again today. I’ve given the bloke some stick recently but fair play to him he’s starting to show his quality now and it’s good to see.
I will hold my hands up and admit I thought he should be benched immediately, but I couldn’t be happier to be proven wrong. Even Mourinho’s most trusted general in the team looks much better under a different manager 
Not at all. He was slated because he was crap. These two games he has raised his game a lot and had two very good games back to back. He is passing well and moving the ball a lot more quicker too.
His performances suggest that either Jose has completely forgotten how to get the best out of players or he deliberately has his players play with restrictions making them look bad because Nemanja is on some other shit right now. Long may it continue. Very good performance.
He ground all of our attacks to a stand still
Amazing what some confidence and a new manager does.
I thought he was fantastic today! His positioning was excellent and he kept forcing the Huddersfield counterattacks into the wings.
Also, he's been showing some nice tricks and flicks to get the ball up the pitch quicker. Didn't think he had that in his locker!
Also, he's been showing some nice tricks and flicks to get the ball up the pitch quicker. Didn't think he had that in his locker!
Thought he was gassed but turns out he wasn't. Another great game, it looks like we finally have a functional midfield when Herrera is on the pitch. Still not sold on Fred.
His criticism was always over the top here but it's not overly surprising as some idiots here have this need to criticise other players to big up their love objects.
His criticism was always over the top here but it's not overly surprising as some idiots here have this need to criticise other players to big up their love objects.
Mixed bag, some decent passess but struggles with runners and lingers at times on the ball. Rest him plenty and upgrade and he could still have another couple of seasons as a squad player for us IMO.
We don't give same benefit of doubt to everyone. Matic was amazing today. Recycled the ball excellently and defended brilliantly. He's looking like the player we hope we were getting for £40m. This man needs some love in here.
Top performance today.
Very good today and more purposeful with the ball since Ole came in.
Most of his hate club will be missing until his next average performance.
Most of his hate club will be missing until his next average performance.
Mentioned it in matchday thread still think he took too many touches a number of times and slowed us down.
He is way more aggressive with and without the ball and his positioning miraculously improved.
Difference of morale and confidence.
Oh he's darn good at holding the ball alright even beating players with feint touches.
I think the new high press system helps him defensively by a huge lot.
Oh he's darn good at holding the ball alright even beating players with feint touches.I think the new high press system helps him defensively by a huge lot.
Nope, he was pretty poor I thought. Still slow on the ball. DDG and the back 4 were trying to play out on every opportunity and Matic was actively making himself unavailable. He doesn't want to take the ball in pressure situations and when he does release it to team mates the ball is often underhit or behind the player, killing any momentum and putting us under unnecessary pressure.
He's the biggest problem we have in the side right now. He isn't mobile enough, which is why we had to bring Herrera on to stop us getting overrun, he rarely wins the ball back for us and he's cumbersome in possession.
He's the biggest problem we have in the side right now. He isn't mobile enough, which is why we had to bring Herrera on to stop us getting overrun, he rarely wins the ball back for us and he's cumbersome in possession.
No, that's because Fred has awful positioning.
It wasnt. If we had Ander in with Fred we wouldn't have these problems. Thats the issue you have when you have a sloth at the base of a midfield that presses. When that press from the forwards and the midfield inevitably gets passed, you need a DM Swift enough to fill the gaps. Matic simply can't do that.
I was huge critic of his, but he was much better these last two games.
Busquets was never the most mobile midfielder in the world yet he's done that at the best team in the world whose pressing was 100 times better than anybody else's. Jorginho is no sprinter either, did fine under Sarri for Napoli, seems to be doing fine for Chelsea too. So no, if Herrera was in and Fred was still leaving massive gaps like he was yesterday, he would struggle too, unless he can duplicate that is.
Edit: yesterday as in today, I struggle with Christmas time obviously.
He was slated for every single pass and blamed for nearly every goal. For some reason most of the other players deserved another shot under a different manager, he didn't. A lot of original "if he was a horse..." jokes and wishing ill for your own team's player. Those "fans" should be called out not defended.
Fair to say he's the most improved player under Ole?
He'd have been man of the match but for Pogba's quality goals imo
He'd have been man of the match but for Pogba's quality goals imo
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