So what would happen in this scenario.
1st pick - Messi
2nd pick - box 13 - drop Messi
3rd pick back on box 1 - do you have to pick someone that has played with Messi or free pick again?
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1st pick - Messi
2nd pick - box 13 - drop Messi
3rd pick back on box 1 - do you have to pick someone that has played with Messi or free pick again?
You're welcome!
@Edgar Allan Pillow is the comrade only on national level or club level as well?
Like if I pick Messi can I pick Xavi etc or only Argentinians that played with him at NT?
Like if I pick Messi can I pick Xavi etc or only Argentinians that played with him at NT?
Played with same NT as Messi. The rule is restricted to your first pick...irrespective of whether you have or drop him later on.
Guidance note is clear on that. Just national teams. So only Argentinians who have played with Messi.
Got it.
So this is not an option the as well:
1st pick Messi.
2nd pick Zanetti
3rd pick Batistuta
4th pick Maradona etc...
No, the link is with Player 1, i.e. Messi. You can only pick players who have played in NT with Messi if you land there subsequent turns.
@Edgar Allan Pillow
Regarding box 5, is it enough for the player to be in the final squad or does he have to play at one point. Example, Fenomeno if we ignore 2002. Lost in the final of 98 but "won" it in 94 without playing one second of the tournament. Would he be a valid pick?
Regarding box 5, is it enough for the player to be in the final squad or does he have to play at one point. Example, Fenomeno if we ignore 2002. Lost in the final of 98 but "won" it in 94 without playing one second of the tournament. Would he be a valid pick?
The guidance note mentions "Must have had playing time in the match (either as a started or a sub-in)"
Wasnt sure if that was just for the final or for both tournamentsThe guidance note mentions "Must have had playing time in the match (either as a started or a sub-in)"
Ah, now I understand.Wasnt sure if that was just for the final or for both tournaments
Should have made it to at least one finals (as in final last single match) but never won the tournament in their career.
I'll update that to the list.
mmm, is that too restrictive a pool?
not sure if the illness got me or im just a naturally confused guy
So whats the verdict on Fenomeno? Played and lost in the final(98) but won it in 94 even though he never played a minute, was just in the squad(for the sake of the argument we ignore the 2002 WC).
Nah, most of the runners-up never won it. Box 20 can be tricky - but I haven't checked. Especially since a red card was only introduced in 1970 iirc
He is pretty clear here, no room for an argument - never won it in their careernot sure if the illness got me or im just a naturally confused guy
So whats the verdict on Fenomeno? Played and lost in the final(98) but won it in 94 even though he never played a minute, was just in the squad(for the sake of the argument we ignore the 2002 WC).
Well, if he has won it (play or not) the he's disqualified. To break it down:not sure if the illness got me or im just a naturally confused guy
So whats the verdict on Fenomeno? Played and lost in the final(98) but won it in 94 even though he never played a minute, was just in the squad(for the sake of the argument we ignore the 2002 WC).
- NEVER have won the WC
- HAVE played in a losing team in a last single final match (starter or sub-in).
got it.
Just counting red cards I think that pool only has 7 players.
5 Players have a red card in a WC final match.
2 in a Euro Cup/CL final match
we can add something out of Euro, Copa and Europa League/Uefa Cup.
I'd pick George Best then and screw everyone thereafter
It only affects your next picks, so you'll be stuck with Sammy Nelson while others will add Garrinchas and Didis to their Peles
Just for completeness sake, although this is probably too contrived a scenario.
Did Messi played with Messi ?
R1 -> Block 1 -> Picked Messi
R2 -> Block 13 -> Dropped Messi
R3 -> Block 1 -> Nobody else has picked Messi & he is in the pool, can I pick him again ?
Did Messi played with Messi ?
R1 -> Block 1 -> Picked Messi
R2 -> Block 13 -> Dropped Messi
R3 -> Block 1 -> Nobody else has picked Messi & he is in the pool, can I pick him again ?
Thanks. I'll expand that to all finals. i.e. all matches post qualification.
Would that help?
I'll permit that.Pretty sure that it'll be enough
Well, you could do a bit better than that, in fairness. There are a couple of decent players in that (very limited, granted) pool. In addition to the one world beater you'd - obviously - go for if you opted for that route.
Yeah, I know - the Arsenal pairing in particular, it was an exaggerated point. Blanchflower just misses out too
Nelson isn't a bad player though, couple of hundred appearances for Arsenal and a fifty caps
Yes, the gap ain't large. Between Blanchflower's last match and Best's debut, I mean.
Having a look through that list there are definitely enough players in there to make a decent side.
For a team?
If you meant, co modding the draft, always welcome. Just get your super villain suit on.
Thanks. I'll amend the guidance note.
Edit: Amended. Includes all Group and Knockout matches now.
completely missed the point there. I thought whoever someone chose affected anyone falling there next.R4 -> Tuppet has gone missing as he is off to some Caribbean island with his Euromillions
That would be hilarious but would mean everyone would be stuck in one place. Sort of a link to club mates would be a fun square though.
1st person to land on it gets an open pick. 2no person has to pick someone to have played with him at club level.
3rd has to pick a player to have played with number 2.
Tactics would really come into play then
@Edgar Allan Pillow
Did you find a team McFly? If not you can pair with tiger and me.
No call up yet!......I feel a bit like Steve Bruce just sat there by the phone waiting for the FA to call...
Happy to join you boys
I feel this needs a bit of steering to avoid popular players being repeated. So am making some changes to the criteria:
Box 4:
Dutch Flair "Currently plays in Dutch League"
is being replaced with
Divided Kingdom "Player from UK excepting England"
Guidance: Player must have been born in and played for Scotland, Wales, N.Ireland NT. Player must NOT have played for England NT
Box 11:
EFFICIENT "Currently plays in Bundesliga"
is being replaced with
Hey BABE! "Managed by Sir Matt Busby (exclusions apply. see guidance)"
Guidance: Should have played (have game time) in at least a single game under Sir Matt Busby for Man Utd. The trinity (Law, Charlton, Best) and Duncan Edwards cannot be picked.
..............
Will think of some more. Opinions welcome.
Box 4:
Dutch Flair "Currently plays in Dutch League"
is being replaced with
Divided Kingdom "Player from UK excepting England"
Guidance: Player must have been born in and played for Scotland, Wales, N.Ireland NT. Player must NOT have played for England NT
Box 11:
EFFICIENT "Currently plays in Bundesliga"
is being replaced with
Hey BABE! "Managed by Sir Matt Busby (exclusions apply. see guidance)"
Guidance: Should have played (have game time) in at least a single game under Sir Matt Busby for Man Utd. The trinity (Law, Charlton, Best) and Duncan Edwards cannot be picked.
..............
Will think of some more. Opinions welcome.