Convert to Moggism to try and reverse the trend?
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If there was a person that had to get stuffed and put in the natural history museum, nobody would look as at home as JRM would.
Truss vs Meloni (our own far-right dumwit going to win our 25/9 general election and become the next Italian PM) is going to be a classic, the well-disguised sisterhood for a common, minionic, nuklear Dystopianistan against Mad Vlad’s baddies.
I read a comment on twitter that described Truss as looking like someone who has accidently eaten an edible before an important work meeting and desperately trying to get through it.
I think it's a perfect description of her.
I think it's a perfect description of her.
I was quite open to the idea of Truss PM, cos it'll be a hilarious year or so... But Mogg will be Chancellor won't he... Oh lordi.
This isn't the traditional Tory party though, most of those with competence were purged when Boris took power, this is the Brexit party.
Go on Stoke, make the most of your brexit freedomsIf had to choose a leader between Boris, Lizzie, Rishi, and Keir I'd reluctantly with a heavy heart choose Boris. I am positive this forum has better candidates than those three being imposed on us.
You’d choose Johnson over someone whose party has never even had the chance to be in power?
Labour without Keir would be an ideal scenario. He's ideally suited for Madame Tussauds (characterless) and also too right-wing for my liking.
Compared to Johnson?!Labour without Keir would be an ideal scenario. He's ideally suited for Madame Tussauds (characterless) and also too right-wing for my liking.
Is that even a question?
But you said you'd pick Johnson over Starmer? I'm very confused.
The Tory members don't trust Sunak. They're not sure why. Can't quite put their old,male,white fingers on the exact reason...
That's surprising!
Although I expect Keir would be the most authoritarian of those choices, domestically. Which is sad to say.
Exactly, what he said!
Boris is literally a criminal, why would ANYONE wish to have a criminal in power??
Reading back to the post that came out wrong.
With a choice purely between Truss, Sunak, and BoJo in the Conservative party. I would take the best of the worst. If Startmer remains the leader I will not vote for Labour for only the 3rd occasion in my life.
But.. But... He got the big calls right.... He nearly died from Covid.... He was a laugh on Have I Got News For You 20 years ago.... He says it how it is.... It was only a slice of birthday cake...
Etc
Would you vote Tory? Or does that mean you'd vote Lib Dem?
I've never understood this "Labour would be worse" angle. They've not been in power for 12 years. It's like sitting in a house that's on fire and there's a house across the street. It's not visibly on fire, and you don't know what it's like inside, but you'd rather choose to sit and burn than find out what the other one is like.
It is this kind of attitude that will give Tories a win at the next election. Remember you are not voting for Starmer, you are voting for Labour and their approach to supporting and governing the country.
Never voted Conservatives. I never will.
Although my life has changed 360 degrees I will never forget my roots. The only time I have not voted for Labour was when Blair turned rogue.
Leaders have a massive sway on the policies of their party. I still feel guilty when I voted for Blair during his first election. The only regret I will have is not voting for a fantastic Labour MP we have in our local constituency.
Yeah, about the only reason I’m likely to still vote Labour in spite of the policies Keir puts forward is that I have full faith in my local MP.
360 degrees means you are right where you started. Perhaps you mean 180.
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We can look forward to more of this if she becomes PM....joys....
I'm not voting or never have voted for the Conservatives.
But by not voting Labour because of who heads the party, I don’t quite understand what you’re trying to achieve. You’ve still, indirectly, made the conclusion that supporting labour is worse than the increased risk of a conservative government, ergo effectively supporting conservatives even if you don’t vote for them.
That question should be directed at the Labour party for making him the leader. I would be disappointed if we get another term of Conservatives but that's the unfortunate part.
Not really, it’s rightly directed to you. You might not like Kier, but you’re effectively saying you prefer a conservative government rather than a Kier led Labour government. It makes no sense at all, if your underlying beliefs are left Labour, because even a Kier led Labour Party aligns more to that than a Conservative one. So I still don’t know what you’re achieving.
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I have reasons for not agreeing with Keir and its to do with our MP who I know personally and how some on the left of the party were treated. I would rather not go into details.
It is also up to a political party to come up with policies and ideas to make people vote for them, rather than criticising voters for choosing an alternative or not going to the polls. Labour has historically been far too keen to do the latter and not the former.
Absolutely.
I do understand that. And I agree. But there is a bigger picture here. Not voting will lead to a government which is even further away than what you’re looking for. That’s not to say you should flat out vote them no matter what, but it’s also not the right approach to think of it in isolation.
I won't be voting Labour at the next election because I think Starmer is shit. If the Tories win the next election, which they probably will, then thats on the Labour leadership.
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