Someone has put Josh Jacobs on the trading block. Should I go for him? Gurley is my 2nd choice RB. Murray on bench picked up good points.
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Good thread on the (lack of) value of RBs.
Meanwhile, Zeke got 54 on 12 and has 273 on 70 after four games but does a fantastic Mickey Mouse pose.
He has a point but I'm not sure why you'd begin making that point with the Browns when the next guy up is Hunt and they're sharing the role anyway.
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Better late than never!
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Amazed it took this long.
His decision to trade Hopkins is even worse now he lasted only 4 games this year. Ownership fecked up giving him so much power.
GET THE FECK INNNNNNNNNN 
No Nuk and short on picks, but he won’t damage us any further now.
No Nuk and short on picks, but he won’t damage us any further now.
I’m trying to work a fake punt joke but I can’t find it...
Too late to salvage the next couple years of Deshaun, but at least they did it. Eric the Enemy will have his pick of several teams with the way this season is going.
Crennel will be interim HC for the remainder of the season, hmm.
Might be better to go 0-16 and trade the Lawrence pick to a team for multiple first rounders or something like that
Might be better to go 0-16 and trade the Lawrence pick to a team for multiple first rounders or something like that
Isn’t that Miami’s pick from the Tunsil trade? You don’t need a QB or that great OT from Oregon after extending Tunsil if that’s any consolation...Crennel will be interim HC for the remainder of the season, hmm.
Might be better to go 0-16 and trade the Lawrence pick to a team for multiple first rounders or something like that
Dolphins own Texans' 1st and 2nd round pick in the next draft. That could be a top 10 pick at least. That Tunsil trade could become even more of a catastrophe.
What the hell just happened? I’m all for calls going against the Pats, but that looked like a clear turnover by Mahomes.
Maybe they called him down in the grasp and the whistle was late.
Maybe they called him down in the grasp and the whistle was late.
Imagine if the Packers actually drafted a WR in the 1st round. So many good receivers in this past draft class too. Rodgers playing against a banged-up Falcons secondary, but still. His best receivers are Marques Valdes-Scantling and fecking Robert Tonyan.
Dunno how but I've managed to claw back into my draft match. I need 12 points to win. I have Todd gurley and Aaron Rodgers (what a guy)
Robert fecking Tonyan has 3 TDs. Let that sink in.
Huh? Hunt is an amazing backup RB. Actually shows the value of RBs.
No it doesn't. This is not on Hunt, Cleveland set a rushing total best without Chubb and Hunt just kept his regular role with only 11 carries. Johnson had 13 and Hilliard had 5, so Johnson (yeah, who?) out-carried and out-rushed Hunt after Chubb went down.
The best example is the Panthers winning 2 games without CMC after paying him, while Mike Davis (not exactly an RB1 guy ever in his career) has taken over his role without breaking too much of a sweat.
Love seeing the offensive line getting recognized for doing well 
There's very little value to RB's, they are 10 a penny. A great running scheme is far more important. RB's can be picked up off the street.
Brian Hoyer , he had an absolute nightmare.
, he had an absolute nightmare.Cam showing Patriots how much they need him. He'll surely get a big contract.
Bit of a let down these two games, thought the Atlanta offense would keep up for a bit longer against Packers. And these QB's for the Patriots just never looked like making this exciting in the long run.
This ESPN Monday night crew is brutal. Can't pronounce some names and got Ryan and Rodgers repeatedly mixed up. Too many plays where they just get the call wrong. And being three instead of two the chemistry is a bit off and forced.
Bit of a let down these two games, thought the Atlanta offense would keep up for a bit longer against Packers. And these QB's for the Patriots just never looked like making this exciting in the long run.
This ESPN Monday night crew is brutal. Can't pronounce some names and got Ryan and Rodgers repeatedly mixed up. Too many plays where they just get the call wrong. And being three instead of two the chemistry is a bit off and forced.
Probably still be 4-0, tbh.
True, but at least they'd have 1st and 2nd round talent surrounding him for the playoff run-in and the next few years. Now they drafted his back-up (who's been a healthy scratch the first few weeks) and a fecking RB they don't even use and/or need since they have one of the best dual-threat and Redzone backs in the league and a capable back-up for said player.
Their draft was mind-boggling on the moment itself and it's still the same right now.
Are more people beginning to accept that individual RBs really don’t have an awful lot of value?
It's flaming obvious. No franchise should EVER draft a RB in the top 10 pick range, I don't care how good that player is. There are far more valuable slots to fill.
Yep
A real head scratcher wasn't it. They have a very small window with Rodgers, they should have traded up for one of the stacked class 1st round receivers. When they did finally trade up I thought it had to be receiver and then the Love pick came in.... Wow.
In all honesty, LaFleur seems a good hire and this is a talented Packers team, I'm just going to try to enjoy one of my sports teams doing well for now
Also, a friend's a Texans fan and is equally delighted that BOB has gone. Hopefully the batshit decisions stop now and Watson gets the team he deserves.
Even if they hadn't traded up - Higgins, Shenault, Pittman Jr., Mims, Jefferson, Edwards were all available and would've been decent picks too.
Some good points made, but you would have to wonder whether the specific teams/situations he cites are simply down to the teams having well executing offenses with productive offensive lines. He also doesn't mention a decent counterpoint to the running back argument, which is that most successful QBs aren't drafted top 10 either.
No but once you get "your guy", the value over replacement is way higher than with RBs and that's the most important thing to take away from the discussion imo.
I was surprised how gritty the Patriots were.
They might have had a chance with a proper QB.
They might have had a chance with a proper QB.
If true, it would be because quarterback is a more highly sought after skill position that affects every part of a teams offense, whereas RBs and WRs are more episodical and ancillary in their participation. Some plays they are involved, many others they aren't. QBs are always involved and there is only one of them, which makes finding a very good one much harder.
Yeah I left last night thinking they would've had a solid chance to win if Cam was playing.
Fitzpatrick still starting next Sunday. I wonder how many Ls it will take before Tua gets his chance.
Very soon I would think. Fitzpatrick isn't getting any younger, and even though he's an oddly good runner, its still no match for Tua's speed and mobility. Plus he can throw as well.
Worried that will cost Rodgers... again. But so far, so good. Weve had some great weekly performances, and a nice game to go into the bye week.
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