Haven't felt this connected to a player in a while. Over the moon that he got his much deserved goal, great way to roll into a weekend!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Well mate sorry for just watching the game and seeing what’s in my view an athletic and hard working striker but with technical abilities not being among his best qualities.
Several posters on the match thread also said that Jackson wasn’t good during first half.
He left the ball behind him while trying to run at least a couple of times for instance.
Look I don’t know why you’re overreacting, I’m just saying let’s wait a little bit before calling him a great striker or a shit striker.
He showed some good things against a team that doesn’t even have a home stadium fit for PL games but he also showed some not so good things
He's looked good so far but Broja will be better.
No offense but this is perhaps the saddest / most pathetic appeal to authority I've ever seen in my life?
You're obviously entitled to your opinion - but you also were the one who responded to me initially and now you're accusing me of overreacting when I ask for actual evidence backing up your claims that go beyond the collective knee-jerk reactions of an opposition forum and instead have some basis in reality?
Again I don't give a solitary feck if he's overrunning the ball on occasion if he's also producing extremely high-level touches that lead directly to 1v1 opportunities. Also again, it was a total of two dispossessions for the match, so calling it "objectively bad" remains hilariously misguided.
Seems the scattergun approach has unearthed at least one gem.
There's many things he's good at but this is an insane take. We must have very different criteria for what we consider to be "tremendous dribblers"
You’re the one proclaiming your love for Nicolas Jackson so you’re the one with the more bias here. I literally said I was happy for the kid getting his first goal so I fail to see where I’ve been knee jerk.
I watched the game and saw a player with average dribbling technique and okay first touch, being able to compensate through his athleticism and workrate. Referring to the match thread is not a cry for authority but it’s simply a way to show that I was not the only one seeing it.
I still think he had a bad first half and that his technical attributes aren’t his strongest abilities. He got better in the second half, created 2 chances and scored a goal. That’s it, all I’m saying
We have a different assessment of his game, so just enjoy what you saw of him and enjoy your team’s victory
My point is. Drogba had half's and even games where he couldn't control a football. Did it also not take Drogba time to adapt..
He's really good, works his socks off, good link up play, strong, quick, makes good runs. I don't think he'll be a world beater but will be the necessary glue for the other stars to shine.
Stats against all strikers for the last 365 days. You were saying?
I never claimed to be unbiased!
We can agree to disagree. I don't mean to be antagonistic or a dickhead or anything; just feel generally like the burden of proof is on the person responding generally.
Hope you have a great weekend mate
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I fecking love this guy. He's a bit raw at the moment but I'm convinced he's going to be fecking special for us in the years to come..... Unless he gets injured, he did fail his medical at Bournemouth after all.
He’s very good. Strong, constant running, good ideas in the link up and actually quite gifted when running with the ball as opposed to be a strictly give and go type striker.
Quite annoying it only cost 30m for him.
Quite annoying it only cost 30m for him.
His goal was the cherry on the cake. The two main things I really wanted tonight was 3 points and a Jackson goal. Hopefully he goes on a little run.
My point is. Drogba had half's and even games where he couldn't control a football. Did it also not take Drogba time to adapt..
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1.4 successful take-ons per 90 is a tremendous dribbler now? Christ.
I remember when the likes of Neymar, Hazard, and Messi were averaging around 5 or 6 successful take-ons per match. Times must be tough at Stamford Bridge these days
He's shite
While you are at it, why not compare his tackling number's to Kante's? You are comparing his dribbling numbers to the world's greatest playmakers. Those dribbling numbers are great for a center forward. Compare his stat to Haaland, lewandowski, Kane.
Btw, he is in only his 2nd full senior season. This is a 22 year old player that is still improving and already has elite qualities that are valuable in a striker.
Not sure he’s going to be their main number 9 for the coming years as he lots to prove as a striker but he’s a good player to have in any squad - quick, strong, good touch and seems to very intelligent when linking up.
He played mostly as second striker or wide forward for villareal. But he looks good as a striker for us. If we add new striker or broja come back strong he is very well capable of playing in no. 10 or second striker or wide forward role. That's his advantage.
Very pleased with him so far.
To be fair to the poster, he was responding to someone who called him a ”tremendous dribbler”, not a good dribbler or a decent dribbler for a centre forward.
If someone calls Mount a tremendous tackler, I’d absolutely expect someone to compare him to Kante.
You can't say that. You're supposed to proclaim how great he is after 3 games and compare him to Drogba, especially after the one where they played what could be one of the shittest team to ever grace the PL.
It's been years so I could be off but didn't Drogba score on his debut against us?
Nope. He set up Gudjohnsen.
Sadly not.
Ah! I think that's the game I started hating Chelsea after seeing that rat faced manager from Porto beating us comfortably. Really liked Chelsea up until that point.
Been very impressed by him. His touches to teammates are excellent when it's first time and little lay offs but when there's no-one close to him, he can struggle to lock it in and often gives it away. But to be fair, that's one of the hardest traits in football and he's still very young and developing.
Totally understandable. We were suddenly a huge threat to United. We were just a decent team that played nice football before that.
He wears his shorts in weird way.
Watching Jackson actually makes me realise how little we were getting from Havertz up front.Yeah he looks very promising. It must be an absolute breath of fresh air to go from the worst forward ever in Havertz to an all action Jackson. What a contrast!
You raise some interesting points here
A lot of Arsenal fans seem to be going through a similar journey with him. Despite being trash they are refusing or unwilling to see it.
The first match I saw him play for Chelsea, I thought Drogba straight away. A physical handful with raw finishing but you know he’s going to cause opponents havoc.
I was drunk and it was all I had in me.You raise some interesting points here
Would generally think it's more or less implied that he should be compared to other players in the same position? Obviously dribble volume is going to be lower for CFs given how rarely they are isolated 1v1.
See above - perhaps it's my fault if I was unclear. That said, don't necessarily agree with your analogy since Mount and Kante are/were both ideally used as 8s anyhow.
So much for his Drogba comparisons. Misses from 4 yards out.
Bahahaha
Billion quid and this is the best striker they could find?
Bad miss but still think he will be class.