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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Hopefully LvG cockslaps some sense into him.
Not match fit enough.
Not looking good for him. There's talent in there somewhere though.
Would love to see him on the bench vs Yeovil but very unlikely as he is yet to learn the 'philosophy' of LvG!
No philosophy, No play.
Recalled by United, not sent back by Leicester. Quite a difference between the two.
you think Leicester were desperate to hold on to him? Seems quite unlikely given how things have gone for him there.
i would like to see him get a chance rather than Wilson if he's fit but not as a midfielder
Why's that Geebs?
He doesn't have the mentality to be a top player. Talented but for me sums up the modern day teenager, Wants the glory for minimal effort.
as a youngster he had that skill come very easily to him, almost LeTissier like, but because of his build Fergie was touting him as a midfielder. Could never see that myself. He's got all the skills, good with either foot, good in the air, good passer, makes it look easy at times. Only thing is hes not blinding quick.
He's at the stage now though where he needs to impress, thats why id chuck him in against Yeovil, sink or swim. Prove yourself or get shifted out in the summer. he needs to knuckle down now and show what he can do.
sorry but how do any of us judge mentality?
Ah I see, I agree with that, just thought you were saying you'd rather pick him than Wilson in general...which I wouldn't agree with
It's not a secret that he is too laid back and that has \ is preventing his progress. Every coach he has worked with has said that he is.
And let's be honest, There is a reason he has barely made an appearance for Leicester City
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This.
Do you have any coach's quotes pertaining to his attitude?
SAF in his bio said that "he is quite a detached figure - good at switching off". I don't see how you can relate this to your statement on "glory for minimal efforts".
Knew i'd be asked for direct quotes
, I'm at work so can't really go rooting but to scratch the surface a quick search of Google state something along the lines right away:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ell-loan-deal-after-exasperating-coaches.html
And there is a quote from Fergie's book:
''[Manchester United chief scout] Jim Lawlor went to look at [Powell] and said he was interesting, though he was not sure what his best position would be and thought he might be a wee bit laid-back.''
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how does a wee bit laid back equate to having a bad attitude?Knew i'd be asked for direct quotes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ell-loan-deal-after-exasperating-coaches.html
And there is a quote from Fergie's book:
''[Manchester United chief scout] Jim Lawlor went to look at [Powell] and said he was interesting, though he was not sure what his best position would be and thought he might be a wee bit laid-back.''
The article does not provide direct quotes from coachs, only what the Telegraph "understands". And Jim Lawlor never coached him although you could certainly interpret Feguson's quotes that way. Yet, I don't see anything wrong with the quotes. Next to this, you've got Owen Coyle and Uwe Rosler, people who actually coached him, saying that he is a fantastic talent. There could be many reasons why his Leicester loan has failed. All I am saying really is let's not rush to conclusions.Knew i'd be asked for direct quotes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ell-loan-deal-after-exasperating-coaches.html
And there is a quote from Fergie's book:
''[Manchester United chief scout] Jim Lawlor went to look at [Powell] and said he was interesting, though he was not sure what his best position would be and thought he might be a wee bit laid-back.''
Neither has Tom Lawrence who they bought, nor Jack Barmby who impressed against our U21s this season; looks to me as though Pearson simply doesn't want to throw kids in, despite the relative lack of success so far. Worth noting that Michael Keane was on the bench for Burnley until injuries forced a change.
If only we had done a bit more research than watching him play once before signing him. I thought mentality was an essential part of the talent evaluation process.
I'd be amazed if no research was done into that before forking out £5m or whatever it was.
Not sure if serious? Of course we'd have done our homework & for SAF, mentality and family life/values, iirc, were always important aspects.
But yeah agreed. If he was known to be a poor trainer, then it is a bit surprising that we still proceeded with the deal. But yeah, there's probably way too many variables to consider in ANY transfer, which gives it that bit of a gambling element.
Edit: off point, but was it Bebe who SAF once admitted to never having seen him play but we still signed him?
Yes, I believe Carlos Queiroz alerted SAF to Bebe saying that he was the next big thing. There was a lot of interest from other European Clubs (e.g. Real Madrid) iirc. This resulted in us signing him without SAF having seen him play.
Good performance - thought he bossed that second half. That performance certainly would have done him favours. Reminds me such much of Lampard.
Hope he builds on this and gets another crack from the bench for the first team. Ambitious, but I have faith in his ability.
Where is he now? I know he's been out injured but is he even going on tour with us?
Why isn't he the new Paul Scholes yet??
Why isn't he the new Paul Scholes yet??
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Feck me...completely forgot about him.
He always seems injured as well whenever he is with us for some reason.
Probably needs a move to get regular football and stay away from injuries.
Probably needs a move to get regular football and stay away from injuries.
I hadn't. I still dream of him have a momentous pre season, resulting in the sale of Fellaini - then I wake up, unlike young Nick who is sleeping his talent away.
Who?
Good goal. Maybe we should sign him.
That video sums Welbeck up perfectly really...
I think it's more of an example of how he used to be, than how he is.
I must have missed something, does he actually finish his chances off now ? ....
Completely forgot about this guy, shame when he signed he came with a lot of potential it just hasn't worked out and he needs a move.
Same!
I remember when he signed they made him out to be Rooney mk2!
Been huge disappointment really, he should be stepping up into the main team at 21 now but instead it looks like he could be sold.