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Ole Sack Watch
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Koeman sacked.
He can't turn it around. The team he assembled is unbalanced. To balance that out he'll need to bench top players who will end up turning against him. Even the thought of such threat is hurting him big time. For example there are persistent rumors of Greenwood falling out with Ronaldo (or viceversa). Its dog vs dog here and no one wants to be pushed out of the spotlight.
The next manager will have to act quickly and decisively to get rid of some top players else he'll be trapped in the same mess.
we don't sack managers because Sir Alex ended up 11th place with a bunch of drunkards back in 1986
Thanks I will try to find it.
Edit: a nothing of real substance article. Players calling out Ole and his staff in the dressing room after Leicester and liverpool defeats. He's lost the dressing room well part of it and it's over for any manager once players start calling you out in front of the entire squad. Dead man walking.
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I’d say barely. Been crystal clear since he joined that he was here for one reason, to chat about his countryman and back him to the hilt in every thread. Very similar to how daydreamer joined for no other reason than to chat ”Messi” all day long and slag off Ronaldo at every opportunity.
The posters who join with one “goal” in mind often add the least to good debate.
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Believe me, it’s not that difficult wanting Ole to get the sack.
That being said, I’m also part of some norwegian United-groups, and while I haven’t seen any polls there, I would reckon it would be around 50/50 if Ole should be sacked or not. Crazy!
If we play PSG then I won't be surprised if we drill our players on the use of longbows. That's because it played beautifully at the Battle of AgincourtSo true
Come on, we all know things have changed since then.Good job you weren’t around in Sir Matt’s day
This whole thing has been very revealing about the fanbase for me. Call me naive, I had no idea it was this bad.
I've seen stuff like:
"Ronaldo should've gone to city he deserves more"
"I hope we lose, so Ole is gone"
"What does Sir Alex know? He should shut up"
"Why do we support teams? Because they win trophies!"
Not to mention the insults about Ole, I'm forgetting more than I've seen, what I learned is that they have very thin skin and for them rival banter detetmins their support. Whatever happens to Ole I don't think I will be ever Unified with fans like that, they will always be plastic glory hunters forever. Theres a difference between supporters and fans for me now. I remember years ago arguing against folks that most United fans are glory hunters. I had no idea how right they was.
I've seen a post about Fergie who should be kept in a box in a stadium with privacy glass so they cant film his reactions to our defeats.
Cause he's mostly responsible for the current state of the club.
Two days left until our next match. We really are going into the next match with Ole as manager.
So true.
someone mentioned the fans no be able to take Ole much longer, I'd say the same fans crying at moment writing some of the above comments been having a torrid time the last couple years anyway all they've done is moan like f##k, and now think they deserve the world and happiness for being top top fans. Even the paying match day fans getting it stacks too, for not pelting cars etc
Felt like even after we smashed teams, they were in after the matches still crying.......didn't understand it at all. Now after Liverpool hammering t's a total free for all with the media getting their pound of flesh, and everything has moved into feverish rabid territory.
Dont worry, he will sooth it with the 15m he will get. I would take more bashing for much less.
Ah the good old if he has money he wont care about the insults argument.
Is singing Ole's at the wheel really an insult
Well I can’t imagine he needs the money and I’d say his legacy with Manchester United means more to him than that.
Yes I think so. Driving us to mid table currently
I know, it's unbelievable how callous some people are. Ole has no doubt come up short as a manager but I can't believe people can be so uncaring about him as a human being, he's clearly a nice chap (probably half his problem really) who loves the club. Like if you're rich, you're not worthy of empathy.
Wow. So some of you do care more about him than the club itself.
So it's the song that is making us lose.
Still a-few Ole fanatics remain. Ffs, admit you were wrong, it's over and move on.
I don't think you understood what I wrote. I assume you're reacting to my last sentence. It doesnt say what you think it says.
Since 1989.
I think he is too busy smacking chicks around.
I'm sorry that you didn't get an obvious joke. I'd thought the comment was outlandish enough to be understood as such.This confirms it for me, just spotted it in another thread. This is the same poster who has been defending Ole to the hilt and he has the backbone to step in to the thread about our next manager and suggest replacing him with a manager from the Norwegian league or their national team coach
What an absolute WUM.
My bad, carry on.
At least you understood the sentence unlike quite a few others who took it personally.
There is one similarity, our players play like they're drunk or badly hungover.
The word 'troll' originated from Old Norse.
Just saying.
Just saying.
Anyone take Koeman?
Yeah if that was the case he'd already have resigned a la Gattuso...
No thanks.
Yeah I've been there before, tirelessly arguing with that MadWinger over Kagawa, then the Dutch guy who defended Blind, Depay & LVG to the absolute hilt. The problem is they do support United, but I think they let their nationality/patriotism overcloud what is actually best for the club. Their opinion can't be taken seriously.
You know whats funny to me, how fans can't tell that the media is intentionally trying to keep the fanbase insecure.
Hate to be the good old days guy, but somethings are constant regardless of the era.
I remember when the threat of City was finally materialising, the papers were questioning our players and our manager. Chelsea had won it the year before if I remember correctly and Arsenal were pushing us.
Every paper was hinting at the end of an era, us fans was NOT having it, I go to Upton Park we are down 2-0 to two dubious penalties. Rooney comes back scores a hatrick Chicharito bangs one more. After the game learn about Rooney swearing at the camera, papers criticising SAF saying he creates an Us vs Them mentality which causes his players to respond negatively. We didn't give a care in the world.
As a club (Supporters, Players, Manager) we were impenetrable. The media could never shake us, we wasn't so insecure. Shakey moments in a season, no longer champions, the threats of other teams we still had fortitude - which transmitted to the team imo,I recognise now this is well and truly dead.
Kills me to say it before Klopp won anything for Liverpool and kept failing in europa etc. I remember the same fortitude in Liverpool fans. I remember trying to rattle them saying "you can't press for 90ms you'll get injuries and lose finals etc", trying to wind em up. They refused to be rattled and just stuck with the course. They would get smacked up 4-0 in europe by sweedish nobodies and they wouldn't shake.
The media always had a soft spot for Liverpool, and it seems that because they used to never be able to penetrate us as a club. Now they've sunk their teeth into our fanbase they are never letting go. I see the insecurity in certain "fans" and what they don't understand is the fear defeats you before the result does.
These players/coaching staff/journos etc spend more time online with us than in stadiums nowadays, if every "fan" was a little more cautious with what they wrote it would go a long way.
It's funny I could argue that when United had a frosty relationship with press (SAF refusing to do interviews ETC) I can make an argument that was when we was most succesful.
Now I see United so called Fan channels guest appear on SkySports selling a reactionary fanbase to advertisers its all patethic.
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The worry for me is our board being the absolute clowns that they are if we do somehow manage to win the next 3 games they’ll probably reward Ole with another few years on his contract.
Is even Fjørtoft making fun of us now?Tweet
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“Ole at the wheel” should have been binned as soon it became apparent he was a worse driver than Teddy Kennedy
Haha. You can if you have ambitions.
Aye, wee are a free one now to them, the constant nonsense they write about us whether true or not, it's a free for all and our own fans be lapping it right up. Feeds into the everything is total shit narrative.
Heard folk even say Ole been getting a free ride from the media,
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