Hopefully only for one year. Win a trophy or get the sack
Ole signs new contract
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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The moaning here tastes DELICIOUS!
That’s pretty much it , if he had a contract till 2023 then he wouldn’t have got an extension
His previous managerial roles meant at least I had no expectations of him when he came in. After all, he was initially appointed as caretaker. But his performances and progress with the team rightfully earned him the position of manager and now a contract extension.
I just don't see what this "no elite club wants him" has anything to do with it. He has made fantastic progress from where we were to where we are now, hence he has deserved this extension.
You always need to build a solid foundation for success. We had very little to work on when Ole arrived. The club was in complete disarray. The scouting department was a complete mess.
By all accounts there was supposed in-fighting and personality clashes during the Jose period. Team harmony was totally shot. And this at a time when we were producing some utterly atrocious football on the field. Ole has fixed so much at the club in his 2 and a half seasons. The fact we can sign players like Sancho and possibly Varane without begging or purely enticing them with big wads of cash is a testament to the positive environment Ole has created.
People talk about the recent success of Tuchel, and he had a great finish to the campaign, but Chelsea had the foundation already in place. We didn't have that.
I reiterate we were a mess.
If Ole and the team get a trophy it would be fully deserved.
By all accounts there was supposed in-fighting and personality clashes during the Jose period. Team harmony was totally shot. And this at a time when we were producing some utterly atrocious football on the field. Ole has fixed so much at the club in his 2 and a half seasons. The fact we can sign players like Sancho and possibly Varane without begging or purely enticing them with big wads of cash is a testament to the positive environment Ole has created.
People talk about the recent success of Tuchel, and he had a great finish to the campaign, but Chelsea had the foundation already in place. We didn't have that.
I reiterate we were a mess.
If Ole and the team get a trophy it would be fully deserved.
I hope he brings success.
Happy with this.. we have improved last season and I’m sure we will improve this coming season hopefully ole will finally get us some silverware this season.
Strange decision
Bit premature. That's exactly what we thought with Jose as well. He got us trophies, then a second position , a new contract only to be sacked 6 months later.
While I agree Ole has been fine, we should have waited until atleast Christmas to see how things go in this season. If we are far behind, he is getting the sack anyway. So I really don't understand the timing. What difference would it have made be it July or December ?
Baffling !
While I agree Ole has been fine, we should have waited until atleast Christmas to see how things go in this season. If we are far behind, he is getting the sack anyway. So I really don't understand the timing. What difference would it have made be it July or December ?
Baffling !
Came to write the same.Rewarding mediocrity is in the club's DNA.
Maybe Varane really wants to play for him & won’t sign without the guarantee. . . Then again pigs may someday fly.
This is all good but then means nothing if we don't follow through and add a DM and a CB ( Varane) to this window
Season starts in three weeks and let's be honest, as things stand now who actually thinks we can win the title? Right now we look a top 4 club and I guess for the owners that's more than enough
For the fans we want to challenge for the major trophies and hopefully win one
But hopefully fans are realistic too
Season starts in three weeks and let's be honest, as things stand now who actually thinks we can win the title? Right now we look a top 4 club and I guess for the owners that's more than enough
For the fans we want to challenge for the major trophies and hopefully win one
But hopefully fans are realistic too
You can’t judge Ole on the job he’s doing. It’s what he did at Cardiff that’s important.
Fair enough then you make a valid point. I think ole is our best option at this moment in time because I think he has momentum, he knows the club, is good at managing the media etc.
Out of interest who would you appoint instead? I'm not trying to be argumentative here, I'm asking sincerely.
I cant think of anyone out there available that I would choose to replace ole who has 3 years under his belt at the club he spent around a decade at as a player and has brought a bit of enthusiasm back, imo.
After winning so much its well deserved
We finished above 2 of those last year, so they can be as happy as they like.
Happy with this, the squads going in the right direction. He's did far better than Jose, Louie and Moyes in that respect and he's got the team pretty consistent in the league. We have to kick on this season but even if we don't and he leaves, he'll leave the club in far better condition than he found it which is certainly something his 3 predecessors can't claim.
They of course won't openly admit it but most rival fans will begrudgingly admit United are a force to be reckoned with. They certainly wouldn't be seeing us as a walkover, that's for sure.
I'd rather be in our position than the likes of Arsenal, Spurs, Juventus, Barcelona, Real Madrid. The only team I'm genuinely worried about this season is Chelsea.
It doesn't hurt to show him some confidence I guess. It's not like we lack the resources to replace him regardless of a new contract.
By some distance the best manager we have had since SAF. Question is whether that is enough.
By some distance the best manager we have had since SAF. Question is whether that is enough.
Nah that's the problem I think our owners are content with champions league qualification, hence the extension
Should have been sacked he’s done a good job. Would have done an exceptional job had he won a trophy or two but he’s exceeded every level headed fans ambitions. This season will rightly be a big one and it’s one in which he should be judged more harshly if we fall short as we now have the squad to really compete.Funny enough, yes, too shit for other positions that require more technical qualities.
Given two people watch/follow the progress and facts equally, having played a fecking pub game can't possibly make one of them more qualified. It's just a "I am very badass" attitude.
Thats got nothing to do with Liverpool playing with no defenders for a whole season and Chelsea sacking their manager. No. Watch Ole have us finish below them this season and give your head a wobble.We literally finished above Chelsea for two seasons in a row and Liverpool last season. Give your head a wobble. Call yourself a fan
Which manager should we hire to win the league with this squad then? What manager finishes above second last year? Or 3rd the year before?
That’s what oppo fans do most when they think we’re on the rise again. Watch their reaction to Sancho signing, Varane if he signs, they will play it down and try to laugh it off. It’s a narrative that bedded in under previous managers not Ole.
You must be mad if you think we are not at least progressing as a squad. We all like winning trophies the most important thing was getting this squad in order after 6 years of mismanagement, we should have won a couple of cups along the way but that’s not a reason to totally ignore the positives.
We are attracting top players, have a transformed squad under Ole that are all young and talented, improved so much behind the scenes in multiple areas.
We all agree we need silverware next, it will come as a result of these positives and it most importantly it will be sustainable
You make it sound like he took over Everton. But you are right, most of fans had 0 ambitions when Ole was appointed full time. We all knew that trophies is way beyond his reach and it's not gonna change this year, or the next year.
I'm ok with it tbh. We've come a long way with Ole, he continually makes good decisions with squad building, individual performances have improved massively, team performances have improved and last season he was implementing a more front footed and higher press approach in big games too. For this one, he's shown enough constant progression to trust the process. No he's not Pep or Klopp, Nagelsmann went to Bayern, so why not? I can't really say there's any other manager I'd prefer to be in charge outside of those 3, certainly not Poch or someone like that either.
Cant stand some of our supporters. Utterly embarrassing comments in here.
Good stuff. He was one penalty save away from silverware. Let's hope we kick on this season.
He already has a full season under his belt. He's being backed and all his prime targets are being bought. There's literally no interest in his services from any decent club, so why the hurry? Why can't we wait like, for October or Christmas to see if he deserves an extension? Why are we renewing him after he fumbled a chance at winning a European trophy versus a much much worse Villareal squad?
That's the problem. His renewal was agreed back in April itself, and they were waiting for right time to announce it. Obviously, couldn't do it after losing a final. So, they chose to sneak this in after Sancho signing. We are continuously rewarding mediocrity (see Jones, Bailly, Mata) Ole is latest in a very long line so forgive me if I am not optimistic about how things are run here.
Thank you for proving my point. This is new Utd under Ole, content with making CL places every year while being near men when it comes to silverware.
That's very definition of mediocrity which so many Utd fans are happy with, I am not. Our squad has serious potential and needs a better a manager to help them take the next step. Ole won't suddenly develop tactical nous to win big boy trophies, just like Fred won't suddenly turn into a world beater no matter how much time he is given. There's levels to this stuff.
Fecking great news. Clear progression, great team building and constant development. Get behind the project you miserable bastards.
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Compared to what Klopp and Pep have spent it's pretty modest.
Ole has spent 350mil.
Compared to what Klopp and Pep have spent it's pretty modest.
We’ll time will tell, if we finish 3rd or 4th with no trophies serious questions will be asked.
How long is the extension?
Not sure why people are so bothered either way. Literally just shrugged my shoulders when I heard the news.
Do managers contracts really mean anything in the grand scheme of things?
Do managers contracts really mean anything in the grand scheme of things?
Brilliant news.
How there are reds who aren’t desperate for him to succeed here is beyond me.
Now he’s got his number 1 target from the day he joined and I can’t wait to see his team take shape.
How there are reds who aren’t desperate for him to succeed here is beyond me.
Now he’s got his number 1 target from the day he joined and I can’t wait to see his team take shape.
I’m not saying he shouldn’t be sacked if he eventually deserves it, but he deserves to know the club are backing him. This is evidence of that.
Now needs to prove that the board backing him is the right move by winning trophies now. He has been backed in the transfer market so needs to kick on. Top 4 only is not a trophy and wont be good enough for the fans from now on.
They have no answer to this, they NEVER have an answer to this.
Its just the childish ‘sack him anyway’ blah blah without a single suggestion about who will leapfrog the two best managers on planet Earth.
Until that manager becomes available you stick with continuous improvement.
Not one fan would predict us to win the league this season or even come close . I wonder how many years in his reign would it be fair to expect a shot at the league or the champions league. The whole finished second thing is hardly a major achievement considering we finished with 73 points which in most seasons would barely get you top 4
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