izec
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Hopefully only for one year. Win a trophy or get the sack
That’s pretty much it , if he had a contract till 2023 then he wouldn’t have got an extensionAnd going into this season on the last year of his contract, every game there'd be journos asking questions about it and it'd be a distraction both on and off the pitch which the club doesn't need.
His previous managerial roles meant at least I had no expectations of him when he came in. After all, he was initially appointed as caretaker. But his performances and progress with the team rightfully earned him the position of manager and now a contract extension.Pretty much how I feel.
All of this “he deserved an extension” talk is crazy to me. When he came in what were your expectations of him and what did he exceed?
No elite team wants him, he would have just as easily renewed next summer.
Came to write the same.Rewarding mediocrity is in the club's DNA.
You can’t judge Ole on the job he’s doing. It’s what he did at Cardiff that’s important.His previous managerial roles meant at least I had no expectations of him when he came in. After all, he was initially appointed as caretaker. But his performances and progress with the team rightfully earned him the position of manager and now a contract extension.
I just don't see what this "no elite club wants him" has anything to do with it. He has made fantastic progress from where we were to where we are now, hence he has deserved this extension.
Fair enough then you make a valid point. I think ole is our best option at this moment in time because I think he has momentum, he knows the club, is good at managing the media etc.Progress. He took a team that finished 2nd 6 months before and took us to 2nd 3 years later while winning feck all during that time and playing Jose-esque football. I am not saying he is doing terrible but the progress on the pitch is so minimal that it's pointless to even discuss it. Off the pitch he is great, I am not arguing. None of Real, Barca, Chelsea, City, Juve etc. would reward their manager with 3+1 year contract after those 3 years of "progress".
We finished above 2 of those last year, so they can be as happy as they like.City, Liverpool and Chelsea fans are the most delighted with this news...
United won't be a threat for the next few years so can safely rule us out for winning trophies
I am convinced you don't watch us play. Jose-esque?Progress. He took a team that finished 2nd 6 months before and took us to 2nd 3 years later while winning feck all during that time and playing Jose-esque football. I am not saying he is doing terrible but the progress on the pitch is so minimal that it's pointless to even discuss it. Off the pitch he is great, I am not arguing. None of Real, Barca, Chelsea, City, Juve etc. would reward their manager with 3+1 year contract after those 3 years of "progress".
They of course won't openly admit it but most rival fans will begrudgingly admit United are a force to be reckoned with. They certainly wouldn't be seeing us as a walkover, that's for sure.Literally go on every single social media platform. They are literally pissing themselves laughing whilst we spend hundreds of millions and are still watching our biggest rivals clean up all the trophies.
Nobody fears us and why would they? We can't even win second-rate trophies when we have the chance to do so
Nah that's the problem I think our owners are content with champions league qualification, hence the extensionHonestly it’s neither here nor there, if he doesn’t win anything next season he’ll be gone. If he wins something then that’s great and there’s no problems.
Should have been sacked he’s done a good job. Would have done an exceptional job had he won a trophy or two but he’s exceeded every level headed fans ambitions. This season will rightly be a big one and it’s one in which he should be judged more harshly if we fall short as we now have the squad to really compete.It is but we were lucky to have people like SAF or Busby who were truly one of football greats ever. The contract extension was inevitable. Ole should have either be sacked (and he really should have been if we look at the results during his reign here) or a contract extended. The latter is obviously more convenient for the club so no surprise we went that route. We are not winning anything with him but I think we can all agree that winning trophies is not our priorities anymore so I guess it's all good, we can celebrate this day.
Funny enough, yes, too shit for other positions that require more technical qualities.Have you ever played at CB?
Given two people watch/follow the progress and facts equally, having played a fecking pub game can't possibly make one of them more qualified. It's just a "I am very badass" attitude.I'm glad that I made you laugh.
It's just comforting to know what type of people you are discussing with.
I genuinely think it's important to know whether the person I am talking to has ever played the game before or is just one of those who watches it.
Thats got nothing to do with Liverpool playing with no defenders for a whole season and Chelsea sacking their manager. No. Watch Ole have us finish below them this season and give your head a wobble.We literally finished above Chelsea for two seasons in a row and Liverpool last season. Give your head a wobble. Call yourself a fan
Which manager should we hire to win the league with this squad then? What manager finishes above second last year? Or 3rd the year before?Thats got nothing to do with Liverpool playing with no defenders for a whole season and Chelsea sacking their manager. No. Watch Ole have us finish below them this season and give your head a wobble.
That’s what oppo fans do most when they think we’re on the rise again. Watch their reaction to Sancho signing, Varane if he signs, they will play it down and try to laugh it off. It’s a narrative that bedded in under previous managers not Ole.Literally go on every single social media platform. They are literally pissing themselves laughing whilst we spend hundreds of millions and are still watching our biggest rivals clean up all the trophies.
Nobody fears us and why would they? We can't even win second-rate trophies when we have the chance to do so
You make it sound like he took over Everton. But you are right, most of fans had 0 ambitions when Ole was appointed full time. We all knew that trophies is way beyond his reach and it's not gonna change this year, or the next year.Should have been sacked he’s done a good job. Would have done an exceptional job had he won a trophy or two but he’s exceeded every level headed fans ambitions. This season will rightly be a big one and it’s one in which he should be judged more harshly if we fall short as we now have the squad to really compete.
He already has a full season under his belt. He's being backed and all his prime targets are being bought. There's literally no interest in his services from any decent club, so why the hurry? Why can't we wait like, for October or Christmas to see if he deserves an extension? Why are we renewing him after he fumbled a chance at winning a European trophy versus a much much worse Villareal squad?Don’t you think he deserves some job security himself after what he’s done? Also, players like Varane and Sancho would probably want some assurances that the manager who’s been chasing them for months is going to be sticking around.
Thank you for proving my point. This is new Utd under Ole, content with making CL places every year while being near men when it comes to silverware.Reaching 4 semi-finals, Europa league final and finishing 3rd/2nd in his first full seasons. Bringing in exciting, quality players which have improved the first team whilst developing the likes of Shaw into one of the best in his position. But because he hasn't won a trophy yet, this is mediocrity to you?
Ole has spent 350mil.Literally go on every single social media platform. They are literally pissing themselves laughing whilst we spend hundreds of millions and are still watching our biggest rivals clean up all the trophies.
Nobody fears us and why would they? We can't even win second-rate trophies when we have the chance to do so
We’ll time will tell, if we finish 3rd or 4th with no trophies serious questions will be asked.Nah that's the problem I think our owners are content with champions league qualification, hence the extension
I’m not saying he shouldn’t be sacked if he eventually deserves it, but he deserves to know the club are backing him. This is evidence of that.No, I'd say in this business almost no one really deserves security for longer than the current season.
They have no answer to this, they NEVER have an answer to this.Which manager should we hire to win the league with this squad then? What manager finishes above second last year? Or 3rd the year before?