A lot of people are looking who we will buy etc and I think our futures very heavily invested in the kids. The problem people don't see is sometimes if you buy someone, you might deny someone better an opportunity. I don't think we've any worries with this lad. Fingers crossed
Paul Pogba
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Watch out... people here will think you are a Glazer apologist!
But i do agree with you. I don't understand what happen to the idea that United always gives youth a chance and yet, in the very same breath, some people want us to buy establish super stars.
I have massive hopes for Pogba and W.Keane. Our spine for the next generation.
Watch out... people here will think you are a Glazer apologist!
But i do agree with you. I don't understand what happen to the idea that United always gives youth a chance and yet, in the very same breath, some people want us to buy establish super stars.
I have massive hopes for Pogba and W.Keane. Our spine for the next generation.
definately notBut we have to be realistic. Moneys distorted everything and there's a lot of assholes out there that don't care but we do have talent in the youth and that's ours and we don't have to fight for it etc. I think it's a very promising group in key areas too and in numbers. I think that's our future baring signings here and there
During the past five years how many youth players have we signed? And how many of them have walked into the first team, leave alone left us raving? Only Kiko, and that too, just one match.
Buying only youth/unproven talent is not very prudent. We need a mix of youth and stars.
Buying only youth/unproven talent is not very prudent. We need a mix of youth and stars.
You can't think about it like that. Five years ago for example there were less question marks. Players like Giggs, Scholes etc were five years younger. We will always buy but we're not dumb enough to ignore who we already have and when they're ready, they'll get their chance. Promoting youth is a big part of the club and yes we can spend money - but we have to be realistic for now unless something gets done about the mega rich business people
We shouldn't face stiff competition from chelsea or city but we do because of the money they have. It's getting harder but there are benefits to bringing through the youth and it might take a year and it might take two but the wages are less and the quality is there - experience, strength will come and it will be players certainly with mental strength who will be given opportunities on top of ability.
Looking at the youth, I think most people that follow it are pretty optimistic with who we have coming through. Why not? I imagine someone like Cleverly has bags of confidence and at 21 if your lucky you could be talking about a player who will be loyal (we assume), who wants to play for United, who is progressing and I know it's arrogent but I think from midfield/forward Cleverly/Morrison/Tunnicliffe and William Keane will be future England Internationals.
IF they develop as they should. People should be excited by the potential and hope that they listen to the right people
Five years is quite a long time for player development. If a player cannot reach his potential in five years, he is no good.
So if a players 18 and rooneys now 24 - he's reached his potential? I don't think so. I think we're only now seeing the player he can become - last season. Now is that because he's up top or because Ronaldos gone or because he's matured? Maybe all three.....
But if we have experience now, we shouldn't be afraid to let any kid benefit from their experience because when they are gone they're gone. When you talk about any kids you'll often find if someone says something extreme people will tend to go the opposite way to counter it but people have already forgotten about Tom Cleverly for example.
I'd like us to get cole - I think he can offer something but I think Tom could too and so if we don't go for cole, I don't think anyone of us can be disappointed if the kid gets given his chance. He might just take it
Ask anyone. If we got cole and he did brilliant or if we played cleverly and he looked the part - what scenario would they prefer? But if you sign a top play for xxx million - who complains? Just life
Fair enough. I think a bit different. But that does not mean I am not amenable to think otherwise under different circumstances. I dont advocate a total reliance on stars. I prefer a mix. We should buy stars also, if we got to win trophies.
See the other thread in this forum. Dont you think we could have done better?
"Young quintet to depart".
See the other thread in this forum. Dont you think we could have done better?
"Young quintet to depart".
I think we have done better over recent years bringing in better quality/stronger youth players. You can sign a prospect and he can look the business but the next season you might sign someone even better. It's just how it is. None of the players let go, really bother me as though they were decent/good young talents - we've better talents and in numbers too. So you hope the depth is that big - that it would be a crime for atleast 4/5 not to make it at some point
That Morrison for example. I had no idea he was a midfielder and i've seen him and if we can channel him correctly - he has the potential (only potential) to a future England star. I hope, I really hope he matures because his potential is far greater then certain players
Rafael, yes. His twin. He is so invisible, I forget his name. He is more of a sicknote. Ah. Yes. Fabio.
Young players sometimes have health issues as their bodies continue to develop. I would not write either of them off yet.Rafael, yes. His twin. He is so invisible, I forget his name. He is more of a sicknote. Ah. Yes. Fabio.
God dammit. He really was progressing well.
Thats horrible for the lad - hopefully he will be back earlier
hope he's on the pitch in early '11, he consistently amazes me with his performances.
That sucks if he is hurt, he really has the looks of THE NEXT BIG THING
Shame, he was looking quite good. Hope he recovers well.
Hope he can get back to the same level and better post injury.
It's probably until 2011 though, a 16 month knee injury? Who is this guy?\
Owen Hargreaves
Owen Hargreaves
It's got to be a torn ligament.Ouch
feck sake, was hoping to get a glimps of him in the Carling Cup this year
Oh feck this for a game of soldiers, why do we have such horrible luck with injuries?
4-16 months
that makes no sense...
obviously it's a blow but it's almost a part of a young footballers education. We just have to let him get fit and continue with his development. So it's good to have perspective. As you say if we're lucky he might be back in the new year or shortly after. Cross fingers
4-16 months? Nice to know medical science has advanced to such levels of accuracy.
I blame the French U17 manager Manager. He played Pogba against England when he was clearly injured. He had a heavy strapping on his knee during that match, looked like he was struggling just jogging at times and still managed to look their best player and score.
Reportedly only a few weeks away from playing again.
It took Scholes about five years to make his name a regular in the starting XI.
Great news, was really impressed by his first season. Hoping for big things from young Pogba
A serious knee injury you say? Quick...give him Hargo's number, he'll know what to tell the lad...
oh, wait. nevermind.
oh, wait. nevermind.
That was quick... Did he visit Benny Hinn or something!!
Great news. So much for a 4-16 months prognosis.
T'is brilliant news, I really like this guy. I watched him for France U17 during the summer (euro's I think). A lot of people were talking about Josh McEachran (don't get me wrong, extremely talented player) as being the stand out player but I thought Pogba showed that extra edge to his game (where are my Red Tinted specs!) Extremely impressed.
What's this? Good news regarding a utd player's injury status, surely not. We're so thin on the ground in his position he could get a couple of games in the league cup if he really works at it.
Even better news:
Steve Bartram (stevebartram1) on Twitter
Hearing that Paul Pogba will make his return from injury against City today. Excellent news.
Steve Bartram (stevebartram1) on Twitter
Hearing that Paul Pogba will make his return from injury against City today. Excellent news.
Sweet. He really impressed me last season, looking forward to seeing him back in action
Already?? That's great!
Is Pogba a defensive, attacking or box to box midfielder?
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