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Brilliant from Pep for being the be the first manager to realize that doping was the key to success in Football. He is truly innovative.
Starting to remind me of RAWK and Real Madrid Paranoia when pep was embarrassing them regularly.This is embarrassing guys. City has broken us.
Yes, the greatest invator in football, George Ramsey, Herbert Chapman, Bill Shankly, Matt Busby have nothing on this guy.Brilliant from Pep for being the be the first manager to realize that doping was the key to success in Football. He is truly innovative.
Except we weren't fined for doping. We were fined for a player's address not being updated. That was literally it.Well considering City only got fined in September for doping that will be why it's appearing this season. So there's the answer your looking for Columbo
Not quite literally it really, here is some interesting reading for you!Except we weren't fined for doping. We were fined for a player's address not being updated. That was literally it.
The latter I think. He's on a campaign about player protection, it's natural that he'd play up injuries in the immediate aftermath of a match. People remember the player limping off or even getting carried off. They remember things like the image of the foot horribly out of alignment after a tackle.
He’s either got his doctors using questionable methods or he’s being a drama queen about his players injuries to get sympathy from referees.
That's certainly true and a lot of clubs and managers do encourage players to use those procedures. It's important to understand though that those treatments are not banned, and that football has an equivalent of the "therapeutic use" exemption to allow things like platelet injections.“Why do players always go abroad for treatment? Is it because they trust that physio or because other treatments are available that doctors in this country won’t do? Players would go to Spain and Germany and get all sorts of different injections like calf serum, animal products.”
Why don't you read the articles and the research behind it first? This isn't just pure speculation out of nowhere. Might turn out to be nothing and City may just be the best footballing side, but there is no smoke without fire, and this thread is to talk about that.So because City are outperforming the rest all their players are taking PEDs? Wouldn't anyone making that argument in SAF days be dubbed a bitter blue? The two clubs seem to have swapped places!
Would anyone have been making these claims had SAF been successful in persuading Pep to be his replacement at OT?
Do you think that, if the system could be played the way folks on here are implying, that Jose is the principled one who wouldn't allow it at OT?
Don't understand this either. What ever happened to the newbie forums? Do they even still exist?How are these people with 4 posts (a newly created City fan account) posting on the main forum ??
The rules in football are a joke especially in Spain IIRC they aren't testing anyone currently. @jojojo would know?I'm fairly ignorant about doping rules in football, but I do follow cycling closely. In cycling, there's a no-needle policy that prohibits the use of injections unless there's a clear medical need. Has there ever been a debate about something similar in football? I sometimes see stuff about players getting injections to play through minor injuries, is that still a widespread practice? Because that sort of thing would earn you an instant doping ban in cycling. There seems to be a lot less transparency about this in football compared to a sport like cycling, but perhaps that's just my ignorance on the subject.
This is still closer to what I said than what you said.Not quite literally it really, here is some interesting reading for you!
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/11/manchester-city-charged-anti-doping
The FA has a three-strikes-and-out policy and it is alleged City have fallen foul of this, having thrice failed to update schedules of players who have changed training times when they have, for example, moved to train with Pep Guardiola’s first-team squad. Once Manchester City enter a plea, an independent commission will sit and judge the case.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sp...reak-three-anti-doping-rules-five-months.html
Manchester City broke FA anti-doping rules three times in just five months - with the first breach shortly after Pep Guardiola started as the club's manager.
City were charged with breaking the FA's 'whereabouts' rules and hit with a £35,000 fine in February.
Written reasons, published this week, revealed one of the strikes related to an incorrect hotel address given in September for a player which Sportsmail understands to be £21m summer signing Ilkay Gundogan.
The other two strikes were failing to inform the FA of an extra training session on July 12 - days after Guardiola's charges came back from their summer break - and an occasion in December when anti-doping officials were unable to test reserve team players because six of them had been given the day off without the FA being informed.
City told the FA the two training-session breaches were 'administrative errors' related to the club's new management team being unfamiliar with the system.
The reason it is being mentioned is because when ever they report a serious injury they seem to be back in half the amount of time that 1) they initially reported and 2) earlier than that form of injury takes to recover.So because City are outperforming the rest all their players are taking PEDs? Wouldn't anyone making that argument in SAF days be dubbed a bitter blue? The two clubs seem to have swapped places!
Would anyone have been making these claims had SAF been successful in persuading Pep to be his replacement at OT?
Do you think that, if the system could be played the way folks on here are implying, that Jose is the principled one who wouldn't allow it at OT?
I didn't actually say anything other than "that's not quite it" and posted the links to the articles with a few extracts from them under the links. Think you are confusing me with someone else?This is still closer to what I said than what you said.
I am. Apologies.I didn't actually say anything other than "that's not quite it" and posted the links to the articles with a few extracts from them under the links. Think you are confusing me with someone else?
No problem. Being a City fan you might know the answer as to how it was discovered that the reserve team players had been given the day off? The Mail article suggests that the drug testers were unable to test them because they had been given the day off and they had not been informed. Does this then mean they turned up to test them and they were not there?I am. Apologies.
Apparently drugs make you stupid so..They report a serious injury and they are back immediately. That’s not a great way to hide it, is it? Nothing in it. Or they are stupid.
I'm not sure actually. I think it does mean that, though.No problem. Being a City fan you might know the answer as to how it was discovered that the reserve team players had been given the day off? The Mail article suggests that the drug testers were unable to test them because they had been given the day off and they had not been informed. Does this then mean they turned up to test them and they were not there?
So that would mean Dembele/Spurs also dope? In which case they'd have the same advantage as de Bruyne did in that game.100% convinced there's something going on. The Spurs game was the most telling. When their players were just sprinting for 90 minutes and ran a team renowned for running into the ground. It will come across as bitterness but I don't particularly give a f*ck - I seen De Bruyne in the Bundesliga and while he ran around a lot he was never sprinting 30 yards to push Mousa Dembele's to the floor time and again.
They're on something. Pep is dodgy as feck. Would be so much more satisfying if I wasn't convinced the likes of Valencia and Ibrahimovic are also at it as well as just about every other top level player. Too much money involved and too little effort to do something about it. Pretty much anyone who's anyone in the doping world knows it's rife in football.
If City were going to 'dope' injured players, why would we publicly announce an exaggerated injury duration? That makes no sense.Sane on the bench tonight. Meant to be out for 7 weeks, out for only 2.
Hmmm....
No.So that would mean Dembele/Spurs also dope? In which case they'd have the same advantage as de Bruyne did in that game.
Basically yes. The question of how much notice the club had (it should be zero) always comes up in these situations. Assuming it was zero then it's two unusual events - the paperwork error + the test visit - happening at the same time and an unlucky coincidence.No problem. Being a City fan you might know the answer as to how it was discovered that the reserve team players had been given the day off? The Mail article suggests that the drug testers were unable to test them because they had been given the day off and they had not been informed. Does this then mean they turned up to test them and they were not there?
I always thought the 'play through the pain' injections would just be local anisthetic like you get when you need stitches or whatever. Just to numb the pain. Just an assumption though. Hardly PED if its tha case with that one.I'm fairly ignorant about doping rules in football, but I do follow cycling closely. In cycling, there's a no-needle policy that prohibits the use of injections unless there's a clear medical need. Has there ever been a debate about something similar in football? I sometimes see stuff about players getting injections to play through minor injuries, is that still a widespread practice? Because that sort of thing would earn you an instant doping ban in cycling. There seems to be a lot less transparency about this in football compared to a sport like cycling, but perhaps that's just my ignorance on the subject.
So all top players dope bar those who play for Spurs?
Local anaesthetics, and anti-inflammatories before training/games. Muscle relaxants and platelet enriched ("spun") blood amongst other things during injury treatment. I don't know if it's still being done but historically vitamins and other supplements have been given to footballers as injections.I always thought the 'play through the pain' injections would just be local anisthetic like you get when you need stitches or whatever. Just to numb the pain. Just an assumption though. Hardly PED if its tha case with that one.
No.So all top players dope bar those who play for Spurs?
Knowing us we'd probably end up bottling it anyway and finishing 3rd.I'd bloody love of they got caught and were docked heavoly , handing us the tittle.