All the dog talk.
Pep Guardiola: "Raiola offered me Mkhitaryan and Pogba two months ago.
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Because he wasn't offered Lukaku... its not rocket science buddy.
Doesn't make sense. If Pogba wanted to play with a certain card why didn't he just used Madrid who were having a very poor season at this time and will be looking for a rebuild, instead tell Raiola to offer him to City who are having a machine in midfield and walking the league. No one in the club would believe this. It's very lame.
There's long-standing bad blood between raiola and pep with zlatan having a piss poor time of it at Barcelona after claiming it was his dream club. That's like the first time I've seen zlatan act humble.
Zlatan is raiolas biggest client so naturally there must have been a lot going on back and forth.
Pep usually doesn't drag these out and give them credence but the midweek loss to Liverpool must surely have ruffled feathers and bruised egos making him a lot more vulnerable.
Edit: I don't think raiola would have offered any of his clients to Pep after the zlatan experience.
Zlatan is raiolas biggest client so naturally there must have been a lot going on back and forth.
Pep usually doesn't drag these out and give them credence but the midweek loss to Liverpool must surely have ruffled feathers and bruised egos making him a lot more vulnerable.
Edit: I don't think raiola would have offered any of his clients to Pep after the zlatan experience.
Explain brave mind games to me?
"Mind games" are talking shit. End of.
There is no subtle mastery to it, despite what some people think.
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I can see Pogba now really trying to score a goal in the derby to do the "say what?" celebration.
So there are 2 issues here: Pogba and animal welfare
BBC / Simon Stone:
Guardiola said the pair's agent, Mino Raiola, contacted him and told him the midfielders were available.
Pogba, who joined United for a then record £89m in 2016, stayed at Old Trafford but Mkhitaryan joined Arsenal.
Raiola told BBC Sport he did not speak to Guardiola but did not deny telling City of the players' availability.
United said they would not have sold Pogba to City.
Guardiola said the pair's agent, Mino Raiola, contacted him and told him the midfielders were available.
Pogba, who joined United for a then record £89m in 2016, stayed at Old Trafford but Mkhitaryan joined Arsenal.
Raiola told BBC Sport he did not speak to Guardiola but did not deny telling City of the players' availability.
United said they would not have sold Pogba to City.
Respect
Raiola called Pep a dog recently.
Meh..
If we sold pogba to city it'll be for a record breaking deal.
We are not selling pogba, our best player and poster boy.
Cheap shot from pep, i doubt it's true. Raiola is a greedy fat cnut but he's not stupid. This could backfire as it's a breach of gentlement agreement between agent and manager, this is off the record stuff even if it's true.
If we sold pogba to city it'll be for a record breaking deal.
We are not selling pogba, our best player and poster boy.
Cheap shot from pep, i doubt it's true. Raiola is a greedy fat cnut but he's not stupid. This could backfire as it's a breach of gentlement agreement between agent and manager, this is off the record stuff even if it's true.
Daft to suggest that Pep doesn't care about this game. He wants to win every game, especially against Mourinho, especially against United at home when they can win the title that day.
Aaah ok...just catching up on the rest of this thread now
It goes both ways. Best way to go at agent is saying he has offered his players to the rivals and it can't be proven anyways. I don't think anyone is dumb to offer ManUtd player with so big contract to city.
I actually don't think this is Pep trying to get one over Jose or Man Utd.
I think he's trying to create a situation for Raiola and we are just collateral damage.
I think he's trying to create a situation for Raiola and we are just collateral damage.
Its all about money, Pogba is not top dog anymore, Alexis is. Raiola did not like that and wanted new terms. So the dirty tricks started since January, bad performances, pretend injuries, etc etc. Jose obviously not gonna take it, he know all the tricks in the book.
Guardiola looks like a complete loony in that press conference. This might actually damage City when it comes to dealing with agents, he's just put out the dirty laundry of Riola. Who's to say he won't do it to another agent that he doesn't like?
Can people just stop the mind games comment? The derby tomorrow means feck all. Raiola has been insulting him for some time and he has made these comments in reply to them. It'll make United angry at Raiola for shit-stirring.
Just popping in to say that Pep is a prick.
Enjoy the title and stop whinging.
Enjoy the title and stop whinging.
If Guardiola had a proper couple of tough months even weeks at a club, he'd have a meltdown bitching about everything. He was close last season when City lost a couple on the bounce before Christmas 2016.
He's a great coach but a really weak, sorry excuse of a man.
He's a great coach but a really weak, sorry excuse of a man.
Why would he make this up? Does he need to start a war in the press room with Jose because he's so far behind in the league? There is zero reason for Pep to want to lie and cause a potential media war with Jose and Raiola, it does him far more harm than good.. we all know what happened last time himself and Jose went at it in the press room. Why risk it?
Does it increase our chances of winning at the weekend? Does it feck, we're massive favourites regardless. To lie and make this up is putting himself under un-needed pressure and against the wrath of Jose (when they have been really civil to each other since arriving in Manchester) for nothing.
You don't play mindgames with Jose when your 16 points ahead of him, the last thing you want to do is fire him or his club up for no reason.
Or Pep is a cnut who is trying to unsettle a key player of ours. Is not hard to think out of the box buddy.
Where did I say he doesnt care about the game?
I don't think it is 'mind games' with Mourinho, but diverting attention from the disaster midweek.
Makes me want Raiola to get better clients so there's no chance of them going to City.
Unsettle him to what end?
Saying this a day before the game is pretty low.
Exactly
They have the title in the bag, a far more important game after the one they play against us but hey, he did it for the mind games.
Raiola told BBC Sport he did not speak to Guardiola but did not deny telling City of the players' availability
Interesting line that one.
Interesting line that one.
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He mentioned it in the conference for the derby
He could have worded things very differently, and many respectable news outlets would be willing to hear his side of the story since Riola has been insulting him for a while.
Depending on the timing of this conference, it could also be a response to Mourinho who implied that we beat City to Sanchez.
So basically Raiola confirms that he did offer the players.
Pep is always talking about other clubs player. This was really cheap shot. I hope that jose will react on this
Oh come come, there is no way Jose wouldn't use what he could. I don't have a problem with Pep saying this. I have a problem with Raiola however.
How would he know what Sanchez was going to get if this was an offer of Pogba/Mhiki and Mhiki was part of the Sanchez deal?
Don't you find the timing great? Is pretty clear we are going to rely on Pogba to drive us forward or pick passes from deep.
So, City leaking such news in an attempt to hopefully disrupt Mourinho's selection considering Mou had one whole week to prepare.
Pep has been moaning about how little rest they had. Could see this as another attempt to gain some sort of advantage.
That's what I understood. He's basically saying he offered the players to City not to Pep and he didn't talk to the latter.
Lukaku is not dangerous as Pogba is. City sees Pogba as more dangerous players because of his creativity in counter-attacking, once City misplaced pass in the final third and we caught them off guard, Pogba is only one capable of starting counter-attacking with his pass. Obvious, he is trying to unsettle Pogba, that's really low. Not cool.
Given the private message you've just sent me, I'd say your opinion of a persons character doesn't matter to me.
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Raiola confirms he hawked Pogba to City. Shocking behaviour.
Very immature from Poop Flopiola.