AltiUn
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£88.5m Mudryk - £85m Antony.Than Antony? Nah, not even close.
£88.5m Mudryk - £85m Antony.Than Antony? Nah, not even close.
What about them?And what about the wages ?
Yep. it’s an interesting deflection from @duffer as he’s accepted Antony is the better player and Mudryk is garbage. Going to the value, and getting it wrong, to try and prove some kind of point is most strangeMudryk cost more so he doesn't even have that going for him.
"Chelsea will pay €70m (£62m) up front and €30m (£26.5m) in add-ons, which include winning the Champions League, Premier League and other individual performance-related conditions."£88.5m Mudryk - £85m Antony.
Don’t they add up to the equation ?What about them?
Leaves a sour taste in the mouth, doesn’t itYou watched the game? Same narrative. Chelsea messed up by not signing a top striker.
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I believe a team of kids won't see there true potential until later on. Still don't understand chelsea project of investing so much in kids. We saw how our experience players won us the game yesterday. Chelsea is lacking that at the moment.
He? I don't think Pochettino wanted to spend £200m on defensive midfielder.He spent 200m alone on three defensive midfielders this summer. Either way he will come under fire. Not entirely on him as most of those youngsters are overrated crap like Mydruk, but still he has to do better with what he’s got even if he’s dealt with a bad hand.
Come December and they will probably be in relegation zone.
But it also means they are playing well and creating chances. As you mentioned, they are just lacking someone that is good at finishing. I prefer the team I support have good underlying stats, because it means the gameplan is working. Just that the quality isn't there.Thats why I hate it when stats hipsters talk about the "underlying numbers" and make it seem like xG is the main statistic and a measure of the better team. Finishing is a skill and if a team is bad at finishing, they'll underperform their xG. That's not bad luck. Chelsea lack somemone good at finishing therefore they underperform their xG.
I don't think it's fair to judge him on this. Chelsea are a mess. Tuchel and Potter both struggled under Boehly.
Thats why I hate it when stats hipsters talk about the "underlying numbers" and make it seem like xG is the main statistic and a measure of the better team. Finishing is a skill and if a team is bad at finishing, they'll underperform their xG. That's not bad luck. Chelsea lack somemone good at finishing therefore they underperform their xG.You watched the game? Same narrative. Chelsea messed up by not signing a top striker.
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I don't think it's fair to judge him on this. Chelsea are a mess. Tuchel and Potter both struggled under Boehly.I'm coming around to the opinion, that he just isn't an elite level manager.
Would have been excited at one stage for him to have been given the reins here, looking like it's a bullet dodged.
If you want to compare them for both players to add in to the equation.Don’t they add up to the equation ?
He’s on almost decade worth of contract for someone that didn’t score much goals in the Ukrainian league either
For some reason, if a club spends money, some people assume the manager spent it with his own debit card or something.He? I don't think Pochettino wanted to spend £200m on defensive midfielder.
Yeah, and this.I posted an article where he was waffling on about lemons on here a few years ago. He's a lunatic. I wouldn't want him anywhere near United. He'd be ripped apart in the press for this type of nonsense if he was United manager.
From his autiobiography Brave New World. Athletic link."Universal energy is something that I have been able to see since I was a child. It's a gift, one that is rare and one that is given only to those who can withstand it. Everything has energy. People, places, things, even moments. To control this energy is impossible, but you can shape it, move it, play with it and the key is to use crystals and, more powerfully, the solstice."
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One of the owners. They're in the changing rooms after pretty much every game.Who?
Difference is Antony seems playable and most likely won’t sit on his contract compared to Mudryk who most likely will be loaned out 5-6 times during that time, whilst you cover those wages.If you want to compare them for both players to add in to the equation.
Mudryk is on £100K a week over an 8 1/2 year contract. Antony is on £200K a week on a 5 year contract (with an option for a 6th year). So if they both never play again, sit our their contracts and leave on frees then Antony is costing a lot more.
Both wages taken from Spotrac for consistency.
One of them might be number of performances, but Mudryk is not likely to trigger enough of them to get up to the same fee as we paid for Antony. Still, I'd saý they are in the same category of transfer fee. When you get to that €70-100m range, you expect to get someone that will be a quality starter fairly quick. Neither Antony or Mudryk is that, but Antony has certainly shown more."Chelsea will pay €70m (£62m) up front and €30m (£26.5m) in add-ons, which include winning the Champions League, Premier League and other individual performance-related conditions."
https://www.skysports.com/football/...or-arsenal-target-and-shakhtar-donetsk-winger
I don't think any of those addons relate to "score no goals" or "finish 12th" somehow!
If we win the Champs League or Premier League then fair enough.
This. It’s hilarious the excuses that are being made for them. Mainly by one individual right enough who claims to be a Utd fan as well.Amazing Ten Hag finished 3rd and won a trophy (lost a final too) with no recognised CF bar Weghorst.
Can’t Chelsea cope given they’ve spent a billion quid plus?
They'll both be at different clubs next season to be fair.Difference is Antony seems playable and most likely won’t sit on his contract compared to Mudryk who most likely will be loaned out 5-6 times during that time, whilst you cover those wages.
He's trolling you, you do realise that don't you?This. It’s hilarious the excuses that are being made for them. Mainly by one individual right enough who claims to be a Utd fan as well.
After every bad result... Which tbf makes your statement correct.One of the owners. They're in the changing rooms after pretty much every game.
Boehly's partner in crime.Who?
To be fair, Chelsea would kill for a player like Rashford.Amazing Ten Hag finished 3rd and won a trophy (lost a final too) with no recognised CF bar Weghorst.
Can’t Chelsea cope given they’ve spent a billion quid plus?
I realised that ages ago but it’s carried on that long now it’s just sad. A very strange individual.He's trolling you, you do realise that don't you?
So long as people keep biting, he'll keep fishing.I realised that long ago but it’s carried on that long now it’s just sad. A very strange individual.
Mudryk possibly on loan but doubt anyone is buying him on his 10 year contractThey'll both be at different clubs next season to be fair.
He's been doing it for 9 years, long before anybody else would have had any strong opinions either way on Poch to be wound up by it:So long as people keep biting, he'll keep fishing.
I would love it if mauricio pochettino will be consider for the United job if Moyes does not improve our team performances. He was my personal choice to take over since last summer when Ferguaon retired. Moreover, I will have the upmost confident for United's future, if he was the one doing the rebuilding and imbueing a new philosophy at United.
Could not find a thread on this guy. Anyway, what does the future hold for this guy? He has Southampton playing some enticing football and he is doing it with some English players :0. Going forward, it will be interesting to see if he can show some consistency and stability in his managing career. Maybe add some cup wins to his cv aswell to furthur his acclamation from his peers.
Mauricio Pochettino is a smart manager probably one of the best upcoming manager in football.
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I'm unsure. I think he's just a whack job tbh.He's trolling you, you do realise that don't you?
probably looking for the twat who stole all the g&t garnish from the hospitality suite.One of the owners. They're in the changing rooms after pretty much every game.
This is you when Chelsea signed him.He? I don't think Pochettino wanted to spend £200m on defensive midfielder.
Their business has been fantastic because they are getting the players Pochettino want (only recently) and these players are wanting to play for Pochettino. I mean who turns down klopp and european league football for Chelsea? Pochettino is a factor and many of their players are singing his praises alread6. Chelsea are building a squad around a style that was so successful for Pochettino at spurs and Southampton. Look at us, we are getting the players ETH wanted and it isn't going to well at the moment. However things could change.
will finally be able to see the godfather of the press. Pochettino press. Hasn’t seen it since his early days at spurs. Caicedo was the missing piece as I stated before. With caicedo and Lavia chelsea will be able build from the back much better and allow more progressive pass from the back. Gallagher isnt that player and now they have fixed that. All that is left to fix is their attack and goalkeeper.
god thats humiliating.This is you when Chelsea signed him.